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Posted on Feb 14, 2017, 8:24 am
#561

Here's update on my dating life, since it seems like some of you are interested in it. Warning: Before I start, I should mention that a lot of this will sound like bragging, but I am only telling you it so you have an idea of what dating life is like after LL and what you can do to improve your own dating game. I'm not a dating guru, though. I just have a decade and a half of dating experience with a lot of trial and error. So I'm just telling you what worked for me. It might not work for you in your culture/country. If this wasn't an anonymous diary, I wouldn't even tell this story, because I hate bragging - especially when it comes to bragging about women for personal gain. This is all a true story, and I gain nothing by lying.

Today I took the prettiest/hottest girl I've ever met back to my bedroom and we made out like crazy. And this was only a day after meeting her for the first time. She says that it feels like she has known me forever. She's a mixed race and has the most gorgeous blue eyes. I met her online.

A day before that, I was on a date with another girl, who was a 5'10" model who won one of those international beauty contests. Yes, she was taller than me by at least an inch. I didn't plan on meeting her this week, but she messaged me that morning to ask me out on a date and I said, sure why not. She was really into me, not because of my looks or height, but because she liked how intelligent I was. And tomorrow I had to cancel my second date with a hot 5'9" college girl, because I am seeing that mixed, blue-eyed girl for Valentine's Day and don't want to date anyone else at this point.

Yesterday, I wasn't so sure if that hottest girl was into me or not. She is way way out of my league. I'm like a 7 in terms of looks for my face, and like a 5 or 6 for my body right now. And she was absolutely perfect. On both dates I've gone out with her, random girls like waitresses or just girls on the street would comment on how pretty she looked. She dresses like a fashion model - which is important to girls, so dress well!!! Seriously, you guys want to dress better, because dressing well makes you look more attractive without having to go to the gym more or getting surgery. It's very effective.

So today was a great day because she couldn't keep her hands off me after I took her back to the bedroom. I honestly would never have thought in my lifetime that I'd be dating someone like her. You know how you have these fantasies about dating really hot celebrities, but in the back of your mind, you know it will never happen because they're out of your league? Well, she was hotter than a lot of the celebs who appear on Maxim magazine, and I absolutely thought someone like her was just a fantasy and that only 6'0" male models would be able to date her. If you saw us two standing next to each other, you'd never think that I was dating her. In fact, people on the street kept walking between us, because they thought that I wasn't dating her. A woman on the bus even gave me this look as though I was a stalker, because I kept following her around closely. Every guy AND girl was checking her out. It was funny to watch almost every guy look up and down her as she walked by. But on top of this, she's very humble, and caring, and intelligent! So as you can imagine, I've fallen for this girl. BUT, I still don't treat her like she's all that, because I never want to her to realize that she could do so much better than me haha. And that's just part of the dating game, because you never want to look insecure to the girl. That's unattractive. You have to appear like you're doing her a favor by dating her, even though you sure as hell know that she could do better.

And this makes me a bit more conflicted with not recommending this surgery, because she's... 5'7". She probably wouldn't have dated me at my previous height. So... sigh. I hate to say it, but I actually do recommend this surgery for your dating life if it means going above the 5'7" height. It's not necessary. But it helps. For example, it's not necessary to be rich to get a date, but it helps. I'm sorry for flip-flopping again. But now you should understand why. Without the LL surgery, my gf wouldn't have left me, and I wouldn't have dated this girl - who is, so far, much better than my ex. But I only recommend it if you are already successful with women. It will not turn you from a loser to a Casanova. If you want to know how I get girls so effortlessly, read more below.

Quote from: EndGame on February 12, 2017, 05:46:50 PMYou mentioned the gap in bone is still barely progressing. In the past when you mentioned that issue you seemed to be concerned that a bone graft would be needed. Did Paley tell you it won't be needed after your last x-ray? Hope so.

You always seem very insightful and wise in a way to me in your diary. I'd love to get any thoughts on this stuff you wouldn't mind sharing.

Paley said I don't need a bone graft, because there's still growth, but just very very slow growth. He suggested that I remove the lower screws on the rods so that I would put pressure on the gap, and hopefully that would stimulate growth. I said that I'd just wait it out. I don't want to risk breaking my legs again - especially after hearing about what happened to ProgramDude.

So here's my take on displaying success on dating profiles. You need to be humble about it and not like flat out say how much you make. Just hint at it with your pictures or your job description. And don't over do it! You only need to hint at it once. If you talk about it too much then it looks like all you can offer is your money. Instead, show that you're more than just money.

I have two dating profiles. One with no mention of wealth and one with. The difference between the two is just one sentence at the beginning that strongly hints that I'm very wealthy. The quality of girls vary a lot between the two profiles. It's much better to show success in dating profiles, because success really does attract women. People who aren't successful often tell me to not mention it in the profile because it attracts the "wrong type" of girls. And yes, there's a lot of "ghetto" girls who will message you when you display your wealth. And yes, I have been on at least one date with a gold digger. There were warning signs for it, but since she was really hot, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I ended up losing like $200 because of the massive amount of steaks and alcoholic drinks she kept ordering. But most aren't. Some even try to pay for the meals to subtly prove that they're not gold diggers, either to me or themselves.

So the way I view it is that displaying your wealth is like a girl displaying her cleavage in the profile pic. Yes, it makes a lot of horny creepy guys want to date her, but it'll also attract more guys in general. And among those guys will be at least someone worth going out with. It's all a numbers game, in my opinion. The wider the net you cast, the more bad fish you will catch. But you also will catch more good fish, too!

You just have to be able to tell the bad fish from the good ones. For example, to avoid gold diggers, I only date girls who are financially independent, meaning that they have jobs and their own place or have rich parents. If they're lazy, you can tell, and those will most likely become gold diggers. If you give them a list of restaurants to go to and they always pick the most expensive one even after you suggest a cheaper one, then they're most likely gold diggers. If they don't pay for anything or even attempt to pay for anything, then they're gold diggers. If they ask about your money and your wealth often, then they're most likely gold diggers. If they start taking a lot of selfies with your Buggati, then they're most likely Instagram/Snapchat picture whores. Those are most likely narcissists. Run away. You get the picture. Just filter out the bad ones, and then just go out with the good ones. I only date the top 1% of the girls who message me. There's a higher ratio for girls who I message first, because I chose them first, and it wasn't like a gold digger chose me first. If you do the choosing first, then it's less likely to be a gold digger because most girls aren't gold diggers. But if the girl messages you first, then most likely you shouldn't really date them. Also if they message you first, then they are either below your league, at your league, or above your league but have self-esteem issues. Either way is bad, because you want to date girls who are above your league. You only live once! Don't settle for less!

I think I'm more attractive during dates, because I know there are other attractive girls who want to date me, so I'm not like putting any of these girls on a pedestal. Instead, it seems like I'm not even that interested in them. But that doesn't mean that I'm boring on dates. I take girls to do all sorts of fun things that usually ends with taking them back to my place. Every hour or two hours, I take them to somewhere new and fun to explore. Preferably somewhere they haven't been before. Even though it's the environment that makes it fun, and not you, it makes them think of fun when they think of you. And you want girls to associate "fun" when they think of you. In almost every first date I've been on, the girl ends up in my bedroom by the end of the date. And no, I'm not sleeping with them on the first date. I'm very selective on who I sleep with. I might even question the quality of the girl if she would sleep with me on a first date.

So, showing some interest but not a lot of interest makes them want me even more. I think hot girls are just used to guys drooling over them. And it makes sense to me because I've been on the other side of this before. Once a hot girl is showing too much interest in me, it does make them seem less attractive to me, because it makes me wonder if I could do better. Think of it like buying a used car or house. If you show too much interest in it, then the seller would raise the prices because he will think that his car/house is worth more than he asked for because you've shown a lot of interest as though it's a bargain. But if you don't show that much interest in it, the seller might even lower his sale price to try to get you to buy the car/house. So if you play hard to get, the girl will chase you back - given that she had some interest in you in the first place. Playing hard to get also weeds out girls who are only iffy about you. They will stop responding to your texts, and it wouldn't matter to you, because you have other girls to date. So don't get hung over any girl, especially if they don't show interest. It's so much better for a girl to chase you than for you to chase her, even though in your mind, she's way above your league.

So I think being successful is attractive not because you have a lot of money. There are stories about girls who dump rich guys because they aren't self-made, but only inherited a lot of money. Girls are attracted to success because of the man it takes to become successful. I'm talking about being intelligent, hard working, ambitious, not lazy, and dedicated. All those traits are very attractive. Girls really dislike guys who are lazy. Being intelligent also turns on intelligent girls. But I'm not even books smart, since I don't read that much. I'm more like clever and logical. There's a difference, and it's more attractive be the latter. Anyone can be a nerd and be books smart. But you kind of have to be born with a high IQ to be clever and logical.

And then you have to do more than just be successful. So some of models I've dated have dated other rich guys before. And luckily, a lot of rich guys absolutely suck at dating - or at least the ones who are still single do. Here's where some of them suck at dating:

1) They feel entitled to sex if they pay for dinner and expensive gifts. Don't do that. Don't treat girls like prostitutes!
2) They are controlling because they aren't used to people saying no to them. Don't do that, girls need their space.
3) They treat wait staff poorly, because they think they're better than them because they have money. Don't do that. Treat everyone equally no matter how much they make.
4) They aren't generous, because some rich people are rich because they are greedy and horde money. Don't do that. Nobody wants to date a cheapo.

I could go on, but you have the idea.

Here's what you SHOULD do:
Do volunteer work. Travel. Be kind to people. Dress well. Learn to be funny - watch a lot of stand-up comedy, but don't attempt humor if you aren't that great at it because it will backfire if it looks like you're trying too hard. These are the things that attract girls, and it's why I stand out and attract the highest quality of girls. Most of these traits have nothing to do with being rich. You can appear that way even if you were poor. There are girls who are attracted to people who are at least trying to be successful. So you don't even need to be successful yet. Some girls even only date the ones who are trying to be successful instead of the ones who already are successful. They feel that the already successful ones wouldn't be loyal to them since they have so many options - which is true, like I said, I had commitment issues in the past.

Anyway. Good luck to all those who are still single. A decade ago, you'd probably have thought that I'd never get a girlfriend, not because I was short, but because how little I knew about how to attract girls. So there's hope for everyone. You just got to learn to be more attractive. And that doesn't mean that you have be physically attractive, as I mentioned in the paragraphs above.

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Posted on Feb 14, 2017, 11:04 pm
#562

You know DIFM, you experience is your experience. It is not a rule. If you read Iamready's diary, you would see that he now has more success with all women of all height (even getting hit on by women rather than chasing them). The added height does give you a boost (in self confidence but also without doubt a physical one) and this should not be neglected. Also, most people aren't super rich like you so they would have different experience regarding attraction. But I know many not rich guys who do very good with women and most of them are in the 174-180cm range

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Posted on Feb 14, 2017, 11:45 pm
#563

I think you missed what I wrote, but I said that being taller helped. I wouldn't be with this 5'7" girl if I wasn't 5'9". I have LL to thank for this. I'd say it improved my dating life by double, because it doubled the number of girls who want to date me. But the quality of the girls have gone up as well.

I want to add that girls chased me prior to LL as well. For example, the prettiest girl I know who has been facebook stalking me for 3 years liked me even before I did LL. But she didn't know my height. And yes, I think financial success is the major key here in terms of attraction - not because I have a lot of money, but because I display positive traits that a successful person has like hard working, determined, intelligent and ambitious, but I also display other traits in my dating profile that other successful people don't have like volunteer work, caring, and generosity. I think height is the major key in terms of rejection. That's the difference I was trying to make. And I want people to improve on their dating game first before they jump to LL, since there are major things you can do first to improve your dating life without LL. But once you've improved everything else and ran out of things, then LL would indeed improve your dating life. I don't have any doubts about it. But I also believe that it will only improve it significantly if it's the difference between being short and being average. I think the difference between being average and being tall is not as significant, because so far not one girl has rejected me based on height while I'm 5'9" - even though I went on dates with a 5'10" asian beauty pageant winner who still talks to me, and am talking with a 5'11" blonde blue-eyed Russian model who wrote on her profile that she only dates 6'+ guys.

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Posted on Feb 15, 2017, 3:40 pm
#564

I have to say, I think DIFM has the right attitude about this. While I'm not filthy rich the way he is, I am of above average success in my own right. I'm actually in the best shape of my life right now (5'8", 180lbs, lean, ripped, etc.). And I have always had 9/10 facial aesthetics (have been compared to the likes of Tom Cruise, Nick Bateman, John Stamos, etc.). So even at 5'5", I got attractive girls, but definitely got rejected because of my height a fair amount. And generally felt like I "didn't belong" in groups of guys because I was so short.

Honest to God...I really don't think men who are at least 5'7" need this surgery. If you are at least 5'7", as long as you're not butt ugly, you had a decent job and you stay in shape...you can definitely get girls. Yeah, 5'8" is better (but still borderline), you really need to be 5'9" and up to be 100% safe from the vast majority of women and their requirements...but 5'7" isn't bad at all. I think if I were 5'7" naturally, I wouldn't have gotten this surgery.

I still have that annoying (although it's been happening less) recurring pain in my right leg (which has healed completely), and my left leg is still slowly consolidating. I still have to get the rods removed, deal with more scarring, etc. And while I'm fine with my proportions for the most part (and not even women who have seen me nked have commented on them, except one girl who said "you have nice long muscular legs" lol), sometimes I get down when I sit next to a guy who is my new height naturally, and my sitting height is a bit shorter than his. I've learned to accept it because, well, I can't go back and be short again. I still think going from a bit over 5'5" to a solid 5'8" is worth the meh proportions I have to deal with (but that's MY issue).

Like DIFM said, none of us can ever be perfect, and I'm working towards accepting myself fully. I'll always wish I was given HGH as a kid, but there's no time machine, and I can't go back and change the past. So being 5'8" with less than perfect proportions will have to do (and again, no one has EVER commented on my post-LL proportions, this is all me and my inner insecurities about it).

I am with DIFM - if you are at least 5'7", you really don't need this surgery. Some of you guys who are already 5'10" and up who want this are crazy. But to each his own. We all deserve to be happy, right?

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Posted on Feb 15, 2017, 3:51 pm
#565

Quote from: YellowSpike on February 15, 2017, 03:40:45 PM
I am with DIFM - if you are at least 5'7", you really don't need this surgery. Some of you guys who are already 5'10" and up who want this are crazy. But to each his own. We all deserve to be happy, right?


A 5'7 guy in New Delhi vs a 5'7 guy in Amsterdam will likely have differing views on "needing" the surgery. It can be very subjective. As you'll know from my story, as a 5'9 model from LA in NYC, my circle of friends is quite a bit taller than average (5'10 female, 6'1 male).. so I certainly have a different perspective, but your point is understood.

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Posted on Feb 15, 2017, 6:42 pm
#566

There is no starting height in which you "need" it. Yeah, a guy who is 5'5 sure "suffers" more than a 5'7 guy in terms of physical attraction. But that's where it starts and ends. When guys here will start to admit that they are doing this in order to improve their physical image and also their "manliness", it will all be much more simple and have much more sense..

 Yellow did it for the exact same reason 6feet want to do it which is to improve physical apppereance... And there is nothing wrong with that.

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Posted on Feb 15, 2017, 7:02 pm
#567

Yes suffering is relative, it depends on your siblings, that country you live in, you co-workers, etc. I'm just saying that, at least in America (can't speak for other countries), if you're at least 5'7", you should be able to get by. Looking back, I think I were 5'7", I wouldn't have done this. If you build a good body at 5'7" and you're not hideously ugly, you can do just fine.

Totally understand that we all have our own reasons to do this. I'm just saying it's really men below 5'7/5'8" who actually "need" to do it. Because if you're shorter than 5'7", that's when you start running into a lot of females (even without heels) who are your height or taller.

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Posted on Feb 15, 2017, 9:59 pm
#568

If it makes you feel better, 6feetsoon, the perfect girl who I am dating now is 5'7" and from NYC. While yes, I do see a lot of tall guys in NYC, I also think you are ignoring the short ones. I am easily taller than 90% of the people taking public transportation in NYC.

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Posted on Feb 15, 2017, 11:57 pm
#569

Quote from: DoingItForMe on February 15, 2017, 09:59:23 PMIf it makes you feel better, 6feetsoon, the perfect girl who I am dating now is 5'7" and from NYC. While yes, I do see a lot of tall guys in NYC, I also think you are ignoring the short ones. I am easily taller than 90% of the people taking public transportation in NYC.


Haha you weren't paying attention when i said that my coworkers and social network are all also in the modeling industry. It's a different playing field altogether.

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Posted on Feb 16, 2017, 7:17 am
#570

Quote from: DoingItForMe on February 15, 2017, 09:59:23 PMIf it makes you feel better, 6feetsoon, the perfect girl who I am dating now is 5'7" and from NYC. While yes, I do see a lot of tall guys in NYC, I also think you are ignoring the short ones. I am easily taller than 90% of the people taking public transportation in NYC.

You are rich af man.Why do you use public transportation? DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley(ive mever been in ny,assuming its because of traffic?)

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