first off please stop going off like a broken record on fat embolism, I already said it was the only advantage, even if its probability is over exaggerated,
second please stop saying you are confined to a wheelchair and this method means no wheelchair, there are many internals from different doctors which will not leave you confined to wheelchair. so this point is mute.
lengthening 1 leg at a time will cause uneven wearing, its is ridiculous to even question this. I wont bother explaining why.
lengthening 1 leg at a time means you will be crippled for much longer, all because of the "scary" fat embolism.
and after you operate on the second leg if it is within a 6 month period of the first surgery, I highly doubt you will be walking any distances other than short distance, which means you will need a wheelchair. a wheelchair is not for people who can not walk, it is for people who can not walk large distances.
Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
Quote from: TomD on December 15, 2014, 12:34:55 AMOk Doc but just to make one thing clear:
We can do 1 tibia and 1femur on the same leg at the SAME time. Then wait to do the other leg.
1) How long do we wait to do the other leg?
2) How much does each leg cost (1 femur 1 tibia) ? Is it the 32,000 euro?
That was the price he listed, so it should be correct.
Thank you.
1) I believe, from what I understood, you do 6cm on tibia and femur. That will take approx. 3 months. After the 4th month you do the second surgery. Because you consolidate for one month before you enter the 2nd surgery.
2) That was the price he listed, so it should be correct.
Leo
Quote from: ForcedPuberty on December 15, 2014, 01:58:21 PMfirst off please stop going off like a broken record on fat embolism, I already said it was the only advantage, even if its probability is over exaggerated,
second please stop saying you are confined to a wheelchair and this method means no wheelchair, there are many internals from different doctors which will not leave you confined to wheelchair. so this point is mute.
lengthening 1 leg at a time will cause uneven wearing, its is ridiculous to even question this. I wont bother explaining why.
lengthening 1 leg at a time means you will be crippled for much longer, all because of the "scary" fat embolism.
and after you operate on the second leg if it is within a 6 month period of the first surgery, I highly doubt you will be walking any distances other than short distance, which means you will need a wheelchair. a wheelchair is not for people who can not walk, it is for people who can not walk large distances.
You havent explained your point of view. You are doing the surgery on 1 leg so there is no stress on the other leg . You wear increasing lifts on your healthy leg to match what you are growing on the other. Its not rocket science.
Doing bi lateral surgery puts 'uneven wear' on either the tibias or femurs . The bone that isnt being operated on will get 'uneven' wear instead of one tibia and one femur.
I have known many folks growing up who broke their leg and its far different from someone who broke both legs. The difference in mobility is night and day.
I would prefer to be able to walk around the entire time I am doing both surgeries. This would allow that.
Quote from: Leo on December 15, 2014, 03:46:34 PM1) I believe, from what I understood, you do 6cm on tibia and femur. That will take approx. 3 months. After the 4th month you do the second surgery. Because you consolidate for one month before you enter the 2nd surgery.
2) That was the price he listed, so it should be correct.
Leo
So it means 6cm EACH right? I would prefer 7 each so i suppose I can talk him into it if I have no complications by 6cm.
I have written him via email and asked him a question about pricing on here but still no reply. The main thing is the guy doesnt honestly expect us to do FOUR surgeries.
One tibia, then wait. Then come back for second tibia, then wait, then come back a year later one femur then wait then come back for another femur.
That is why I want clarification for the record that it be 1 femur 1 tibia one leg at the same time. Otherwise its not worth it.
Quote from: TomD on December 15, 2014, 09:31:13 PMSo it means 6cm EACH right? I would prefer 7 each so i suppose I can talk him into it if I have no complications by 6cm.
I have written him via email and asked him a question about pricing on here but still no reply. The main thing is the guy doesnt honestly expect us to do FOUR surgeries.
One tibia, then wait. Then come back for second tibia, then wait, then come back a year later one femur then wait then come back for another femur.
That is why I want clarification for the record that it be 1 femur 1 tibia one leg at the same time. Otherwise its not worth it.
The best option would be to visit him..
Quote from: ForcedPuberty on December 15, 2014, 09:58:11 PMdoing tibia and femur on 1 leg at the same time is a bad idea. you will loose your range of motion like you have no idea.
this is such a fad. weak minds will fall for shinny ideas.
You keep saying this but you don't say how you know that.
Lose your range of motion? How?
I think it makes common sense. However, I am not a doctor so we will see what he says . This is a very rare question. Most of the time the question is posed as doing both sets at the same time. As in all 4 bones.
I went and had a gander at old forum and the issue gets brought up but then is always all 4 bones at the same time which would be too much for your body to bear.
If you can do 2 tibias or 2 femurs, it stands to reason your body can handle 1 tibia and 1 femur.
Lets see what the doctor has to say. If anyone else can point us to medical abstracts regarding ONE tibia and ONE femur, I would also like to take a look at them.
Quote from: Leo on December 15, 2014, 09:38:58 PMThe best option would be to visit him..
Hi Leo.
I feel that a question this basic can and should be given to potential patients of his on this thread.
Either he is willing to lengthen one tibia and one femur at the same time or not.
If he wants us to do 4 separate surgeries to get the job done then it is in fact a waste of time. There is no need for it.
Quote from: TomD on December 15, 2014, 10:47:54 PMHi Leo.
I feel that a question this basic can and should be given to potential patients of his on this thread.
Either he is willing to lengthen one tibia and one femur at the same time or not.
If he wants us to do 4 separate surgeries to get the job done then it is in fact a waste of time. There is no need for it.
Hello TomB
He starts with one leg by doing tibia and femur in one surgery, and then you do the other leg. He calls it stage 2.
Stage 1 is when you do all 4 bones at the same time in one surgery.
Hope this helps
Leo
so let me get this right.
he does not do 2 tibias at the same time because hes scared of fat embolism.
he does not do 2 femurs at the same time because he is scared of fat embolism.
but he does both tibia and femur in the 1 operation because fat embolism magically disappears when its the same leg................
I smell bull .
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