Hello,
I know one of the reasons most men do the CLL is to improve their dating life.
I feel its OK to acknowledge it. For those who have finished the procedure and are fully recovered ¿do you feel the extra inhces it have really improved your dating life?
I would like to hear your expereriences.
Quote from: massco on January 29, 2020, 02:58:31 AMHello,
I know one of the reasons most men do the CLL is to improve their dating life.
I feel its OK to acknowledge it. For those who have finished the procedure and are fully recovered ¿do you feel the extra inhces it have really improved your dating life?
I would like to hear your expereriences.
It wasn't one of the reasons for my CLL, it is was THE REASON. When you are below the 5% in terms of height for a man (165cm or 5'5''in my case) it's really tough in the dating market.
I did better than expected before my LL but after adding 10cm I've got an 700% improvement in terms of hook ups and one-night stands (yes, I took notes and did the math...lol).
So in my case the LL was definitely worth it. I think anyone bellow average height for a male will see big improvements like me.
The effect of LL on average and tall males I can only guess but I think it will be less drastic if any.
I'm currently below average, 5'7.5" looking to do femurs to add 3+ inches, my reasons besides just feeling short, I'm looking forward to having more going for me in the dating game. Most definitely LL will help me dating wise at my current height, not only that but just feeling more confident in my own skin and getting over my height nuerosis, will make it easier for me to talk to women.
Only thing holding me back is the money right now.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on January 29, 2020, 04:24:44 AMThe effect of LL on average and tall males I can only guess but I think it will be less drastic if any.
My experience was the effect of LL on average to tall (I went from 5'9 to 6 ft) was pretty significant. I did well with women before LL but it was always a challenge with those women who had a dating rule of '6 ft or over only' as I had to work a lot harder and emphasize other aspects (personality, life style, confidence, wealth) to be successful with them. These women are typically the more attractive group and come in all heights (I've met short women who stated they'd only date 6 ft or above.) For these women, it doesn't matter if you are short or average, if you don't meet their tall threshold, you are filtered out.
Now, as a barefoot 6 ft person, although it's only been a bit over a month since finishing lengthening, I can say that being tall has made it a lot easier with women. I get their attention immediately and don't feel the need to emphasize other things like personality or conversational skills to keep their attraction level high as much as I used to.
Quote from: TheAlchemist on January 29, 2020, 05:16:19 AMMy experience was the effect of LL on average to tall (I went from 5'9 to 6 ft) was pretty significant. Now, as a barefoot 6 ft person, although it's only been a bit over a month since finishing lengthening, I can say that being tall has made it a lot easier with women. I get their attention immediately and don't feel the need to emphasize other things like personality or conversational skills to keep their attraction level high as much as I used to.
Great for you man! It's nice to know too, as I'm thinking about doing my tibias this year. 
But would you say that your improvement was as drastic as 700%?
In my case it was really life changing.
It's difficult to explain for people that are average or tall, but the majority of women are disgusted with short males. It's an evolutionary thing, they can't control.
I don't say this as a hyperbole, you could see in their faces when I was short, even though I'm reasonably good looking guy and very fit. Hell, i didn't need to see in their faces because so many times they directly told me that I was too short (I was once called a "half a person" by a female friend of a friend...).
And that was all gone after my LL and extra 10cm.
It was like I only became an adult in women's eyes after getting my LL.
That's what I meant for the change not being as drastic for average to tall.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on January 29, 2020, 05:43:35 AMGreat for you man! It's nice to know too, as I'm thinking about doing my tibias this year.
But would you say that your improvement was as drastic as 700%?
In my case it was really life changing.
It's difficult to explain for people that are average or tall, but the majority of women are disgusted with short males. It's an evolutionary thing, they can't control.
I don't say this as a hyperbole, you could see in their faces when I was short, even though I'm reasonably good looking guy and very fit. Hell, i didn't need to see in their faces because so many times they directly told me that I was too short (I was once called a "half a person" by a female friend of a friend...).
And that was all gone after my LL and extra 10cm.
It was like I only became an adult in women's eyes after getting my LL.
That's what I meant for the change not being as drastic for average to tall.
700% is amazing man. It's only been a month but I'm no where close to that. I'm happy for you and it's a great example of how, with the right mindset, LL can be life changing.
I think the significance of LL in the context of women really depends on the type of women we are talking about.
I think in the context of the general majority of women, you are right, going from short to average is far more significant than going from average to tall as being short is unfortunately almost a deal breaker for the large majority of women and you destroy that constraint by going from short to average and get results like 700%.
However, I think in the context of the highest value women (highly attractive, intelligent, exciting lifestyle) I think going from average to tall is more significant than going from short to average because these women are highly selective and it isn't uncommon for them to have a "6 ft and over" rule. High value women have an enormous amount of options that can be overwhelming (if she's online and outgoing she could get 100's of approaches from men) and she is just going to filter out any man "not tall" to be efficient. So in the context of these women, if you were 5'5, or 5'9, short or average, it doesn't matter, you are the same to her, didn't meet the cut and it's rare that they compromise (it can happen, it did for me, but I had to bring a lot to the table....)
The above is purely based on hooking up.....when it comes to long term relationships, other traits and compatibility considerations beyond height become far more important (values, career, wealth, life style, etc) , which is why you see a lot of disparity in attractiveness in marriages.
It depends where you live. In my case i am 184 barefoot and i am of the opinion that i could perform better in the date game if i was 190 tall
While I haven't had a 700% increase, yes, I my dating life has changed. Since I was 5'11" before LL, I didn't see a huge increase in numbers because I was already doing all right with women. Where I have really noticed the difference is in the quality of women I can get. Post LL, I can get high value women a lot more easily.
Quote from: TheAlchemist on January 29, 2020, 05:16:19 AMMy experience was the effect of LL on average to tall (I went from 5'9 to 6 ft) was pretty significant. I did well with women before LL but it was always a challenge with those women who had a dating rule of '6 ft or over only' as I had to work a lot harder and emphasize other aspects (personality, life style, confidence, wealth) to be successful with them. These women are typically the more attractive group and come in all heights (I've met short women who stated they'd only date 6 ft or above.) For these women, it doesn't matter if you are short or average, if you don't meet their tall threshold, you are filtered out.
Now, as a barefoot 6 ft person, although it's only been a bit over a month since finishing lengthening, I can say that being tall has made it a lot easier with women. I get their attention immediately and don't feel the need to emphasize other things like personality or conversational skills to keep their attraction level high as much as I used to.
it seems like you did all 8cm on femurs. did u have a big torso or short legs to begin with (for ur height). if not than i suppose doing 3 inches solely on femurs would make ur tibs look so much smaller and ur torso aswell. did people point that out to you or were they oblivious to it. im just curious because i did ll too and feel the disproportions.
Quote from: Sanity on February 24, 2020, 09:17:07 AMit seems like you did all 8cm on femurs. did u have a big torso or short legs to begin with (for ur height). if not than i suppose doing 3 inches solely on femurs would make ur tibs look so much smaller and ur torso aswell. did people point that out to you or were they oblivious to it. im just curious because i did ll too and feel the disproportions.
I had a relatively large torso pre LL. My relative wingspan was slightly large at about 5'10 (my original height was 5'9). I think post LL my proportions here look much better. Longish legs relative to torso is IMO an attractive trait.
My pre LL tibia / femur ratio was .79, or just within the normal range. Post LL my tibias definitely look small relative to my femurs but I'm unbothered by it. I haven't gotten any comments from anyone. Outside of the LL community I don't think society pays close attention to femur/ tibia proportions.
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