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Posted on Feb 2, 2022, 11:26 pm
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I hope I don't come across as a giant   with this post in this forum, because I'm not. And I hope you take my thoughts seriously. I don't know of any other place on the internet where you can talk openly about this topic, so here it is.

This is not about me, I feel fine with my height of 5'10" (178cm). It's about my relationship, genetics, future children and the happiness of them.

I treat every person out there nicely and with respect, unfortunately most of the world is not like that. I know it can be very hard in life for very short men. I hear this, observe it and read many reports on the internet about it.
If you are honest, heightism is the only form of discrimination that is still tolerated almost everywhere. Make a racist, sxxist, homophonic slur and you can lose your job, make it about a man's height and it's funny. I am aware of the subject, but now to my topic:

When I met my girlfriend (5'1" 155cm average height for girls in her country) almost 3 years ago, I did not think for a second about the topic of height. No problem for me, she is an enormously attractive and kind-hearted woman.  But now, with the thought of a future family with (maybe male) children, the thought has settled in my head.
I have to say that I am from Europe and she is from Latin America (Chile). I worked there for a while and met her in this time. We lived together in her country and in mine. It's still had a long distance relationship, but without major problems.

The people in her country are all much shorter on average than in mine. What shocked me a bit on my last visit there in October 2021 were her two brothers, which I have not seen in 2 years (she traveled to my country in this time). One is 16yo, the other one 21yo and neither are appreciably taller than her, maybe 5'3" at absolute best 5'4" (160-163cm). Both are shorter than their father, who should be about 5'6" (169cm+-) (parents live apart, I couldn't see him the last time I went there).Their mother is shorter than my girlfriend, maybe 4'11" (149cm) and her grandma shorter again, maybe 4'8"/9" (143cm). I don't know for sure I didn't measure of course.
All are very kind people and I treat them with the utmost respect.

Nevertheless, I must say that men with the height of her brothers do not really exist in my country. And this is what scares me when I think of a future family with children and we may have a son who could inherits the genes more from her side. Personally, I don't care how tall my son will be to be honest, but he will care I guess. And you want to see your children happy.
It sucks hard, b a man who is 5'3" certainly doesn't have it easy in my country, he will be shorter than every guy and nearly most girls. So I have a lot of concerns about my potential children's happiness, especially if it's a boy. I see our future, if there is one, in my country as well.

This thought is killing me mentally for a long time, I feel really bad about it. Am I overreacting? What do you think?

Besides, I can't talk to her openly about the subject either, because I don't want to hurt her or her family. On the other hand, she recently told me about a friend of her who is very unhappy because he has a hard time finding a partner in Chile since he is short. It put me down, I know him, he's a great guy. If he struggles to find a partner in Latin America because of his height, how is that supposed to be in my country where people are far taller?

It makes me sad, angry and desperate that I even have to think about this topic and that it's a problem, but it's a tough and unkind world out there.
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 12:33 am
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I don’t think you need to make a drama out of it.
Your male sons will be around 173/174 cm and can even reach 183 cm, if all care is taken during pregnancy and his development. 174cm is average in many European countries and slightly below UK (175 cm). There won't be any problem if you concentrate NOT in transmitting him your concerns on height but on the contrary, BUILD strong self esteem on himself.
Theoretically he can also be as short as 164 cm minimum but if he gets below one standard deviation some doctor will prescribe him growth hormone (which can or cannot work). But be careful not to "create" a problem to him if that doesn't exist yet!
Much more important for his hapiness is genetically and chromosome screening of the fetus before around 12 weeks pregnancy for hundreds of severe diseases that would impair drastically all his and family's quality of life (this is already partially possible).
Remember always: his hapiness depends also more on things such as their own parents hapiness, a good childhood and self esteem, good health, good environment at school, etc, than anything else.
In turn, this will make him more seducer and successful with girls!
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 7:06 am
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Personally man, I wouldn't care about a girls height AT ALL IF we weren't having kids.

If I have kids, I only want sons. I want to raise tall super players that can successfully carry on my genetic legacy while plowing other men's daughters. If you only want daughter I say stay with this chick.

If and when I decide to have sons, it will be with a TALL woman, as tall and reasonably attractive as I can find, ideally 5'10. I want to create elite warriors that will have an easy life and be able to easily attract women in the dating and mating game - and sports, and life in general.

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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 8:07 am
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Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on February 03, 2022, 07:06:56 AMPersonally man, I wouldn't care about a girls height AT ALL IF we weren't having kids.

If I have kids, I only want sons. I want to raise tall super players that can successfully carry on my genetic legacy while plowing other men's daughters. If you only want daughter I say stay with this chick.

If and when I decide to have sons, it will be with a TALL woman, as tall and reasonably attractive as I can find, ideally 5'10. I want to create elite warriors that will have an easy life and be able to easily attract women in the dating and mating game - and sports, and life in general.

So when you have daughter's what you gonna do?
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 9:30 am
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If short under -2SD of the average height then just inject HGH if not then just do CLL. Nothing special and you are so overacting to it.
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 10:08 am
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Quote from: zaozari on February 03, 2022, 12:33:45 AMYour male sons will be around 173/174 cm
That would be alright. You must have used this height formula? I'm just really scared because her brothers are very, very short. In their country, they are one of many men with this height, in my country you would be by far the shortest.


Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on February 03, 2022, 07:06:56 AMPersonally man, I wouldn't care about a girls height AT ALL IF we weren't having kids.

If I have kids, I only want sons. I want to raise tall super players that can successfully carry on my genetic legacy while plowing other men's daughters. If you only want daughter I say stay with this chick.

If and when I decide to have sons, it will be with a TALL woman, as tall and reasonably attractive as I can find, ideally 5'10. I want to create elite warriors that will have an easy life and be able to easily attract women in the dating and mating game - and sports, and life in general.
How are you going to make sure you have sons? That's random unless you're doing sex-selective IVF and I think a lot of women find that creepy.
I don't need tall sons, just "normal". Being tall alone won't help them, but being significantly too short would become a problem i guess.

Quote from: Mulholland Dr on February 03, 2022, 09:30:17 AMIf short under -2SD of the average height then just inject HGH if not then just do CLL. Nothing special and you are so overacting to it.
Her brothers would be below 1st percentile in my country HELP: Concerns about height/happiness of future children/son (gf is short).
Do you think HGH will work? I heared different stuff about it. If the health insurance does not cover it, it would of course be an enormous financial task
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 11:07 am
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Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on February 03, 2022, 07:06:56 AMPersonally man, I wouldn't care about a girls height AT ALL IF we weren't having kids.

If I have kids, I only want sons. I want to raise tall super players that can successfully carry on my genetic legacy while plowing other men's daughters. If you only want daughter I say stay with this chick.

If and when I decide to have sons, it will be with a TALL woman, as tall and reasonably attractive as I can find, ideally 5'10. I want to create elite warriors that will have an easy life and be able to easily attract women in the dating and mating game - and sports, and life in general.
There are really two kinds of users in this forum, maybe it has to do with one's maturity, age, experiences in life so far, etc
Those that want LL to improve their lives, and those who want their lives to improve their height (even be the tallest possible (as well as all family, wife and kids!). WTF if my "short" wife loves me as nobody else will!
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 11:10 am
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Quote from: Itsme on February 03, 2022, 10:08:46 AMThat would be alright. You must have used this height formula? I'm just really scared because her brothers are very, very short. In their country, they are one of many men with this height, in my country you would be by far the shortest.

How are you going to make sure you have sons? That's random unless you're doing sxx-selective IVF and I think a lot of women find that creepy.
I don't need tall sons, just "normal". Being tall alone won't help them, but being significantly too short would become a problem i guess.
Her brothers would be below 1st percentile in my country HELP: Concerns about height/happiness of future children/son (gf is short).
Do you think HGH will work? I heared different stuff about it. If the health insurance does not cover it, it would of course be an enormous financial task
I don't know if HGH would work. It apparently fails around half of the times. The body kind of "compensates" many times.
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 2:45 pm
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Thinking rationally and ignoring love:

It's very hard what I'm saying now, but sometimes I think it's better if we break up and she starts a family there and I here. Of course, that shouldn't be the "official" reason, as it would be too hurtful.
Considering her family height, the risk that our possible son will be very short is very high. And I think if that happens the son would be happier in Chile than in my country where the average is 178-180cm (5'10"-5'11").
It's sad to think of this, but people are merciless when you deviate far from the norm.
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Posted on Feb 3, 2022, 4:45 pm
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Quote from: Itsme on February 03, 2022, 02:45:15 PMThinking rationally and ignoring love:

It's very hard what I'm saying now, but sometimes I think it's better if we break up and she starts a family there and I here. Of course, that shouldn't be the "official" reason, as it would be too hurtful.
Considering her family height, the risk that our possible son will be very short is very high. And I think if that happens the son would be happier in Chile than in my country where the average is 178-180cm (5'10"-5'11").
It's sad to think of this, but people are merciless when you deviate far from the norm.
Since you brought the issue here, may I be sincere my friend? "Rationally"? You don't deserve the woman you have.

Why instead of being concerned with a few centimetres, don't you screen right away your own "tall" genes to check if you may conceive a child with severe autism and severe handicaps? Concentrate maybe also in starting to learn how to be a good father which is not easy.
It would be sadly ironic if you find a "giant" woman full of those real bad genes.

Plus you (178cm) are below what you say is the average in your country (180 cm??). Are you miserable because of that? Why so? 2 cm? Get counselling before ruinning your life!
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