Quote from: Outgrown on January 19, 2015, 03:28:00 AMThe humerus is one of the easiest bones to lengthen. When it comes to forearms, it shouldn't even be attempted doing so.
I'm starting to think he's just a giant troll.
QuoteThe humerus is one of the easiest bones to lengthen. When it comes to forearms, it shouldn't even be attempted doing so.
yes it is the easiest segment to lengthen.
that doesn't change the accuracy of my statement.
Quoteinternal for humerus is suicide.
ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE INFATUATED WITH INTERNALS CANT WORK THIS OUT,
people seem to think that magically everything turns to gold when you do ll if you spend 100k and get internals.
people need to use their brains.
read rothbard if it were not for people like me you would still be trying to convince the entire forum that 10cm on tibia and 10 cm on femur for a total of 20cm is COMPLEATLY EASY AND SAFE. just like when you first joined this forumn.
you keep stating bull and so I keep having to correct you.
all the things I correct you on are all situations where you keep insisting that you understand how society views things.
lets get 1 thing clear. Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication,
you don't understand how people treat you if you really have this condition, and you don't understand how society views things in a social setting especially in regards to height in a lot of situations if you have this condition.
this is why you don't like me and keep saying things like im a troll. is because you prefer to have people tell you what you want to hear, you want yes men to validate your opinions. but you keep stating that you are correct with such ferocity on issues when you have a mental illness that states that you cant possibly understand these issues.
Quote from: ForcedPuberty on January 19, 2015, 03:56:13 AMread rothbard if it were not for people like me you would still be trying to convince the entire forum that 10cm on tibia and 10 cm on femur for a total of 20cm is COMPLEATLY EASY AND SAFE. just like when you first joined this forumn.
you keep stating bull crap and so I keep having to correct you.
all the things I correct you on are all situations where you keep insisting that you understand how society views things.
lets get 1 thing clear. Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication,
you don't understand how people treat you if you really have this condition, and you don't understand how society views things in a social setting especially in regards to height in a lot of situations if you have this condition.
this is why you don't like me and keep saying things like im a troll. is because you prefer to have people tell you what you want to hear, you want yes men to validate your opinions. but you keep stating that you are correct with such ferocity on issues when you have a mental illness that states that you cant possibly understand these issues.
I understand these issues better than you.
You're just a bitter man that is set in his world view and is unwilling to take input from anyone else. I still think 10 cm per segment can be safe, but all the recovery time needed to make it happen just isn't worth it.
don't try to downplay your quote.
your saying 10cm per segment, so what your really saying is you still think 20cm total is safe............ why cant you learn.
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 19, 2015, 04:40:10 AMI understand these issues better than you.
You're just a bitter man that is set in his world view and is unwilling to take input from anyone else. I still think 10 cm per segment can be safe, but all the recovery time needed to make it happen just isn't worth it.
Readrotbard I like you and you mostly post respectable stuff but Forcedpuberty is right about the bias on here to tell each other what we want to hear. He's a bit rude about it sure but the fact of the matter is that in the vast amount of cases cosmetically lengthening 20CM is not advisable nor safe. You will survive and you will probably walk again but that's about it. I remember a user on this forum posted just about a week ago that he did 17CM in total and couldn't run anymore -he literally lost the ability to run said he just couldn't anymore.
We all want to gain 15CM+ but even if your proportions could handle it it is highly unlikely that your body could.
Quote from: Uppland on January 19, 2015, 05:26:05 AMReadrotbard I like you and you mostly post respectable stuff but Forcedpuberty is right about the bias on here to tell each other what we want to hear. He's a bit rude about it sure but the fact of the matter is that in the vast amount of cases cosmetically lengthening 20CM is not advisable nor safe. You will survive and you will probably walk again but that's about it. I remember a user on this forum posted just about a week ago that he did 17CM in total and couldn't run anymore -he literally lost the ability to run said he just couldn't anymore.
We all want to gain 15CM+ but even if your proportions could handle it it is highly unlikely that your body could.
The problem I have with this statement is that we don't have much evidence to support it. There are only a few diaries of those whom have done 20 cm, and those individuals have either done their lengthening with Dr. Betz or Dr. Sarin--one whom is a fraud and another whom's methods are questionable at best. There are, however, two studies that seem to demonstrate a full-recovery of a amateur athletic abilities in those whom have lengthened up to 11 cm on the tibias (with about 18 patients lengthening between 8-11 cm). The point is, while I do advise caution (which is why I am not doing 10 cm a segment no matter how much I would want to), we don't know what the safe limits are. There is evidence to suggest that 10 cm a segment can be safe, both from medical observations and studies themselves, but it is not definitive, for sure. There are also those, like Dr. Paley and Dr. Parihar, who advise no more than 12-15 cm total. We don't know yet,
I would say it's common sense but I really don't want to argue about it, if you won't risk it why do you insist on trying to keep the possibility open? I guess it all depends on how you deine "safe".
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 19, 2015, 04:40:10 AMI understand these issues better than you.
You're just a bitter man that is set in his world view and is unwilling to take input from anyone else. I still think 10 cm per segment can be safe, but all the recovery time needed to make it happen just isn't worth it.
forget it hes just a weirdo... self-convinced that he knows it all
QuoteI would say it's common sense but I really don't want to argue about it, if you won't risk it why do you insist on trying to keep the possibility open? I guess it all depends on how you deine "safe".
he kept stating for the longest time it was completely safe when he first arrived and that he intended and stated he was going to do 20cm.
he only changed his opinion after I argued black and blue with him and kept insisting how crazy 20cm was.
as for why he keeps the possibility open. who really knows.
my guess would be a lot of people fantasize about things and I would not be surprised if he does over lengthen if he ever gets surgery. it could also be his way of reassuring himself that he will recover 100% at 15cm if he thinks 20cm can be easily recovered if the person is dedicated with PT. people find solace in self reassurance that what they are choosing to do will turn out fine.
my statement to rothbard has and always will be the same. stop leading newcomers to hell, if you think 20cm is safe then write a diary and prove it with your own legs, but as long as there is no diary I will always be there to say that 20cm is crazy so that all the newbs don't have bad guidance and hurt themselves. people stating crazy things like 20cm is easy if your dedicated and is safe, can hurt others.
if readrothbard wants to hurt himself I don't care. but im not going to let him delude others with foolish notions of grandiose heights and goals which will lead others to ruin. so many people have been crippled or hurt doing so much less than 20cm.
Quoteforget it hes just a weirdo... self-convinced that he knows it all
if it is weird to insist that 20cm is crazy or to list facts then I am guilty.
its funny how people are so out of touch with reality that they despise truth over Etiquette.
people will ignore facts if trey find Etiquette offensive, even going so far as to disbelieve said facts because of this non adherence to Etiquette.
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