Quote from: Stand taller on January 02, 2024, 05:55:16 PMI thought I'd start a new thread about how LLS has changed my life when it comes to female attraction. I think there are a lot of men who feel that their short stature is hindering them when it comes to women, attraction and dating. There isn't a lot of good information out there when if comes to this and there aren't many LLS'er who have shared information on the topic. I have written about this in my diary the past year, but I want to start a separate thread just for this. Here I want to share my experience so far, and also answer any questions that you guys may have on the subject. Here I will be brutally honest and won't sugar coat anything.
Just to be clear, I did not do LLS because I wanted to attract more women. Though potentially become more attractive to women after getting taller was A REASON, it wasn't THE REASON. The main reason for doing it was because I didn't really feel like an adult being 165cm in my mid 30s. Now that I am in my late 30s and 177cm I do feel like an adult. I new from research that I would be treated better by society as a whole being taller, as well as making my way through work and climbing the ranks easier. Having the means to pay for surgery cash and having come out of many year relationship meant that the timing was perfect. Like most of you I suffered from height dysphoria, which now is actually cured.
I did also do a lot of research about how height does affect female attraction and dating. I came across many studies suggesting that height is very important when it comes to this. The most promising research I read showed that I could have a five fold improvement in attraction with women, in essence meaning my dating pool would increase five fold in size. With knowing this I told my self that even If I didn't see any improvement with women, that would also be fine because that wasn't the main reason for doing this surgery.
Past May, 16 months post surgery I was finally ready to put my new height to the test. And boy was I in for a surprise. It was like a light switch the change and immediate attention I got. At first I thought it must have been anomaly, just tried to enjoy the moment. But at this club dancing with three hot women at the same time, I thought to my self "I have never ever been in this situation before". And to be honest it was very overwhelming.
From the age 13 to my mid 30s I have pretty much had the same experience with women. Most women ignore me, some women find me cute, and very few women have actually found me attractive enough to date. I have dated a few very attractive women and had a few attractive girl friends. With that being said, I always felt like most women ignored me and I had to "work" through so many women to find someone who found me attractive. It was always such hard work compared to many of my friends, and sometimes it could get almost depressing. What really threw me of it that a few times throughout those 20 odd years pre surgery I would occasionally be told I has "hot" or "handsome". Most times I would hear it second hand, and maybe twice had I ever heard it to my face. And this would be from some really attractive women as well. But to be brutally honest and clear, hearing these types of compliments was a very rare exception.
Starting in May I would go out almost every weekend, and the attention from women would be steady. At first I would notice much more looks and stares from women. And every time I would initiate conversation when out, I would almost always get a positive response, with most women genuinely being interested in talking to me. Nothing revolutionary, but definite change from the old being ignored most of the time. I started to write down all my positive encounters because I wanted to measure if there really was a change from before, or if it was all in my head or even just statistical luck.
Within the first month of going out I'd had two girls inviting me back to their place, and a few "hi there handsome" or "you look good" or "I mean you're good looking" directly to my face. But I was still being careful about what I though, because the last person I wanted to fool was my self. As the months passed the offers from women to come back to their place, the unsolicited compliments, the encounters of women approaching me and openness to any women I approached continued. There didn't seem to be a slow down, rather an uptick as I started to lean more and more into my new role.
And you guys have to remember that my whole life I was used to having to work hard for women, and now suddenly being served women was a huge shift i dynamics for me. At first it was very overwhelming I really didn't know how to deal with it. But after months of this I chose to embrace it and think to my self "maybe I am as attractive as these women say I am", but damn that is hard thing to accept considering a while life worth of experience to the contrary. But as bizarre as it may sound, looking at my self as before was the actual delusional way. So I actually had to change the way I looked at myself, my self image and self portrayal had to change according to my new experiences.
More than seven months after that May day I have leaned more and more into my new role, my new self, my new life. I have since that day in May had more than 90 positive encounters with women, these encounters include anything from compliments, women approaching me, random women making out with me, women grabbing me or pulling me, being invited back to their place or good old hook ups. In the past two months alone I have had 14 sxxual experiences with women - which is half as many as from the age of 13-35.
The experiences and encounters I have from women don't seize to amaze me. It is still hard to come to term with my new self, and I probably won't fully embrace from some time. But that does not mean I am not enjoying the journey, because I am. It has been one hell of ride. A ride I NEVER in my wildest dreams would have even considered. It is all just very absurd
After being called "attractive", "handsome", "good looking" dusins of times in the past seven months, I now accept that is who I have become. I don't think I was less handsome pre surgery, but what I do now know is that my short height meant most women cared more about that, than my face. Having the same face as before, albeit an attractive face it is that in combination with my new average height that is key to success here.
I truly believe that having an attractive enough face with enough height is sufficient to have an overwhelmingly positive experience with women. You don't have to be the tallest of the most attractive. Here is an example.
Me and my friends went out on New Years, and we were dancing on the dance floor. Both of my friends are taller than me, on is probably 182cm and the other one 188cm. While all three of us are dancing these two hot girls come over and they immediately pull me inn making a small circle with us three. Ignoring my taller friends. One of the girls has an empty drink with just ice cubes remaining. She then mouths the ice cube moves her lips over to me and gives me the ice cube while kissing and making out with me. Her friend then comes in to take the ice cube from me in the same manner. We do this a few more times, and my friends are being us just in shock. While enjoying this I am also thinking "what has my life become", I have never ever experienced anything like this in my whole life. But here I am in my late 30s playing pass the ice cubes with these two hot 20s something girls. Yeah, I don't know either. We do this while dancing another ten minutes before the girls leave the dance floor. To round uop the story, I did find one the girls later, but I found another girls I like better that evening instead.
So yeah, this surgery has definitely changed my life for the better. And I now living a life I never even imagined. It is truly insane.
I would love to hear post LLS stories from others.
//Stand taller
Hey what’s up man thanks for sharing. I remember reading your diary about your experiences with girls, and to be honest I couldn’t believe what I was reading. It just seemed too ridiculous that you could go from somewhat invisible to being on the radar of almost every girl you notice, but you have absolutely no reason to lie and I’m inclined to believe you.
I’m around the same height (about 167cm) and my experiences are almost entirely identical to you pre-LL. I had attractive GF’s, would get called handsome and attractive every now and then but I really have to put in work to get girls. Many girls would show no interest but I still was able to get girls that were attracted to me if I worked at it. However when I’d go out to clubs and bars I’d feel invisible next to my taller friends.
I wanted to ask you some questions,
1) do you think 173cm will still be a huge change from 167? I don’t think I’ll be able to reach 177 especially since I’m doing tibia, but curious what your thoughts are on if 6cm is still worth it. I am in the US so avg height here is less than Europe.
2) before you did LL did you notice you would get way more looks and smiles from girls if they were sitting down or looking at you from a perspective where they couldn’t tell your height? I noticed when I’m walking around that many women sitting down would stare at me or smile, whereas women that were walking wouldn’t even glance in my direction. It’s like the short height just completely takes away any points you have with your face, but when they are seated and can’t tell your height all of a sudden you get more attention. Honestly it’s demoralizing. Did you also experience something similar?
The sheer amount of positive attention you get from a 12cm change is really unbelievable, at times I still can’t believe what I’m reading. If I could even get half of the change you got from going to 173cm it would be worth it to me.
