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Posted on Feb 8, 2018, 7:43 pm
#51

Quote from: BruceWayne on February 08, 2018, 06:29:12 PMI'm not sure how it's relevant. The children are still growing by this time.
Wrong. Just so you know, 1 of them was 29 and was mistaken with/for a teenager. When the police got there they thought they were all under 18.

Also:

The seven adult children were being cared for at Corona Regional Medical Center, said CEO Mark Uffer. He described them as small and clearly malnourished. "It's hard to think of them as adults when you first see them because they're small."

I could go on with more quotations...

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Posted on Feb 8, 2018, 7:50 pm
#52

Quote from: Auron on February 08, 2018, 07:43:11 PMWrong. Just so you know, 1 of them was 29 and was mistaken with/for a teenager. When the police got there they thought they were all under 18.

Also:

The seven adult children were being cared for at Corona Regional Medical Center, said CEO Mark Uffer. He described them as small and clearly malnourished. "It's hard to think of them as adults when you first see them because they're small."

I could go on with more quotations...

Ok you have my attention now.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2018, 8:46 pm
#53

Quote from: Auron on February 08, 2018, 04:59:52 PMHow this topic is still debatable baffles me. Just take into account the story of 13 children held captive in California and you pretty much got your answer.

Most here were debating how nutrition and lifestyle can affect your own height when you were born into a relatively well-off family in the modern world. I don't think nutrition was a factor for anyone in this forum. Whereas for life, I'll continue in my reply to Bruce.

That a situation like that of the children in California will cause a much smaller height is certainly not debatable. They were kept captive, malnourished and routinely abused - many until adulthood.

Quote from: BruceWayne on February 08, 2018, 06:29:12 PMWhat do you mean by "a little bit"?

I'm still examining the science, but I don't think anyone who didn't undergo massive trauma and stress until adulthood could have had a severely stunted growth. However, unlike people here were saying, it seems that yes, higher than average stress levels until adulthood could have influenced someone's height. A little bit. So it seems that is possible that people may have had lost height due to how their lives went, but it depends on a lot of factors. The higher than average stress levels would need to have continued from childhood into adulthood. Like with PSS, if a child is removed from the stressing environment, the child's growth will go back to normal, and this is also mentioned in the article I linked there.

In your case, I don't believe nutrition was a factor at all. I've seen that you mentioned your father as being 175cm/5'9 and your mother as being around 158cm/5'2, so I don't think your upbringing could have had severely stunted your growth. If your father was 6 feet/183cm and your mother was 5'9/175cm, then yes, I'd believe that a height of 167cm/5'6 could be described as severely stunted growth due to stress. Otherwise, I'd think the stress levels could only have affected it a bit.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2018, 9:20 pm
#54

Quote from: myloginacct on February 08, 2018, 04:40:04 PMI looked up better papers and I'll go through them all during the next few days, but it wouldn't surprise me at all that growth is stunted by a bad childhood. A bad youth, specially a bad childhood, affects everything in your life, from future health and psychological conditions to the very shape and wiring of your brain. I agree it can't massively stunt one's growth to the level of Psychosocial Short Stature, but it probably does affect it a little bit, specially if stress levels remain elevated until 18.

Yes, I agree. What I meant is that the papers don't confirm what some paranoid posters here have claimed, for example that one's growth can be stunted by 4 inches because they didn't eat breakfast or only slept 6 hours on some days during the week while being a teenager. That stuff they don't prove.

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Posted on Feb 9, 2018, 12:50 am
#55

Those kids in California are a rare exception. As myloginacct said, their lives were far from average. Even children in war zones are treated better.

Too much dwelling on the past, Bruce. What are we going to do, sue our parents and whoever made us upset as a child? We don't have a time machine either, it's too late for all of us no matter what the science says. Spend less time thinking negative thoughts, and instead think about the future, like your martial arts training.

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Posted on Feb 9, 2018, 12:59 am
#56

some people here are chronical complainers about things they can't do anything about

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Posted on Feb 9, 2018, 1:49 am
#57

Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on February 08, 2018, 09:20:24 PMYes, I agree. What I meant is that the papers don't confirm what some paranoid posters here have claimed, for example that one's growth can be stunted by 4 inches because they didn't eat breakfast or only slept 6 hours on some days during the week while being a teenager. That stuff they don't prove.

6 hours?

I wish I could sleep that much once a week. I slept 0-2hours on average from the age of 10.

I remember one occasion where I felt so grateful because I managed to get 4 hours a sleep the previous night.

Quote from: Android on February 09, 2018, 12:50:35 AMThose kids in California are a rare exception. As myloginacct said, their lives were far from average. Even children in war zones are treated better.

Too much dwelling on the past, Bruce. What are we going to do, sue our parents and whoever made us upset as a child? We don't have a time machine either, it's too late for all of us no matter what the science says. Spend less time thinking negative thoughts, and instead think about the future, like your martial arts training.

So was mine.

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Posted on Feb 9, 2018, 1:53 am
#58

Quote from: BruceWayne on February 09, 2018, 01:49:37 AMI wish I could sleep that much once a week. I slept 0-2hours on average from the age of 10.

I remember one occasion where I felt so grateful because I managed to get 4 hours a sleep the previous night.

What a bull  lmao

You wouldnt even function properly u dummy

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Posted on Feb 9, 2018, 3:56 am
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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on February 09, 2018, 01:53:21 AMWhat a bull  lmao

You wouldnt even function properly u dummy

Who said I did?

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Posted on Feb 9, 2018, 10:17 am
#60

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on February 09, 2018, 01:53:21 AMWhat a bull  lmao

You wouldnt even function properly u dummy

don't forget he is Batman

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