I have decided to call it off

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Quote from: Alu on June 11, 2016, 01:25:46 AMI feel for you entirely man. I'd be ticked off if someone did that too me. I knew something was fishy about that account considering everything at the time. You should do whatever you feel makes you happiest dude. Whether to do it or not. Also stop smoking man, you should know how bad that stuff is for you. In any case, I wish you the best mate. You're level headed so I trust your judgment and one of the few I respect the most here.

And again sorry that that happened to you. I wish you the absolute best!

Hey Tibike,

You stop smoking, and I'll cut down to 1 pack a day instead of 2+...deal? lol

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Quote from: CCMidwest on June 10, 2016, 01:05:57 PMPlay the hand you're dealt as best you can.

I think I am already doing that.
It irks me, though, to have this massive barrier in my way, which is my height.



Quote from: CCMidwest on June 10, 2016, 01:05:57 PMChange that hand with LL if that is what you want. Just be smart about it. (good doc, not an extreme amount)

Exactly.
Get a good doc, give yourself some time to heal, don't do LATN or LON, and don't go over 6 cm on one segment.

That's what I basically got out of reading all these diaries.

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Quote from: Cheez on June 11, 2016, 08:03:03 AMI think I am already doing that.
It irks me, though, to have this massive barrier in my way, which is my height.



Exactly.
Get a good doc, give yourself some time to heal, don't do LATN or LON, and don't go over 6 cm on one segment.

That's what I basically got out of reading all these diaries.

I'm glad you are already playing the hand you got the best you can. Lot's of guys here sink into a deep dark depression over all of this (myself included) and it pains me so to see it. I really want to see my fellow men succeed in life.

What I got out of the diaries basically amounts to, "don't be cheap"

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Quote from: CCMidwest on June 11, 2016, 01:28:14 PMI'm glad you are already playing the hand you got the best you can. Lot's of guys here sink into a deep dark depression over all of this (myself included) and it pains me so to see it. I really want to see my fellow men succeed in life.

I had this feeling when I was younger. But over the years I noticed, that a lot of people in my bigger circle of friends didn't manage to do better (for example with women) even if they were taller.

For instance, I know a couple of athletic 190cm guys, where I can safely say that I had more and prettier women than them.

Being tall is not everything. You still need the whole package.

But feeling you have "the whole package", and the only thing that hinders you is your height is still irking me.

Quote from: CCMidwest on June 11, 2016, 01:28:14 PMWhat I got out of the diaries basically amounts to, "don't be cheap"

I think you can pay the best doctor the largest sums, but if you don't take care about your healing process yourself, overlengthen, have LATN and then afterwards chronic knee pain or other things like that paying the best doctor doesn't mean much and you can still be fked in the end.

Just have a level headed approach to LL and things are going to be okay, I think.

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Quote from: Cheez on June 11, 2016, 04:28:20 PMI had this feeling when I was younger. But over the years I noticed, that a lot of people in my bigger circle of friends didn't manage to do better (for example with women) even if they were taller.

For instance, I know a couple of athletic 190cm guys, where I can safely say that I had more and prettier women than them.

Being tall is not everything. You still need the whole package.

But feeling you have "the whole package", and the only thing that hinders you is your height is still irking me.
I think you can pay the best doctor the largest sums, but if you don't take care about your healing process yourself, overlengthen, have LATN and then afterwards chronic knee pain or other things like that paying the best doctor doesn't mean much and you can still be fked in the end.

btw, this post wasnt directed at you, I just quoted you because I wanted to use some of the facts you said

Just have a level headed approach to LL and things are going to be okay, I think.

 That's because unlike what many not short losers say around here (I am talking 175 and up), being taller is not a ticket into pussy land or into "OMG I am so popular kingdom".
  Sincerly, you are absolutly no right to "blame" your height if you have absolutely no success with women (Even if you are below 170). If till your late 20's you couldnt manage to be with atleast one woman, I am sorry to break it to you, but you do indeed have a problem, but it's not your height.
 Also, the notion that "taller is always better" needs to be a little bit put into sense... Being 190 has absolutely no advantage over someone who is 180. Once you arent short anymore, it doesnt matter how tall you are... LL is a ticket out of shorthood. Since, being tall has absolutely no advantages over someone who is not considered short.
 "If all else is equal, height matters" (I know you didnt say it), yes it is indeed correct... But you know what? You arent equal to anybody in any aspect (especially aesthetic aspects). This hypothetical equation is good for therotical physics, not the real world.

90% of the people here will remain miserable even after LL (And even if they could magically become 185).
  This forum is toxic (to a lesser extent than the other one though) with anything regarding height BDD.. This maniacal glorification of height is utterly disgusting.

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Quote from: CCMidwest on June 10, 2016, 01:05:57 PMAll else being equal, yeah, taller is better. Why do you think LL interests me?

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 11, 2016, 04:46:24 PMAlso, the notion that "taller is always better" needs to be a little bit put into sense...

I feel like this was directed at me a little bit...

So I'll clarify my statement.

The exact same *ME* at 5'7

or

The exact same *ME* at 5'9

Rather be 5'9.

So I think we are on the same page.

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 11, 2016, 04:46:24 PMThis forum is toxic (to a lesser extent than the other one though) with anything regarding height BDD.. This maniacal glorification of height is utterly disgusting.

Agreed. The only benefit to this forum is that I have contact with some people who have helped in a positive way with bdd.

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I concur, that being taller won't magically heal you from being completely ineffective with women.
If you are a dork, being a tall dork won't make you Mr. Pussymillionaire all of a sudden.

If you are good with women, and lead a good life already, getting taller (in my case going from 1.74 to 1.80) might be  that icing on the cake that you crave for if you feel like you already have accomplished most of the things in life that you dreamed of as a boy (I am 41 years old, btw).

And personally, I think, that if you keep a level headed approach to LL (good Surgeon, <6cm, lengthen around .66 a day, no LON/LATN, daily stretching and walking with walker), this can be done rather well and without too many complications.

Your mileage may vary off course.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on April 03, 2016, 02:41:44 PMThe fear is too big. Since the booking of the surgery I had sleepness nights with alot of anxieity. It's not worth the risks in my height. My life was good till now and it will be afterwards. Dont want to risk my life in order to fulfil a dream which might be false. A dream which was created by the internet which had nothing to do with real life.
  I have lived life to it's fullest with my 5'7 (171cm) till now, and there is no reason I wouldnt be able to continue to do so.

 As I told you before I have spoken with Israeli docs. There is a reason why this procedure is forbidden in Israel to people of my height. Again, the risks are too big. When I calculate risk/gain ratio, it's simply not worth it.

I just got done with Lengthening.  IF, YOU EVER DECIDED TO DO IT.  JUST DO PRECISE 2 method.  Very easy compared to what I did.  illizarov old school method.  Oh and by the way go buy some lifts for parties and clubs.  I think I should of done that before I did this surgery.  Also, if you wanted to do it for girls, just work on your seduction skills man, it will prove much better results.

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Quote from: CCMidwest on June 11, 2016, 05:38:46 PMI feel like this was directed at me a little bit...

So I'll clarify my statement.

The exact same *ME* at 5'7

or

The exact same *ME* at 5'9

Rather be 5'9.

So I think we are on the same page.

Agreed. The only benefit to this forum is that I have contact with some people who have helped in a positive way with bdd.

maybe you're ugly and can't find women. height is fking nothing except in dating website thats all.

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 TIBIKE, if you have decided to avoid this surgery is really OK, I admire you because no everybody can do it( including me). You should be sure that height above 170+ doesnt matter at all, because some people get older and regret, however, it is not your case you are realizing about a lot of things. Catagni is right in saying that average people have a deeper problem than just height, I think the deepest problem with average people is the desire of highlight, in some way that height becomes an advantage. So how to avoid being narcissistic?