Quote from: Assyiah on April 12, 2024, 09:42:15 AM
honestly i would go through all that to be taller tbh, nothing beats the feeling of seeing someone taller than you. only thing that scares me is the complications, my mobility and flexibility isnt all that. ill still do it in a year or two tho. I KNOW DEEP DOWN I WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE 5’9 when my dad is 6’3, waking up to say goodmorning to your 6’2 younger brother has to be the most gruesome and brutal experience ive ever lived through. inheriting the genetics from my moms side got me wondering if i just should end it and give all the money ive made but its whatever , ascension or death.
You seem mentally unstable unfortunately and this is the biggest red flad of doing LL, not your height which is already normal.
Wait some years, go to a psychologist and then you will decide better.
I'm also 5'9 and planning on doing LL, however you're definitely not in the right mental state for it. You need to take your mind off this for a year or so, seek therapy and possibly medication. During that time stay healthy and stretch then at the end if you still feel strongly go for it.
Quote from: Assyiah on April 10, 2024, 07:45:14 AMhello Im 19 years , my height is around 5’9 5’10. im very stable finance wise, so money isnt an issue at all. however, is doing the surgery worth it? I only need 5-6cm to reach my goal, ive always dreamt of being 6’0. but at the same time i wonder if its worth it at all since all the serious complications and a risk of being crippled. Im in a really bad place mentally as well, not really socializing with people and i have nobody to tell this to cuz they will think im crazy.
Hi, man.
First of all you are too young for this surgery !
I am not talking anything about your mental state now, because I am sure few years later you'll be more mature and you 'll be able to control yourself.
You are tall enough so no need to be depressed. Most of the guys here are much shorter than you.
But, of course, 5.9 is not funny for western countries.
Just wait until the age of 25 and then you can do it. Meanwhile go to school and get a diploma, don't waste your time thinking you are short !
Quote from: Ted68 on April 15, 2024, 09:50:33 AMHi, man.
First of all you are too young for this surgery !
I am not talking anything about your mental state now, because I am sure few years later you'll be more mature and you 'll be able to control yourself.
You are tall enough so no need to be depressed. Most of the guys here are much shorter than you.
But, of course, 5.9 is not funny for western countries.
Just wait until the age of 25 and then you can do it. Meanwhile go to school and get a diploma, don't waste your time thinking you are short !
Yes im trying to be at a better place mentally for now, but its hard when everything you want is based on getting taller, i dont want to be a cripple either but i dont wanna live life as a short dude , yeah i get it theres many that r shorter than me but i feel like i missed out on something i coulda had if i just had my life together during my puberty, everyone around me is taller than 5’9 i rarely see any short dudes , family gatherings. I dont go to those anymore since everyone looks at me differently since im not that tall which is really taking a turn on me. Did i waste my teen and puberty years making money just to be like this? It doesnt make sense, just makes me question alot
Don't listen to all the soyboys saying muh therapy. That's just a buzzword redditors love to use. Most of them act as though it can cure cancer.
Your problem is a fully legitimate one, and so isn't going to be solved by sitting next to some women with some BS psychology degree and hearing her say height doesn't matter before she goes off to fk her 6ft 2 boyfriend. 5ft 9 is short. It's not turbo manlet, but yes, it's a flaw, and your life would be much better at 6ft. The only thing that matters is are you prepared to sacrifice the time and the money to get these life improvements.
Your lack of socialisation is partially caused by the fact you're short, as the world gives a halo effect to taller people. Yes, some soyboy is going to point out they know a 5ft 2 guy with friends who goes out, but that's just a ty of an argument as me pointing to one example of a tall guy with the same social life and saying that proves height is what's important. Your height matters, and your social situation would improve a bit if you're taller, especially with women.
If you decide to do it, do it quickly. Getting it done at 19 means you'll have all your 20s to enjoy your new height, getting it done at 25, well you just wasted 5 of your prime years being short - and I say that as a guy who only had the money to get this done at 32 (it's still well worth it, but of course it would have been better at 20). Don't fag around for years doing 'research' or telling yourself you need muh stable job or muh better finances first - it's better to be broke and tall than loaded and short anyday of the week. And it's better to be young and tall than old and tall. Get it done fast if you want to do it.
Quote from: Assyiah on April 16, 2024, 09:29:55 AM
Yes im trying to be at a better place mentally for now, but its hard when everything you want is based on getting taller, i dont want to be a cripple either but i dont wanna live life as a short dude , yeah i get it theres many that r shorter than me but i feel like i missed out on something i coulda had if i just had my life together during my puberty, everyone around me is taller than 5’9 i rarely see any short dudes , family gatherings. I dont go to those anymore since everyone looks at me differently since im not that tall which is really taking a turn on me. Did i waste my teen and puberty years making money just to be like this? It doesnt make sense, just makes me question alot
Ignore the troll replies. In anycase, you're not short. You're 19, being 5'9 next to your brother/father isn't the worst thing that'll happen to you, you still have like atleast 50 more years of whatever worst thing that'll happen to you. This perception has been skewed heavily only in the past decade or so highly due to social media. The average male height in US is still largely the same for a quite a few decades now, and while it's true that some part of the younger generation is taller, for the most part it's still largely the same. That pov of yours also most likely exaggerated that because of your younger brother and father. Now, this decision is yours to make entirely, but think about it for a while if you really want to go through with it, you most likely don't have the money for it now anyways, so you have some time to think it through.
It's just an amazing thing to think about ngl about how much, mainly women and redpills/incels rejection from women has shifted the perception and made a fine line that 6' is considered tall and anything below that even 5'10~5'11 is short. No one likes being short, that's true, but that's a real blow to think about especially to actual short people.
Quote from: Assyiah on April 12, 2024, 09:42:15 AM
waking up to say goodmorning to your 6’2 younger brother has to be the most gruesome and brutal experience ive ever lived through.
As much as this cringes me and frustrates to read something like this, I've also learned that mental suffering is not "less real" even if it comes in an absurd form. To me what you wrote just makes me want to say that you haven't really lived life then if THAT is your worst experience in life. But that's not true, you have lived through your 19 years, you have experienced bullying and low self esteem and whatever else is the cause of this. Our suffering is anyway mind-created, so there is not really more or less real suffering in that sense. But you definitely have mental issues that need work before you take upon anything like this. Plus you might still grow naturally. Give it a couple of years, work on yourself with dedication, see where you are then.
Height lengthening might be good for you down the line, but right now you have a completely distorted tunnel vision. Height isn't such a big deal as the internet makes it to be. I'm 5'8, living in a "tall country", and I'm generally found very attractive and no problems. I read about the problems people my height are experiencing here and there, I just never experienced them. I wish I was taller. Surely I would be even more attractive and authoritative in a physical sense. Height matters, but not THAT much. I lived up to 30 years old without even realising that height matters. And again my country has quite high average height.
Your underlying mental state, low self-esteem, unhappiness and whatever bullying etc you have experienced in your life that have left a mark, they are now manifesting as a tunnel vision. All this unhappiness in you gets channelled towards this one idea, one goal, if you only were taller it would all be different. Trust me, your mind will grab another thing once height is off the table unless you do the self-work, therapy so on. For some people it is hairloss, for some it is lack of a manly beard (no joke). That is how the mind works, and the condition of your mind is very obssessive now. Your mind isn't automatically going to change it's foundations once you become taller. You will still find yourself in the therapy sessions.
Just today I watched a youtube vid of a plastic surgeon who said that he doesn't recommend people coming for operations if they are in an unstable, obsessed mental and emotional space. Work it out first, then come to the operation, because those people are statistically the ones who end up being happier with the changes.
Edit: Also maybe you will be incredibly happy with leg lengthening results eventually if all goes well with it all. Just really consider giving it some time and invest working on your inner issues first. That's an investment no-one will ever regret making. And honestly you're only 19. You seem quite aware for your age, and someone who wakes up to their inner work so young has incredible opportunity in their hands to make the best of their life.
Quote from: onedaytall on April 22, 2024, 01:07:49 AMAs much as this cringes me and frustrates to read something like this, I've also learned that mental suffering is not "less real" even if it comes in an absurd form. To me what you wrote just makes me want to say that you haven't really lived life then if THAT is your worst experience in life. But that's not true, you have lived through your 19 years, you have experienced bullying and low self esteem and whatever else is the cause of this. Our suffering is anyway mind-created, so there is not really more or less real suffering in that sense. But you definitely have mental issues that need work before you take upon anything like this. Plus you might still grow naturally. Give it a couple of years, work on yourself with dedication, see where you are then.
Height lengthening might be good for you down the line, but right now you have a completely distorted tunnel vision. Height isn't such a big deal as the internet makes it to be. I'm 5'8, living in a "tall country", and I'm generally found very attractive and no problems. I read about the problems people my height are experiencing here and there, I just never experienced them. I wish I was taller. Surely I would be even more attractive and authoritative in a physical sense. Height matters, but not THAT much. I lived up to 30 years old without even realising that height matters. And again my country has quite high average height.
Your underlying mental state, low self-esteem, unhappiness and whatever bullying etc you have experienced in your life that have left a mark, they are now manifesting as a tunnel vision. All this unhappiness in you gets channelled towards this one idea, one goal, if you only were taller it would all be different. Trust me, your mind will grab another thing once height is off the table unless you do the self-work, therapy so on. For some people it is hairloss, for some it is lack of a manly beard (no joke). That is how the mind works, and the condition of your mind is very obssessive now. Your mind isn't automatically going to change it's foundations once you become taller. You will still find yourself in the therapy sessions.
Just today I watched a youtube vid of a plastic surgeon who said that he doesn't recommend people coming for operations if they are in an unstable, obsessed mental and emotional space. Work it out first, then come to the operation, because those people are statistically the ones who end up being happier with the changes.
Edit: Also maybe you will be incredibly happy with leg lengthening results eventually if all goes well with it all. Just really consider giving it some time and invest working on your inner issues first. That's an investment no-one will ever regret making. And honestly you're only 19. You seem quite aware for your age, and someone who wakes up to their inner work so young has incredible opportunity in their hands to make the best of their life.
Your comment is 100% spot on , im just living everyday struggling with my height i cant even live my life as a normal human being, it bothers me so much which is all mental i know , my dad and brothers look up to me since i was the one that took them out of poverty and i got both of my brothers into college, but i still feel less, you know? i wake up everyday with the same thought wishing i was taller even if it was 2inches , my girlfriend of 2 years cheated on me with a 6’2 dude as well and that got to my head so hard that i think about it all day long for the past 3months , i put up a plan to fix everything else in my life during this year and go for the surgery next year if everything goes well.
Quote from: onedaytall on April 22, 2024, 01:07:49 AMAs much as this cringes me and frustrates to read something like this, I've also learned that mental suffering is not "less real" even if it comes in an absurd form. To me what you wrote just makes me want to say that you haven't really lived life then if THAT is your worst experience in life. But that's not true, you have lived through your 19 years, you have experienced bullying and low self esteem and whatever else is the cause of this. Our suffering is anyway mind-created, so there is not really more or less real suffering in that sense. But you definitely have mental issues that need work before you take upon anything like this. Plus you might still grow naturally. Give it a couple of years, work on yourself with dedication, see where you are then.
Height lengthening might be good for you down the line, but right now you have a completely distorted tunnel vision. Height isn't such a big deal as the internet makes it to be. I'm 5'8, living in a "tall country", and I'm generally found very attractive and no problems. I read about the problems people my height are experiencing here and there, I just never experienced them. I wish I was taller. Surely I would be even more attractive and authoritative in a physical sense. Height matters, but not THAT much. I lived up to 30 years old without even realising that height matters. And again my country has quite high average height.
Your underlying mental state, low self-esteem, unhappiness and whatever bullying etc you have experienced in your life that have left a mark, they are now manifesting as a tunnel vision. All this unhappiness in you gets channelled towards this one idea, one goal, if you only were taller it would all be different. Trust me, your mind will grab another thing once height is off the table unless you do the self-work, therapy so on. For some people it is hairloss, for some it is lack of a manly beard (no joke). That is how the mind works, and the condition of your mind is very obssessive now. Your mind isn't automatically going to change it's foundations once you become taller. You will still find yourself in the therapy sessions.
Just today I watched a youtube vid of a plastic surgeon who said that he doesn't recommend people coming for operations if they are in an unstable, obsessed mental and emotional space. Work it out first, then come to the operation, because those people are statistically the ones who end up being happier with the changes.
Edit: Also maybe you will be incredibly happy with leg lengthening results eventually if all goes well with it all. Just really consider giving it some time and invest working on your inner issues first. That's an investment no-one will ever regret making. And honestly you're only 19. You seem quite aware for your age, and someone who wakes up to their inner work so young has incredible opportunity in their hands to make the best of their life.
Cringe af
1) You do experience problems with your height, whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better. If you get laid now, you'd get laid more if you were taller. If you have respect at work now, you'd have more if you were taller. If people like you now, they'd like you more if you were taller. You're being dragged down by a huge weight you can't even see as you don't have the view of your parallel life where you were 6ft 2.
2) Self improvement is just mental masturbation. OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller.
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on April 22, 2024, 10:00:22 AMCringe af
1) You do experience problems with your height, whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better. If you get laid now, you'd get laid more if you were taller. If you have respect at work now, you'd have more if you were taller. If people like you now, they'd like you more if you were taller. You're being dragged down by a huge weight you can't even see as you don't have the view of your parallel life where you were 6ft 2.
2) Self improvement is just mental masturbation. OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller.
Dude you remind me of some videos I've seen about suicide forums on internet. People ridicule anyone there who suggest maybe therapy would be a good idea. Anyone who suggests such a thing just "doesn't get it". Only thing that is mental masturbation here is the hopeless wallowing in misery because you're fking average height. Unbelievable.
"OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller." If someone's worst experience is waking up every morning and saying "hi" to little brother who is taller than him, it is 100% a problem in his head. This should be obvious because it is completely out of any reasonable proportion. People like you are not helping either.
"whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better" If you re-read my "cringy" post you'd see I said the same. I wish I was taller. But I'm not going to pretend that it's a bigger deal than it is. Some people are tall, some aren't. Some people are more rich, better looking, better hair, more charming, happier etc. Own the life you live. It's not mental masturbation when it's the only damn life you're going to live. Idiots who are DETERMINED to choose their miserable outlook on life while ridiculing others who don't, they deserve the perpetual unhappiness they're in. Own your life, do your work, stop bitching.
Yes height matters, but OP is freakin average height. It's definitely not the big deal he is making out of it, except in his head. Facts. He probably will get leg lengthening down the line, but I hope he works on his mental issues first.
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