Lengthening Amount Recommended

In terms of limits, even if one individual is different from another (and once again it's all relative), I couldn't agree more with Midnightninja: in the diaries here we have 2 examples: Wannabegiant and OldieButGoldie. 2 stories of succesful recovery and outcome. Why? The first lengthened about 4cm in the tibia, the second about 5cm in femurs. 4/5=0.80....These are the safe limits... all the others who have lengthened more than about 4cm in tibias and more than about 5cm in femurs have always reported something negative, if they don't have disappeared, in terms of new biomechanics, balance, proportions, dorsiflexion, etc.... but this is my opinion, you can disagree with me...of course if you do both segments you can do a bit more because you keep in balance the crural index....it's a personal choice, if you wanna do 10cm in 1 segment, do it, then post a pic of your new proportions and a video while running, please, so that it could help potential LLeners.

Kilo increased 6 cm and is well.

midnight,  i was actually told to  reply  to you by another member that actually had ll

wanna know what they said??  They agreed with me.  They will not post here, but I will

You have no idea of what you are talking about, and you seem a bit confused. First off, you don't know me, or anything about me. We have never spoken or met, and you don't know anyone that knows me.

I've met exactly 1 member from this forum, and it was not you

Your logic escapes me. I can't  tell others to make a mistake because I made a mistake???  Very interesting logic there.
You can make excuse after excuse, but that's because you're deluded

Do you realize I'm actually doing better than alot/ most?     people that  had the surgery.  You try to portray me as a bad case , when in actuality,  while I'm   not in the top 10%, I'm certainly not in the bottom 50%

I can walk without a limp, and have no pain... I actually did do pt, though pt does not do that much. It's 90+ % genetic.

Look at the diaries. Sweden has constant pain.  Rgkey  has  severe deformities.  One of paley's patients   suffered a severe fracture while lengthening. Other patients can not walk at all

These are  all facts which  no one can deny

Have you ever wondered  why almost no one posts videos??? How many  patients have posted videos of themselves  skipping down  stairs???

I could post a video now of myself walking, and say " hey guys, look at me, doing great"

No one would notice anything out of the ordinary, yet I refuse to lie to  potential patients.

If you think that  voluntarily breaking  healthy legs, then stretching them even 4 cm  will not impact your  functionality, then I put you in the same category as evolution deniers.

Quote from: midnightninja on November 16, 2016, 10:08:13 PMYou all need to ignore Crimson.

Crimson lengthened 7+cm in ONE SEGMENT.
He went to a bad doctor and he also did barely any physical therapy during his lengthening.

This surgery should be done at the best doctors, while in top pre-op physical shape.
You cannot blame and tell other people to rethink this surgery when you yourself did not think before getting it done.  7+cm in one segment is stupid and ridiculous especially in the tibias which we know the limit should be 4cm. You have no one but yourself to blame and should stop the bias posting.

I will agree with this post in 1 aspect

anyone thinking they can do 6 or more cm on tibias or femurs should be prepared for complications

I don't agree though that even 4 cm is safe.   My evidence is patients here that had severe complications before 4 cm

Is 4 cm safer? Yes. is it safe?. No

Quote from: apoxyomenos on November 16, 2016, 11:29:27 PMIn terms of limits, even if one individual is different from another (and once again it's all relative), I couldn't agree more with Midnightninja: in the diaries here we have 2 examples: Wannabegiant and OldieButGoldie. 2 stories of succesful recovery and outcome. Why? The first lengthened about 4cm in the tibia, the second about 5cm in femurs. 4/5=0.80....These are the safe limits... all the others who have lengthened more than about 4cm in tibias and more than about 5cm in femurs have always reported something negative, if they don't have disappeared, in terms of new biomechanics, balance, proportions, dorsiflexion, etc.... but this is my opinion, you can disagree with me...of course if you do both segments you can do a bit more because you keep in balance the crural index....it's a personal choice, if you wanna do 10cm in 1 segment, do it, then post a pic of your new proportions and a video while running, please, so that it could help potential LLeners.

RGKEY is probably the worst example since he did 9cm tibia lengthening....

Rgkey did a lot

swden did less, and I won't say names here, but others did  even less and suffered severe complications way before 6 cm

Depends also on the length of you tibia, is not the same a 180 cm person lengthening 6 cm than one of 150 cm lengthening the same, you shouldnt pass the 20 per cent of the lenght of the bone.

Thanks for your intellectual honesty Crimsontide.

What complications would you possibly have if u do just 4cm precice femur with a good DR? I can't see any problems happening unless a freak a accident occurs...

Onemorefoot, the 20% rule is a myth, a myth that has a meaning untill it remains enclosed in your mind dreaming about LL to justify your goals, but it doesn't apply to the individual, unique and unrepeatable reality of LL.
Consider for example Penguinn's femur length (sorry Penguin if I take your data as example, but in few diaries there are the right measures of the limbs) of 42,6cm...42,6*0.2=8,52cm....so what would this rule imply?...
Consider instead of not going too far from your original crural index for your new biomechanics, that you will experiment only at the end of the process, and about which before LL you have only an idea in your mind, even if this idea seems perfect to you....wait reality....