Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)

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I feel like this guy when he says "full recovery" he means like yeah you will be able to walk and what not but play physical and rigorous sports/activities? I'm not so sure about that. Honestly i would stop at 6cm and take the 2 n a half inch gain (which is a huge gain) no matter what this guy in a white coat says. He is still just a man playing the role of god and he has nothing to lose.

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Quote from: ItsMyLife on February 25, 2015, 05:41:25 PMFurther discussion with my doctor on Skype today. I asked about the possibility of me stopping at 6 cm and going back to do 3 cm femurs.

He insists that 8 cm tibia is not a problem and promises full recovery. He still insists I should not do femur surgery and do just the tibia.... (they do operate on femurs, externally)

I think (to play safe) and strike a more judicious balance (though it is still insane), I will do 7.5 Cm.

The fact that clinically I am doing very well without pain  and with good sleep.. I think supports my decision to do 7.5 cm in the face of overwhelming opinion to the contrary.

I think to do 7.5 cm and recover fully... it is a defensible (though may not be the best) choice?

I remember I had a talk with the Professor during my first visit. 5-6 cm is low risk. about 7-8 cm is moderate risk and (about) 9 cm to 10 cm is high risk.

actually 6 cm is the low end of medium risk thus why most who do 6 get away with it pretty well

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Could you ask your doctor for the specific reason they don't offer nailing or plating in cosmetic cases?

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QuoteCould you ask your doctor for the specific reason they don't offer nailing or plating in cosmetic cases?

probably the same reason kilokahns doctor pariah does not offer lon for cosmetic patients. (or at least if he can help it)

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Quote from: ForcedPuberty on February 25, 2015, 07:33:43 PMprobably the same reason kilokahns doctor pariah does not offer lon for cosmetic patients. (or at least if he can help it)

pariha.. you have been calling him pariah so many times. A pariah (if I recall my high school right) is a member of the lower caste in India.

Whats the reason??

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He doesn't wear a white coat, hes always In blue surgical scrub  Prof bagirov likes to wear a white coat though.

I have repeatedly emphasized to Dr Fahri and Prof Bagirov that I want to retain athletic ability and I play basketball competitively.... In fact, Fahri saw my school team jersey which I was wearing one day and asked if I love basketball a lot.

I have repeated to them before surgery and after surgery, at least 3-5 times. They were referring to recovery of full athletic abilities.

I think I have to take this game one step higher. Instead of accepting their words as golden gospel (they will not suffer much if I lose most of my abilities), I will start to ask them WHY I will not have any permanent impediments in athleticism. Is it due to their clinical experience? Is it due to my bone length? My athleticism itself? My smooth progress so far? Etc.

And yes. @taller I will ask why nailing is not done for CS patients.

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@Moose, can you tell me some members who had athletic function loss after 2 years? I think at the two year mark MDOW is the only one at 7.5. And he said he did not really train extra-hard, and probably he could have improved if he trained plyometrics. Sweden seems to have lost it too, but I think he is 1 year-ish post op? Goodfootballer can still play football but at a reduced level, how many years is he post-op? How much he lengthened and which method? Did he even train back his muscle strength and fast twitch fibres in his legs?

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Quotequote from someone:
I personally asked Dr. Lee what he thought about this (lengthening past 6 cm) and he has told me that from his experience in talking to former lengthening patients (2-3 years post recovery) those that only lengthened 5 cm recovered fully and their previous athleticism returned close to 100% to pre-LL levels. On the other hand, those who chose to lengthen between 6 and 7 centimeters recovered 100% in performing daily functions (walking, light jogging, etc), BUT only recovered about 60-70% of their pre-LL athleticism when engaging in serious sports/strenuous activities (full sprinting, jumping, basketball, rugby, etc..). Additionally, those that lengthened beyond 7 cm saw an ever greater decline in their previous athletic abilities.

ps. Sweden is 2 years post op.

ps. good footballer quit football.

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Quotepariha.. you have been calling him pariah so many times.
Whats the reason??

that's how my brain works. trust me you wouldn't care to understand. its not important. 

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how many cm did goodfootballer do and which method?and tibia/femur? doctor?