Limb Lengthening-Internal Femurs-Dr Rozbruch 2017

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Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on June 07, 2017, 10:01:13 PMI don't know where that comes from, never before have I read that difference in bone consolidation in any paper when I researched about LL. I think a lot of people here do hearsay, I want to know if what you say is the truth. Not only for me but for all limb lengtheners. What I know if that I've seen all my friends walking upstairs and sitting without crutches less than 1 month after lenghtening and returning to normal life 3 months after surgery.

I don't support Dr Guichet nor his decisions, but I had no shortage of money and I think I made the best decision. Say what you will but who of you started walking in 2 months and normally in 3 months? 1 month in a wheelchair is not a lot? For vain, height obsessed people it's not but for normal people it is a lot. The atrophy is not good for muscles especially after a certain age where myogenesis is at the lowest point.

Helloworld returned to normal (playing sports and jumping easily) at 5 months after lengthening with fitbone which is less weight bearing than precise.
So be in wheelchairs for 2 months (doing of course pt to avoid muscle weakness) is really nothing. After all if you walk when you are in the lengthening phase with internals you are in danger to fall down amd break the nail.
But yes, weight bearing from the begining is a benefit but not bigger than avoid pain and have a faster consolidation.

And from all x rays I've seen from albizzia users, the bone consolidation 4-5 months after surgery is much less than users of precise and fitbone. Maybe the weightbearing capability puts less pressure to bone when walking and that doesn't help consolidation.
I don't know the reason, but I know that with albizzia the consolidation is slower, thatcs a fact.
Furthermore, the way of clicking in albizzia makes it prone to accidental lengthening (see Unicorn's case) that can't happen with the other two nails.

Albizzia is outdated and that's why it is much cheaper than precise and fitbone.
I respect you a lot as an LL'er my friend but I don't think that you did the right choice of doctor if you had plenty of money.
Guichet is not the best choice of LL doctor at all, on the opposite I think for his money is the worse choice taking in mind that he uses an outdated nail, he makes his patients lengthen at a fast rate, he doesn't do IT band release (which causes no real problems and helps a lot to knee rom) and he is money greedy as we saw from Unicorn.
So you were lucky that everything went fine with your surgery but of course Guichet is not a good choice while for the same about money you can even go to Rozbruch or Paley which are absolutely the best choices right now for LL.

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Quote from: Body Builder on June 07, 2017, 11:18:29 PMHelloworld returned to normal (playing sports and jumping easily) at 5 months after lengthening with fitbone which is less weight bearing than precise.
So be in wheelchairs for 2 months (doing of course pt to avoid muscle weakness) is really nothing. After all if you walk when you are in the lengthening phase with internals you are in danger to fall down amd break the nail.
But yes, weight bearing from the begining is a benefit but not bigger than avoid pain and have a faster consolidation.

And from all x rays I've seen from albizzia users, the bone consolidation 4-5 months after surgery is much less than users of precise and fitbone. Maybe the weightbearing capability puts less pressure to bone when walking and that doesn't help consolidation.
I don't know the reason, but I know that with albizzia the consolidation is slower, thatcs a fact.
Furthermore, the way of clicking in albizzia makes it prone to accidental lengthening (see Unicorn's case) that can't happen with the other two nails.

Albizzia is outdated and that's why it is much cheaper than precise and fitbone.
I respect you a lot as an LL'er my friend but I don't think that you did the right choice of doctor if you had plenty of money.
Guichet is not the best choice of LL doctor at all, on the opposite I think for his money is the worse choice taking in mind that he uses an outdated nail, he makes his patients lengthen at a fast rate, he doesn't do IT band release (which causes no real problems and helps a lot to knee rom) and he is money greedy as we saw from Unicorn.
So you were lucky that everything went fine with your surgery but of course Guichet is not a good choice while for the same about money you can even go to Rozbruch or Paley which are absolutely the best choices right now for LL.

Again man, we have to agree to disagree on this one. Being in wheelchairs for 2 months is a HUGE deal for me and I think also for a lot of people (especially for those who are on their own). That's true you are in danger of falling but fortunately if you are careful you shouldn't have a big risk.

So what you were saying about faster consolidation is what you've seen from the diaries in the forums. Sorry if I say so, but I can't agree with you that consolidation with albizzia being slower is a fact until I see some reviews / publications comparing the nails. I can't just take your word for it. Later this week I'll research the topic and come back at you.

I have no love for Dr Guichet (because of Unicorn) as for any doctor, but I think for me it was the best choice. It was hard times, but I always kept my mobility, walked with crutches, zero days on a wheelchair and just after 2 months walking without crutches at all is a selling point to me. Of course I lengthened at conservative rate (the fastest I reached was around 1.3 mm for 2 weeks, then 1mm for another 2, then even slower 0.6 and 0.5 mm). I'm also glad I didn't do any IT release as I think it's unnecessary for 6 cm (I regained pre LL rom around the time I lengthened at 0.5mm). So if I could go back in time, for these reasons, I wouldn't choose differently.

So finally I'm not saying this is the case for all, but my recovery was much better than if I had gone to Rozbruch or Paley. Because who of the others can say they can walk at 2 months after surgery? So maybe it could have gone badly with me, but it didn't and because of this I recovered even better than people who go to the top doctors.

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What body builder is saying is that in the long term a faster consolidation will help you more than weight bearing faster. And the whole procedure is one big mind fk so being in a wheelchair if that happened from complications should not be making you so depressed.

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We've been cleared to walk ladies and gents. Rozbruch gave the thumbs up because consolidation really accelerated since we reached our goal a month ago.
It feels great to parade up and down the hallway unencumbered. My agent called me and asked how i was, when i told him i'm ready to get back to work, he told me he's lined up a few shoots. I'm going to ask for a weigh-in and re-measure. They'll notice the height has changed, but ultimately, they wont care.

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Would you be so kind and give a list what kind of medication you exactly took?
And did you experience side effects like hairloss?

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Quote from: axelf on July 05, 2017, 10:03:01 PMWould you be so kind and give a list what kind of medication you exactly took?
And did you experience side effects like hairloss?

Everything was over the counter except for the painkillers.
Vitamin c
Vitamin d
Calcium
Oxy

Thats basically it. And no, no hairloss lol

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Hi 6FeetSoon,

Are you going to post a picture of your proportions?

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I figured now that i'm out and walking around NYC, i'd give an update on the psychological aspect of all this.

Short answer: it's amazing.

On paper you know 8cm is a significant height increase, but to be out in a busy city and seeing how you stack up to everyone really adds an air of confidence. Honestly, i haven't stopped smiling. Macy's was super busy on saturday, i had to go there and restock my closet with pants that are the proper length. But the looks you get from the sales ladies at their make up booths trying to sell overpriced mascara to tourists, is flattering. They all sort of gaze up at you and smile. As you all know, i did this as a career move because ladies were always easy to come by, but the added benefit standing up here... yeah i wouldn't give it up for anything: a lovely added bonus.

So what do i think went so right in my procedure.

1) i was flexible, healthy and my starting bone length was sufficient that 8cm wasnt as daunting an amount as it might be for others
2) i stretched early and often post-op. Basically if i wasn't sleeping, i was stretching. All. The. Time.
3) i walked as often as possible with the walker. I really wanted to get my feet under me as soon as i was done, so i put a lot of pressure on myself to make sure i took 100-150 steps daily.
4) i took all the supplements and followed all doctors orders. I'm not the expert, he is, so why would i use my own judgment? Be smart.


Back to my excursions on saturday. I wasn't tired at all, and i was walking around for a good two hours. Again i think this is a result of walking a lot during the distraction process. Even when i was tired back then, i walked. Taking the subway is a more fun experience too. In such close quarters, it's annoying if during rush hour you're in a crowd of people breathing on you because they're all around your height. Now, the air is fresher nearer to the ceiling of the subway car lol.

First photo shoot is friday. Really happy to get my career going again at 6'0+.


-6FS

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Will you post a full body pic?

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on July 19, 2017, 05:06:54 PMWill you post a full body pic?

not gonna post in the thread, but if you really want to see, send me a pm and i'll send you a link.