Your starting situation is similar to mine.
I think in your case LL is the right decision.
Althought I only gain 5 cm, I would do it all over again.
I think you made a perfect decision for not going beyond the 5 cm mark because i doubt you will get a wonderful recovery like you got now
And i think you look perfect and proportions look good for me 185.5 cm is Cristiano CRonnie7 height lol
I'm big football fan 5 cm is huge jump from 180 cm
Just Google Cristiano CRonnie7 and James Rodriguez standing together And you will see the huge difference between 180 James and 185 CRonnie7 , i will never ever go beyond 5 cm actually 4 cm is my goal to get a good recovery and enjoy my life
I hope you will improve more because your dairy is impressive and please don't stop uploading good stuff here . peace
Quote from: happytofita on January 23, 2018, 06:44:25 AMHelloworld lol i know now why you did LL because i spent a lot of my time reading each post you have written
I have to a conclusion from my short journey here in this forum , that most people suffered complication
Did more than 5 cm like unicorn and Sweden for example I'm 177 cm but i will try to improve my back posture and my head posture if i can squeeze a 1 cm or 2 cm , i think i have posture but not very bad just a bit than normal
Im following your dairy and i will check your progress that going to motivate me more
If i got the resources and time and the willing i will do LL
My goal is to gain 4.cm no more
I will be 181 cm and if i managed to squeeze 1cm from my posture that will be good 181 cm to 182 cm is very good heigh for my , I'm not doing LL for girls absolutely no . from my experience i dated tall girls 180 cm, short girls, fat woman all type's the important aspect they really like is if you are good looking men , and i think im a good looking handsome olive skin 27 years old men with soft hair wide eyes , i have no problem dating any women
But i the problem is im the shortest men in my family my father is 189 cm my mom is tall 178 cm taller than me my brother 190 the youngest brother 18 is 185 cm tall my only sister is 178 the same height as my mom the same case as you i feel you men why you have gone through this torture
And the reason why i stayed 177 cm since 14 because i become addicted to drugs i fked up in school and life i barely eat i became a zombie
And i fought all this and quite all this since 2011 i never smoked drugs nor a cigarette nor even a beer
And the guilt is killing me because i fked up my height and my body , i can't leave with this guilt anymore that why im considering LL
Sorry if said some offensive inappropriate words
And forgive my poor English i started learning it mars 2017
I know how you feel bro... In my case I took accutane when I was 14-15 because of severe acne. My younger brother who also had severe acne decided not to take it. Well I stopped growing at 15 or 16 but he kept growing till 19 or so. I'm 175cm while he is 191-192cm. We are really alike in many genetical and phenotypical terms so Im pretty sure this drug stunt my growth. The saddest part is that my brother doesn't have worse skin than me, he recovered well from his teenager acne. I think nobody should treat their acne with drugs if he is a teen, its just a normal phase of your life. Doctors are ruining lifes prescribing this .
I feel angry, everyday of my life, towards the doctor who decided to give me this drug even if I was concerned about growth stunt and he denied it, and towards my father who is also a doctor and couldn't care about knowing what accutane is.
At least my father is willing to afford the price of LL with Monegal but... the only thing that restrains me from doing it is that I have a really big number of friends and it would be really weird... some of them would even be angry at me since they are also 170-175 and wouldn't understand why I need this. Just because they don't have a giant brother and a tall mother like me and an obvious reason for my final height...
What did you tell to your social circle, @helloworld ?
We have the same problem but with different circumstances , you blamed the doctor and i blame myself every day
If you can afford to do LL don't care about people what they may think about you , the most important thing is breaking your legs and going through the horrible torture of lenghtning and loosing your athletic ability and complications you may get from LL
I think helloworld didn't tell his family about the surgery
Please think carfuly even the best doctors can make you suffer
Guys you really have a problem that LL isn't going to fix. CLL is contraindicated in people suffering from BDD as you obviously are when you wish LL at 175 or above.
Quote from: backrandom on January 26, 2018, 12:09:36 AMGuys you really have a problem that LL isn't going to fix. CLL is contraindicated in people suffering from BDD as you obviously are when you wish LL at 175 or above.
I'm pretty sure I don't have BDD. Here in Spain I'm a bit under average height and that's a reality. The obsessive disorder is my height disphoria, I explained my reasons for that. I don't even feel very tiny outside, I just feel bad when I see my brother and my cousins who are all tall. My case is pretty similar to @helloworld... and I think I would be happy with just 5cm more to be average/a bit taller than average and not feel like a dwarf next to my brother.
BTW is very humilliating to hear people asking why is my brother so tall. Is a hard feeling to describe if you are not in a similar situation.
And ofc you can't just tell people about accutane stunting growth because they will laugh inside and think you're just a loser for blaming external things. But I'm 99% sure it was accutane, I had terrible bone pain when I was taking it and I was on a high dose.
But I agree with you, if someone has BDD probably shouldn't do this surgery. Actually I think nobody should do this surgery, not even me, but I can't help it.
Quote from: zantac20 on January 25, 2018, 12:26:03 PMI know how you feel bro... In my case I took accutane when I was 14-15 because of severe acne. My younger brother who also had severe acne decided not to take it. Well I stopped growing at 15 or 16 but he kept growing till 19 or so. I'm 175cm while he is 191-192cm. We are really alike in many genetical and phenotypical terms so Im pretty sure this drug stunt my growth. The saddest part is that my brother doesn't have worse skin than me, he recovered well from his teenager acne. I think nobody should treat their acne with drugs if he is a teen, its just a normal phase of your life. Doctors are ruining lifes prescribing this .
I feel angry, everyday of my life, towards the doctor who decided to give me this drug even if I was concerned about growth stunt and he denied it, and towards my father who is also a doctor and couldn't care about knowing what accutane is.
At least my father is willing to afford the price of LL with Monegal but... the only thing that restrains me from doing it is that I have a really big number of friends and it would be really weird... some of them would even be angry at me since they are also 170-175 and wouldn't understand why I need this. Just because they don't have a giant brother and a tall mother like me and an obvious reason for my final height...
What did you tell to your social circle, @helloworld ?
Interesting! My brother in law is around 1,95 and his brother around 1,75. When I asked about how such a big difference was possible my brother in law told me it might have to do with the fact that his brother had very bad acne and had to take medications.
No problem with social circle, so far as I made the adjustment gradually, wearing lifts before the surgery and no heel 5 finger shoes right after surgery before going to normal. So people did not notice, and when they did "you look taller!" nobody suspected anything.
Quote from: happytofita on January 25, 2018, 11:55:51 PMWe have the same problem but with different circumstances , you blamed the doctor and i blame myself every day
If you can afford to do LL don't care about people what they may think about you , the most important thing is breaking your legs and going through the horrible torture of lenghtning and loosing your athletic ability and complications you may get from LL
I think helloworld didn't tell his family about the surgery
Please think carfuly even the best doctors can make you suffer
Did not tell before I was almost recovered.
But once I told about it it was big relief that I could share this.
Quote from: backrandom on January 26, 2018, 12:09:36 AMGuys you really have a problem that LL isn't going to fix. CLL is contraindicated in people suffering from BDD as you obviously are when you wish LL at 175 or above.
I see it as a rational investment.
There are many costs and benefits associated with LL and I felt before it would be worth it, meaning more benefits than costs and I still feel that way after doing LL.
Quote from: helloworld on January 29, 2018, 10:57:23 AMI see it as a rational investment.
There are many costs and benefits associated with LL and I felt before it would be worth it, meaning more benefits than costs and I still feel that way after doing LL.
For you there were more benefits than costs but you should consider the cases of people who have wasted years of their lives, spent more than 100 or 200k due to complications and haven't yet recovered. RESPECT.
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