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Posted on Aug 23, 2020, 11:50 pm
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Quote from: dal216 on August 23, 2020, 11:02:17 PMI won’t argue with the post, seems like an uphill battle. The author of the bolded paragraph does however concede that wealthy “short men” are able to have sxx with hot women (motivations aside). Is that not the point? Does it bother you if a woman is bending over because of your money, attractiveness, height, fame, intelligence, or whatever?

Women are notoriously fluid in their perception of “attractiveness”  - straight girls routinely make out with other women for example. It’s fine to be a guy and work to better yourself for the sake of your CONFIDENCE, but to dwell on a woman’s motivations is rather effeminate in my opinion: “does she like me because I’m tall? Or my muscles? Or my dck? Etc.” What difference does it make?

If looking beyond multiple sxxual encounters then...Realistically women who are physical 10s are probably not the best wife material anyway regardless of your height; is the objective sxx or relationships? If it’s relationships well... even Hollywood stars (tall or otherwise) seem to have trouble keeping their 10s in check for long-term relationships. Or maybe I’m crazy

Fundamentally all romantic relationships are transactional so a woman is a literal pros ti tute in this regard because of the way we've evolved as human males and females. Men sxxually objectify women and women financially objectify men, a tale as old as time as the ancients knew this far better and were more realistic in these carnal matters.

Quote from: dal216 on August 23, 2020, 10:11:38 PMJust look at the Dobre brothers and the hot tail they pull... their listed heights are like 5’9 but they are def closer to 5’6 or 5’7 max:

https://images.app.goo.gl/4UXyfX913EW3agXN6 (the girl is 5’3)

Bottom line is women care about:
1. Money
2. Looks
3. Height

In that order. Forget your height, stack $$$ and I guarantee women will flow your way no matter how tall they are.

Unless you are very very very short or need the extra height for some other reason not involving women I’d invest in some lifting shoes and a Ferrari instead.

The problem is no one here is gonna become a millionaire solely to attract women, as there are crucial requisites to acquire wealth such as business acumen which entails a high IQ, being tall (5'11-6'4") increases your chances to assume leadership roles such as CEO of a company, attractive looks as all wealthy CEOs tend to be good looking (there are studies done on this). You require some sort of capital whether genetic or otherwise to get women whether to fk or marry.



Watch this for further clarification for why it's virtually impossible if you don't have any attractive qualities to began with.

The same pattern can be seen in our monkey cousins, contemporary hunter gatherer and tribal societies.

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Posted on Aug 24, 2020, 12:48 am
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Quote from: dal216 on August 23, 2020, 11:02:17 PMThe author of the bolded paragraph does however concede that wealthy “short men” are able to have sxx with hot women (motivations aside). Is that not the point?

No, that's not the point. If that was, why not just spend a few hundred bucks or less on prostitute and call it a day?

Quote from: dal216 on August 23, 2020, 11:02:17 PMDoes it bother you if a woman is bending over because of your money, attractiveness, height, fame, intelligence, or whatever?

Yes, that'd bother the hell out of me.

Quote from: dal216 on August 23, 2020, 11:02:17 PMWomen are notoriously fluid in their perception of “attractiveness”  - straight girls routinely make out with other women for example. It’s fine to be a guy and work to better yourself for the sake of your CONFIDENCE, but to dwell on a woman’s motivations is rather effeminate in my opinion: “does she like me because I’m tall? Or my muscles? Or my dck? Etc.” What difference does it make?

The difference is when a woman likes you because you are tall, muscled or well-endowed, she truly likes you whereas if she likes you because your money or fame, then she is not really attracted to you, but rather attracted to your money and status.
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Posted on Aug 24, 2020, 7:47 am
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Quote from: dal216 on August 23, 2020, 11:02:17 PMI won’t argue with the post, seems like an uphill battle. The author of the bolded paragraph does however concede that wealthy “short men” are able to have sxx with hot women (motivations aside). Is that not the point? Does it bother you if a woman is bending over because of your money, attractiveness, height, fame, intelligence, or whatever?

Money comes and goes (not permanent). Your height, attractiveness and inteligence are parts of who You are and will stay with you for the rest of your life.

So it's a question of does she like You or your money.
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Posted on Aug 24, 2020, 9:10 pm
#14
Lately, all I read on this forum is guys complaining about not getting women because of their height. Is this forum turning into a black pill community? Jordan Peterson said that women are great at pointing out things and thus making you insecure but come on. Before you get LL, I advise you to watch some YouTube videos about this topic. Stay clear of black pill videos. I recommend Better Bachelor.  After you are done you might reconsider wanting women at all let alone getting LL for them
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Posted on Aug 25, 2020, 7:31 am
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Quote from: Arrogance on August 24, 2020, 09:10:57 PMLately, all I read on this forum is guys complaining about not getting women because of their height. Is this forum turning into a black pill community? Jordan Peterson said that women are great at pointing out things and thus making you insecure but come on. Before you get LL, I advise you to watch some YouTube videos about this topic. Stay clear of black pill videos. I recommend Better Bachelor.  After you are done you might reconsider wanting women at all let alone getting LL for them

I think that LL is extreme (maybe Stryde-femurs with Paley on the 5-6cm range is the less crazy scenario but you need 120k+ $) and too expensive, but most people here don't want to become taller just for women. It is well known that women are obsessed with height and money, but what can you do.
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Posted on Aug 25, 2020, 10:35 am
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Quote from: O_99 on August 25, 2020, 07:31:08 AMIt is well known that women are obsessed with height and money, but what can you do.
SOME women are. Where I come from, height and money are not that important unless you’re really, really short or really, really poor. Facial attractiveness and personality are usually much more important. I’m sure there are cultural differences, though.
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Posted on Aug 25, 2020, 10:48 am
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Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on August 25, 2020, 10:35:10 AMSOME women are. Where I come from, height and money are not that important unless you’re really, really short or really, really poor. Facial attractiveness and personality are usually much more important. I’m sure there are cultural differences, though.

Actually, yeah, not all women.

But most are, generally speaking. Especially with height.
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Posted on Aug 25, 2020, 1:15 pm
#18
Quote from: O_99 on August 25, 2020, 10:48:20 AMActually, yeah, not all women.

But most are, generally speaking. Especially with height.

Again, this might not be equally applicable to all cultures. In Europe, height seems to be less important than, e.g., in the US—unless you’re really short, of course. For example, my dad is 176 cm and has a very attractive face and great hair. His brother is 188 cm but less attractive. My dad has always been popular with women, while my uncle has never had a girlfriend in his entire life (which is very unfortunate because he’s a great guy).
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Posted on Aug 25, 2020, 1:58 pm
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Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on August 25, 2020, 01:15:54 PMAgain, this might not be equally applicable to all cultures. In Europe, height seems to be less important than, e.g., in the US—unless you’re really short, of course. For example, my dad is 176 cm and has a very attractive face and great hair. His brother is 188 cm but less attractive. My dad has always been popular with women, while my uncle has never had a girlfriend in his entire life (which is very unfortunate because he’s a great guy).

I'm European and this just isn't the case. It varies from people to people, not so much from country to country.

176cm is a 'good' height if you are handsome, and it's normal height anyway, the obsession becomes clear below 5'8-5'7, and I imagine it feels noticeably worse from the 5'5, 5'4, 5'3, 5'2 guys' perspective.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2020, 7:24 am
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Quote from: F_99 on August 25, 2020, 01:58:17 PMI'm European and this just isn't the case. It varies from people to people, not so much from country to country.

176cm is a 'good' height if you are handsome, and it's normal height anyway, the obsession becomes clear below 5'8-5'7, and I imagine it feels noticeably worse from the 5'5, 5'4, 5'3, 5'2 guys' perspective.
It's not about culture s*t but human's nature.Being short is for sure for everybody to be discriminated so let's give up thoughts about Europeans discriminate short men less.
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