My journey - Dr. Betz April 2022

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Hope you are doing well ! I've been following and interacting with your posts for some time now; I have my surgery in February with Becker and payed everything, so there is nothing stoping this except if I decide to.
With all those treads talking bad stuff about betzbone, a little anxiety builds up, but journals like yours help me keep confident.
How are you feeling now ? mobility, pain ? Have you any regrets up until this point ? Do you consider that your life has improved ?

Thanks again you are a great motivation !

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Quote from: Oeconomo on January 05, 2024, 10:45:42 AMHope you are doing well ! I've been following and interacting with your posts for some time now; I have my surgery in February with Becker and payed everything, so there is nothing stoping this except if I decide to.
With all those treads talking bad stuff about betzbone, a little anxiety builds up, but journals like yours help me keep confident.
How are you feeling now ? mobility, pain ? Have you any regrets up until this point ? Do you consider that your life has improved ?

Thanks again you are a great motivation !

In the meantime I had the removal  as well and I am on a good way to get to the conditions I had before the removal surgery which was a more or less a fully recovery. Before the removal, I was able to do every sport, run, jump - well the only thing I was not able to do where squads due to my proportions I would have fallen back. Beside of that I felt like I never had done any surgery before. No muscle stiffness, pain or similar anymore.

I don´t know where this bull ting regarding betzbone is coming from. In fact it is currently the best nail in the market because it is weight bearing and already proven over a long time. Will see how the precise Max is going to be and if they got rid of the corrosion problems Stryde has, I would personally feel uncomfortable using it from the early beginning but that's just my personal 2 cents.

Every other nail might make sense if you go for "normaler" distances but, if you want to do longer lengthening you need to stick with a weight bearing nail. I don´t know how crippled I would get, if I would have been forced to be in a wheelchair the whole lengthening. Early and regular mobilization is the most important beside of stretching of course

So good luck with your surgery!

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Thank you for your reply, this is very helpful ! I fell relieved.
I am kind of in your situation: 163, hoping for 10, with a little anxiety about proportions but prioritizing height since I consider myself to be on the "too short" spectrum.
In your diary, there are several links to photos you've post, but all of them are 404 pages. Would it be possible to ask for some photos of before/after, in regard to proportions? It would be incredibly helpful since I'm starting at the same point.

Best regards !

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Will you do anything to address your wingspan being 18 cm shorter than your height? Admire your dedication!

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Quote from: bruhh on April 26, 2024, 08:52:23 AMWill you do anything to address your wingspan being 18 cm shorter than your height? Admire your dedication!

Indeed this was my only concern but right now I am at a difference of 14cm (I am at 175,5cm height at the moment) and so far I am totally fine. Will check it further and stop with the tibia lengthening before it start to look weird.

However, so far all people (doc, friends etc say that I could go for another couple of cm). One reason might be because i am not tiny  and have a good torso length which fits to a height of someone who is 178-180.

But I will not go for arm lengthening. For sure!

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Guys I just wanted to let you know, I am done with tibia LL. I ended up at 5cm and although it is just a couple of cm my leg proportions look much better and are now back to the "normal" range. My LBR is excellent, too. It was not an easy decision as when the end was coming closer I was indeed thinking of doing 5,5 or 6 cm to improve the ratio even more and be closer to the 180 but then my arms would start to look short, so I have decided with the doc to stop at 5. It is a shame because my body would accept much more I guess - the lengthening was quite ok until 5 cm - but it is not worth to push it too much. So finally, I have push it to the maximum my body proportion allow it and I am really happy with the result. Overall I have lengthened about 15,70cm and ended up at a proper 5´10 (177,8-178,3 cm)

What is different to the femur LL is that I have the feeling that the recovery goes much faster. I am already able to walk without crutches and normally, if I walk slowly and concentrate myself. I do this just at home and in the gym but outside I am still strictly using crutches which looks weird to other people as they do not see why I am using them 

Can´t wait until I can drop them off at all and live my life like before - just taller 

 

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So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.

Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.

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Quote from: AnotherLLer on July 13, 2024, 08:26:39 PMSo, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.

Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.

I look good my body length 88,5 fits perfect to my new leg length (89cm). Just my ape index ist weird from a number perspective. I was unsure before as well how this is going to look like but everyone who see me now gives me compliments. Maybe it does not look off because I am not the tiny guy who have some muscles. On the other hand there is some research around attractiveness and ratios and the arm is the most unimportant one. Of course I would be even better with 8cm longer arms but as said nobody notice anything negative re my arm length.

So I would do it again, if I would be 162 with mini legs and normal torso.

Proportions are important but should be taken too precise. The range of natural human looks is wide.

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Quote from: AnotherLLer on July 13, 2024, 08:26:39 PMSo, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.

Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.

… with3-4 cm heels it is slowly starting to look unusual. So I am not wearing my airmax anymore but normal sneakers/shoes which have heels usually around 2-2,5cm are fine. Of course barfeet it looks the best.

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I understand that you had no room to match your wingspan post-lengthening as it was already an inch shorter compared to your starting height but 6 inches of lengthening is kinda too much anyways, disregarding the armspan factor.