Permanent effects of LL

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Posted on Jan 23, 2016, 6:33 pm

#141

I've seen most people having some kind of complications even with the best doctors. LL is no joke.
If you go to ty doctor the higher your chances are of getting complications.

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Posted on Jan 24, 2016, 1:48 am

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It's now been 3 years since I did my first operation(frames on, nail in legs).

Today I have X-legs which affects my walking and running to the point my back hurts insanely in some evenings. I even broke my foot bc of it(lower part of tibia around the foot). It has healed very bad and actually hurts every single day if I don't do drugs like an addict.

My muscles are like 45% of what they used to be on my thighs. My calfs have totally exploded in hyper trophy to the point where it's difficult to pull over most jeans around them and then they're loose around the thighs.

There is a constant stretch in my calfs and ankles when I stand up straight and standing up for a long time hurts my back.

I'm slow in my body as an old man(I'm 30+).

Running is ALWAYS very difficult and it's not something I just do even if I need to(like catch the train or stuff like that)

I can jump up to 40-50% of what I used to be able to.

Jumping from one leg is close to impossible.

Sometimes my calfs get cramps and I need to point with my feet(like standing on toes).

My knees ache a little every morning and when I stand up from sitting down.

I can barely sit down on the ground anymore in any position bc then I fall back. My back muscles are too short.

If I sit more than 30 seconds on my knees I can almost not get up by myself. And some days it's impossible to sit on my knees.

My shins are just too long. It doesn't look natural - especially when I sit on my knees. Heels almost stick out from my butt then.

When I do the splits, which I still can on a good day, I can't grab on to my feet bc my legs are too long for my arms. It's BEYOND unnatural. Every gymnast can grab their feet - but me. And it's bc I can't reach them anymore. It looks W E I R D !!!

Standing up I can't reach my feet. It's also unnatural. Sure, some days I can, but not easy - like before.

My stamina is like a 60-year old.

Doing properly squats is very dangerous for my back bc my total biomechanics are changed and altered. I have to do it in the machines. But I'm still strong in my legs compared to most people.

If anything touches the lower screws in my tibias I want to die bc of the pain it gives for one second.

Don't do more than 5cm on tibias god damn it!!!!!!

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My doctor measured me last week. I was 179,5cm tall. It felt good. I asked for the checkup I did with him back in 2011 and checked my height. It said 173cm tall.
He didn't notice by the way......

The fact that I'm now around average is actually very satisfactory for me. I went to India, sure, but I got the height. No question about it.
The one thing that bothers me the most is my broken foot. Everything else is tolerable and right before I broke my foot I ran 10km in 55 minutes.

I haven't started working yet. I'm still in school and will do so until June 2017. Hopefully after that I will get a very good office job where I can relax my destroyed body, my new destroyed TALL body.

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It's now been 3 years since I did my first operation(frames on, nail in legs).

Today I have X-legs which affects my walking and running to the point my back hurts insanely in some evenings. I even broke my foot bc of it(lower part of tibia around the foot). It has healed very bad and actually hurts every single day if I don't do drugs like an addict.

My muscles are like 45% of what they used to be on my thighs. My calfs have totally exploded in hyper trophy to the point where it's difficult to pull over most jeans around them and then they're loose around the thighs.

There is a constant stretch in my calfs and ankles when I stand up straight and standing up for a long time hurts my back.

I'm slow in my body as an old man(I'm 30+).

Running is ALWAYS very difficult and it's not something I just do even if I need to(like catch the train or stuff like that)

I can jump up to 40-50% of what I used to be able to.

Jumping from one leg is close to impossible.

Sometimes my calfs get cramps and I need to point with my feet(like standing on toes).

My knees ache a little every morning and when I stand up from sitting down.

I can barely sit down on the ground anymore in any position bc then I fall back. My back muscles are too short.

If I sit more than 30 seconds on my knees I can almost not get up by myself. And some days it's impossible to sit on my knees.

My shins are just too long. It doesn't look natural - especially when I sit on my knees. Heels almost stick out from my butt then.

When I do the splits, which I still can on a good day, I can't grab on to my feet bc my legs are too long for my arms. It's BEYOND unnatural. Every gymnast can grab their feet - but me. And it's bc I can't reach them anymore. It looks W E I R D !!!

Standing up I can't reach my feet. It's also unnatural. Sure, some days I can, but not easy - like before.

My stamina is like a 60-year old.

Doing properly squats is very dangerous for my back bc my total biomechanics are changed and altered. I have to do it in the machines. But I'm still strong in my legs compared to most people.

If anything touches the lower screws in my tibias I want to die bc of the pain it gives for one second.

Don't do more than 5cm on tibias god damn it!!!!!!

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My doctor measured me last week. I was 179,5cm tall. It felt good. I asked for the checkup I did with him back in 2011 and checked my height. It said 173cm tall.
He didn't notice by the way......

The fact that I'm now around average is actually very satisfactory for me. I went to India, sure, but I got the height. No question about it.
The one thing that bothers me the most is my broken foot. Everything else is tolerable and right before I broke my foot I ran 10km in 55 minutes.

I haven't started working yet. I'm still in school and will do so until June 2017. Hopefully after that I will get a very good office job where I can relax my destroyed body, my new destroyed TALL body.

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Tiny

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Posted on Jan 24, 2016, 2:56 am

#143

How much did you lengthen in total? Do you regret doing it?

Quote from: Sweden on January 24, 2016, 01:48:50 AMIt's now been 3 years since I did my first operation(frames on, nail in legs).

Today I have X-legs which affects my walking and running to the point my back hurts insanely in some evenings. I even broke my foot bc of it(lower part of tibia around the foot). It has healed very bad and actually hurts every single day if I don't do drugs like an addict.

My muscles are like 45% of what they used to be on my thighs. My calfs have totally exploded in hyper trophy to the point where it's difficult to pull over most jeans around them and then they're loose around the thighs.

There is a constant stretch in my calfs and ankles when I stand up straight and standing up for a long time hurts my back.

I'm slow in my body as an old man(I'm 30+).

Running is ALWAYS very difficult and it's not something I just do even if I need to(like catch the train or stuff like that)

I can jump up to 40-50% of what I used to be able to.

Jumping from one leg is close to impossible.

Sometimes my calfs get cramps and I need to point with my feet(like standing on toes).

My knees ache a little every morning and when I stand up from sitting down.

I can barely sit down on the ground anymore in any position bc then I fall back. My back muscles are too short.

If I sit more than 30 seconds on my knees I can almost not get up by myself. And some days it's impossible to sit on my knees.

My shins are just too long. It doesn't look natural - especially when I sit on my knees. Heels almost stick out from my butt then.

When I do the splits, which I still can on a good day, I can't grab on to my feet bc my legs are too long for my arms. It's BEYOND unnatural. Every gymnast can grab their feet - but me. And it's bc I can't reach them anymore. It looks W E I R D !!!

Standing up I can't reach my feet. It's also unnatural. Sure, some days I can, but not easy - like before.

My stamina is like a 60-year old.

Doing properly squats is very dangerous for my back bc my total biomechanics are changed and altered. I have to do it in the machines. But I'm still strong in my legs compared to most people.

If anything touches the lower screws in my tibias I want to die bc of the pain it gives for one second.

Don't do more than 5cm on tibias god damn it!!!!!!

------------------

My doctor measured me last week. I was 179,5cm tall. It felt good. I asked for the checkup I did with him back in 2011 and checked my height. It said 173cm tall.
He didn't notice by the way......

The fact that I'm now around average is actually very satisfactory for me. I went to India, sure, but I got the height. No question about it.
The one thing that bothers me the most is my broken foot. Everything else is tolerable and right before I broke my foot I ran 10km in 55 minutes.

I haven't started working yet. I'm still in school and will do so until June 2017. Hopefully after that I will get a very good office job where I can relax my destroyed body, my new destroyed TALL body.

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How much did you lengthen in total? Do you regret doing it?

Quote from: Sweden on January 24, 2016, 01:48:50 AMIt's now been 3 years since I did my first operation(frames on, nail in legs).

Today I have X-legs which affects my walking and running to the point my back hurts insanely in some evenings. I even broke my foot bc of it(lower part of tibia around the foot). It has healed very bad and actually hurts every single day if I don't do drugs like an addict.

My muscles are like 45% of what they used to be on my thighs. My calfs have totally exploded in hyper trophy to the point where it's difficult to pull over most jeans around them and then they're loose around the thighs.

There is a constant stretch in my calfs and ankles when I stand up straight and standing up for a long time hurts my back.

I'm slow in my body as an old man(I'm 30+).

Running is ALWAYS very difficult and it's not something I just do even if I need to(like catch the train or stuff like that)

I can jump up to 40-50% of what I used to be able to.

Jumping from one leg is close to impossible.

Sometimes my calfs get cramps and I need to point with my feet(like standing on toes).

My knees ache a little every morning and when I stand up from sitting down.

I can barely sit down on the ground anymore in any position bc then I fall back. My back muscles are too short.

If I sit more than 30 seconds on my knees I can almost not get up by myself. And some days it's impossible to sit on my knees.

My shins are just too long. It doesn't look natural - especially when I sit on my knees. Heels almost stick out from my butt then.

When I do the splits, which I still can on a good day, I can't grab on to my feet bc my legs are too long for my arms. It's BEYOND unnatural. Every gymnast can grab their feet - but me. And it's bc I can't reach them anymore. It looks W E I R D !!!

Standing up I can't reach my feet. It's also unnatural. Sure, some days I can, but not easy - like before.

My stamina is like a 60-year old.

Doing properly squats is very dangerous for my back bc my total biomechanics are changed and altered. I have to do it in the machines. But I'm still strong in my legs compared to most people.

If anything touches the lower screws in my tibias I want to die bc of the pain it gives for one second.

Don't do more than 5cm on tibias god damn it!!!!!!

------------------

My doctor measured me last week. I was 179,5cm tall. It felt good. I asked for the checkup I did with him back in 2011 and checked my height. It said 173cm tall.
He didn't notice by the way......

The fact that I'm now around average is actually very satisfactory for me. I went to India, sure, but I got the height. No question about it.
The one thing that bothers me the most is my broken foot. Everything else is tolerable and right before I broke my foot I ran 10km in 55 minutes.

I haven't started working yet. I'm still in school and will do so until June 2017. Hopefully after that I will get a very good office job where I can relax my destroyed body, my new destroyed TALL body.

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Posted on Jan 24, 2016, 6:59 am

#144

Respect to Sweden where its due. For the newbies although the permanent decrease in athleticism is better known now he was warning people about doing over 5cm years ago when it was common to see diaries of guys doing 7,8 even 9 cm on tibia!

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Posted on Jan 24, 2016, 7:18 am

#145

Quote from: theuprising on January 24, 2016, 06:59:53 AMRespect to Sweden where its due. For the newbies although the permanent decrease in athleticism is better known now he was warning people about doing over 5cm years ago when it was common to see diaries of guys doing 7,8 even 9 cm on tibia!

Yet we still see people doing 7-9 cms on femurs, which is in no way better. The biomechanics are changed anyways and squatting is much harder with longer femurs.

Thanks for being honest, Sweden. Even for me it's a good read. However, I believe most of your negative effects come from complications namely x-legs and broken foot, the later isn't even related to LL. If you get to fix your foot and x-legs and remove the rod, you should feel much better I think.

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Posted on Jan 24, 2016, 10:41 am

#146

It's not very painful. Just daily difficulties.

I regret going past my goal of 6cm. I went for 7cm bc the other guys looked good even after doing 8cm.

It will be impossible to fix my X-legs and the foot. The foot has already healed improperly and it's the femurs that are twisted which causes the X-legs.

LL will fk your body up.

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Posted on Jan 24, 2016, 12:25 pm

#147

if time is reverse before you did ll, will you do ll again? if yes, how many cm

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Posted on Jan 26, 2016, 5:41 am

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Quote from: theuprising on January 24, 2016, 06:59:53 AMRespect to Sweden where its due. For the newbies although the permanent decrease in athleticism is better known now he was warning people about doing over 5cm years ago when it was common to see diaries of guys doing 7,8 even 9 cm on tibia!

Nothing but respect for Sweden & his honesty.

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Posted on Jan 26, 2016, 11:04 am

#149

I understand when people who are perhaps only 150cm want to be 170 cm and not 160 cm, which is still short. But it does not help if you risk very serious complications with every inch more.

Diaries are always mentioned here and many users are really afraid because of negative reports of other patients. But in my opinion you must not overlook one thing. If everything went well, you are not so motivated to register to a forum and share your story with the world as if something went wrong because then you are pissed of and disappointed and want to warn other people! So its very important to get to know patients with limb lengthening procedures who had bad experiences and find out what went wrong. I appreciate that these patients share their information with us. Such diaries have to be taken very seriously but perhaps, been weighted too heavily. I am convinced that there are also many happy, satisfied but unknown patients with successful surgeries and recoveries of whom we know nothing because they never write and tell a word about their cases.

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Posted on Jan 26, 2016, 11:42 am

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^There are a number of diaries which begin *before* the day of surgery, or very close to it.

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