Permanent effects of LL

Thanks for this. I have to risk the possible permanent knee pain of LON/LATN since I just don't have the time to do external. It's nice to have an idea of what sort of permanent pain I risk getting a rod put in.

I can't sit on my knees either on a hard surface. It hurts too much.

I'm just home from Taekwondo class and my knees feel sore on the inside bc I jumped a lot.
My ankles hurt on the inside too.
It's terrible.
I think I ruined my life. I can't do   actually.

I'm going to try and do a video this Thursday or tomorrow. Then I'll show you how fast I am and how explosive I can be.

I was the greatest in my town and I ruined it for ~6cm of height. What the hell did I do to myself?

Quote from: Sweden on January 28, 2014, 08:50:05 PMI can't sit on my knees either on a hard surface. It hurts too much.

I'm just home from Taekwondo class and my knees feel sore on the inside bc I jumped a lot.
My ankles hurt on the inside too.
It's terrible.
I think I ruined my life. I can't do s**t actually.

I'm going to try and do a video this Thursday or tomorrow. Then I'll show you how fast I am and how explosive I can be.

I was the greatest in my town and I ruined it for ~6cm of height. What the hell did I do to myself?

Sweden think about it this way if you can:

You are in your mid thirties right? then your athletic prime would soon be over, you have already accomplished more than most people do in terms of sports. So when you eventually stop doing taekwondo those 6 cm will benefit you more than they hurt hopefully. Of course this is assuming the pain issues keep improving.

I know many people who have problems with their knees and legs without having done any LL, their problems come from small injuries and because they are lazy. Its pretty normal. They cannot play sports at a high level because of this but they are happy with their life anyway.

I almost view this as a positive influence on my life (the knee pain).  Whenever I don't feel like working out I remember the knees and the LL and being short.  I already made this tradeoff, I already got my new height, so now I have to pay for it every day with a workout.  There is no going back on the deal.

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on January 29, 2014, 01:25:44 AMI almost view this as a positive influence on my life (the knee pain).  Whenever I don't feel like working out I remember the knees and the LL and being short.  I already made this tradeoff, I already got my new height, so now I have to pay for it every day with a workout.  There is no going back on the deal.

Thats probably the best way to handle a problem like that, im impressed 

Do you workout everyday because your ll? I am sorry I don't understand what you mean are you still recovering?

My knees are much better. I barely feel them at all.
I can even sit on them on a hard surface but I prefer not to.

Sitting still for an hour or so makes them sore and it takes a while to get them going again, like 5-6 strides.

Running is no problem either for the knees.

Some days they can ache a little and others it's nothing at all.
If I'm up and going I don't feel any ache at all.

I want to renew the discussion of permanent effects because I think people on here are too optimistic -naive- even about what this surgery means. The general consensus seems to be: "I'tll be tough but I'm going to get through it and then I'll enjoy being tall for the rest of my life -who cares about muscle stiffness or knee pain I was never into sports anyway."

Not only will this mindset lead to a rude awekening but it can be outright dangerous as stated in this thread: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=680.0

Limb lenghtening is dangerous, it can even be life-threatening here are a number of common complications that can occour. Each one is quite unlikely but altogether there is a very real chance that one or more of these will happen to you:

Quote- nerve damage (numbness, altered sensation, painful supersensitivity (from neuromas formations),
- paralysis, or reduced motor function or response times, especially in high level sports);
- pain and stiffness from internal trauma and scarring;
- bio mechanical load changes and it's added load stresses on joints (back, hip, knees, and ankles) leading to pain and possible early Arthritis
- reduced Athletic response time and abilities;
- permanent muscle / adipose tissue damage / atrophy; mobility issues; reduced agility;
- osteoporosis and increased chances of osteochonral lesions;
- lingering aches and pains months or years, or even a lifetime after the lengthening is complete and you say Good Bye to your CLL doctor.etc."

The scary part is that this can happen to anyone regardless if you pay a million euros or 5 thousand. It has happened in Germany and the US so we aren't safe just because we go with a respected surgeon.

Even if you make it through unscathed you will never recover fully -well you might if you only do 2CM but then what's the point?
No you will have hurt your body in a very real sense and in such a way that no doctor can ever fix it. I know a lot of you might think that you can deal with some issues and that it's a worthy trade-off for that extra height but will you think that 6 years from now, or 10? -Remember this is forever it can't be undone.

Some of us think it's possible to recover completely -100%- you're just as good as you were and you've still got all the potential you once had- Well maybe it can be done afterall Shyshy says he had but for every success story there are three other like Sweden who feels he has destroyed his body and replaced it with regret -and for everone of him there are five other diaries who just end abruptly with no follow-up and it gets moved to the back of the list never mentioned again.

What happens to these people? I like to think the just move on with their life and forget the whole thing but who can say. If you fell into a depression because you now move like a 60-year old or people avoid you because you look like a freak or worst case scenario you've lost a leg -would you really continue to update your thread on a small internet forum?

These things worry me because even though I am tall by this sites standard I don't see a very happy future for me at this height and yet what if I do this surgery and I regret it? I don't have a bad life but it needs improvement in this one area -the question is: is it worth the risks and can I deal with the effects?

Guys, can we really live a life like someone who was naturally tall after LL or will we always be a bit damaged, always be slightly crippled and always a bit of an abomination?

And an addition: maybe I'm not the one to talk but you guys that are 183CM or above you've already got a respectable height are you reall certain this is all worth it? I know I wouldn't do it if I were 185CM.

OK. you win.. Everybody that was about to do this surgery. Cancel it.

You are talking to deaf ears. It does not matter. Is like when your hungry. You might put it off for sometime. But you will eat inevitably orelse you die inside.

But this is serious it's a life altering decision. I refuse to believe people on here don't want to discuss stuff like this -it's more important than all the pointless arguments about girls and threads about what women care about. We can go to a relationships forum for that crap this site is supposed to be about discussing the surgery.