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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 2:57 am
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Quote from: ItsMyLife on January 13, 2015, 01:05:24 AMwas it 8 cm taking into account any pin bending?

apparently some people lose 3-5 mm.

please do let us know if you can still run..problems with nerve injury has been documented by paley et  al, the common peroneal nerve.. which may result in delayed athletic response times,etc

Went with internal femurs.
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 3:16 am
#72
Quote from: 123 on January 12, 2015, 10:58:15 PMI won't tell you the name of my doc because privacy reason and even if I did, he doesn't do LL on people above 160cm, I was a rare exception. My tip would be not to do it at all but I think I told you that a few times  Permanent effects of LL

But I want to help you, so just choose your doc carefully, there isn't really something else you can do, you will be completely depended on him. So don't to India, Russia or whatever. Do it in Sweden, go to your nearest hospital and arrange a date with an orthopedic and talk with him. He will be happy to help, maybe you get lucky like I did and he will do it on you and if not, you can ask him all the questions instead of wasting your time on this forum talking to incompetent people. Or ask your personal doc for the best leg deformity surgeon in your area and that you want to talk to him or with some orthopedics about LL, just do it like I did. No need to be ashamed of that, do that or you will end up somewhere in India and you will regret LL for the rest of your life.

whats the name of the doctor who did your surgery? /pm
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 3:30 am
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Quote from: Uppland on January 13, 2015, 02:04:06 AM@123 That is actually great advice, I'll admit I am a bit nervous of how the doctor will react -he certainly will not perform the operation on me as it is illegal for cosmetic reasons here but whatever he could tell me helps thanks for the tip.

@crimsontide I'm sorry but what do you mean with "ok" I have accepted that the surgery may be with me my whole life but I couldn't accept not being able to do stuff like climbing mountains, running long distances, skiing on steep slopes etc. That would make me feel cippled even if I technically wasn't. So that's what I'm really worried about.

Of course I would do everything in my power to recover best I could. I'll start stretching tomorrow actually -as soon as I learn what kind of stretches I should do. Does anyone know?

how long are u post-op? and how many months post frame removal?
once u can do contact sports, try plyometrics.... it builds up muscle reaction times, speed and power....
but i just read disturbing information from paley et al that nerve damage might result in slow reaction times for the muscles..
very disturbing
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 12:28 pm
#74
Quote from: 123 on January 12, 2015, 10:58:15 PMI won't tell you the name of my doc because privacy reason and even if I did, he doesn't do LL on people above 160cm, I was a rare exception. My tip would be not to do it at all but I think I told you that a few times  Permanent effects of LL

But I want to help you, so just choose your doc carefully, there isn't really something else you can do, you will be completely depended on him. So don't to India, Russia or whatever. Do it in Sweden, go to your nearest hospital and arrange a date with an orthopedic and talk with him. He will be happy to help, maybe you get lucky like I did and he will do it on you and if not, you can ask him all the questions instead of wasting your time on this forum talking to incompetent people. Or ask your personal doc for the best leg deformity surgeon in your area and that you want to talk to him or with some orthopedics about LL, just do it like I did. No need to be ashamed of that, do that or you will end up somewhere in India and you will regret LL for the rest of your life.


are you the same 12345 in the old forum ?
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 2:02 pm
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Quote from: Disobedient on January 13, 2015, 12:28:47 PM
are you the same 12345 in the old forum ?

No.
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 4:33 pm
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I doubt there are any long-term effects from ll with a good doctor, safe protocols, etc. The little research that exists in area of cosmetic ll seems to show that there are few-to-no long-term effects of the procedure. As for Sweden, it's important to remember that he got his surgery with Dr. Sarin the butcher.
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 6:53 pm
#77
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 13, 2015, 04:33:56 PMI doubt there are any long-term effects from ll with a good doctor, safe protocols, etc. The little research that exists in area of cosmetic ll seems to show that there are few-to-no long-term effects of the procedure. As for Sweden, it's important to remember that he got his surgery with Dr. Sarin the butcher.

Well that is true but I also feel like it's the norm on this forum to gloss over the real negative and focusing on the gain. It's a coping strategy I understand but I don't want us to ever get to the point where we ignore serious concerns like motor function, nerve damage, permanent pain etc.

It does happen: Medium Drink has knee pain and reduced fatigue maybe nothing too serious but it will still be with him for the rest of his life. Sweden has reduced motor function and agility -he had a bad experience sure but those can happen with all doctors. I'm sure Sweden walked into Dr Sarins office thinking he was in safe hands.

Some of the brightest diaries like OBG's feauture videos that show him moving seemingly like normal and yet he says he only regained 75-80% of his running ability after two years -he did 6CM internal femur and is considered one of the more successful ones.

This is a life altering surgery -hopefully for the better but I, at least, want to be very clear about what I'm walking in to before I go for it.
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 7:14 pm
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Quote from: Uppland on January 13, 2015, 06:53:14 PMWell that is true but I also feel like it's the norm on this forum to gloss over the real negative and focusing on the gain. It's a coping strategy I understand but I don't want us to ever get to the point where we ignore serious concerns like motor function, nerve damage, permanent pain etc.

It does happen: Medium Drink has knee pain and reduced fatigue maybe nothing too serious but it will still be with him for the rest of his life. Sweden has reduced motor function and agility -he had a bad experience sure but those can happen with all doctors. I'm sure Sweden walked into Dr Sarins office thinking he was in safe hands.

Some of the brightest diaries like OBG's feauture videos that show him moving seemingly like normal and yet he says he only regained 75-80% of his running ability after two years -he did 6CM internal femur and is considered one of the more successful ones.

This is a life altering surgery -hopefully for the better but I, at least, want to be very clear about what I'm walking in to before I go for it.

80 percent is not that bad, but both did 7 cm which is maybe too much, especially for tibia.
I hope there will be more people who will do 4 or 5 cm, this is what i'm aiming for, so i need to know if it's safer or not.
And oldiebutgoldie has not updated his diary for 4 months, i hope he will catches us up on his recovery
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 7:28 pm
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Quote from: programdude on January 13, 2015, 12:35:58 AMLooking forward to weighing in as I recover.

Having done 8 CM, I can say for starters that my fully healed legs leg press and movements feel great.

My only issue is some pain in lower left leg and rather tight hip flexors with duckass, both of which should likely be resolved soon.

I'm really happy for you, man! To be almost fully recovered after only about four months and 8 cm is fantastic!
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Posted on Jan 13, 2015, 7:35 pm
#80
There is nothing to say that Medium Drink's knee pain actually comes from the surgery. There could be other factors at work.

Sweden also entire with Dr. Sarin, whom is the worst excuse for an ll doctor that these forums have ever seen.

OBG says his running speed is back up to "90% compared to before", and that was before his rods were removed about three months ago. It's also important to remember that he wasn't a young man in the prime of his life; he was 45, so recovering from surgeries is naturally going to be a little harder.

The research amongst young peoples whom get cosmetic ll, 20s to 30s, seems to show no long-term side effects/impairments.
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