Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on December 06, 2014, 08:53:47 PMYes right. I'm aware anything is possible and there is a price to pay for altering the anatomy of your body. The way he said it made it sound like the chances were greater with him that's all.
What are the odds of losing a limb and death (from the mental anguish or severe pain)
and has they're been any reports of them from any ll patient or forum? Also, is it more likely this would happen on exceeding 5 cms or 7.5 cms or even below 5cms?
I have read a lot if diaries and articles about LL the last couple of years but I haven't read any personal accounts of amputation. There are a lot of unfinished diaries and LLers that seem to disappear. That always concerns me and I think about the bad things that may have happened to them.
Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on December 06, 2014, 08:53:47 PMYes right. I'm aware anything is possible and there is a price to pay for altering the anatomy of your body. The way he said it made it sound like the chances were greater with him that's all.
What are the odds of losing a limb and death (from the mental anguish or severe pain)
and has they're been any reports of them from any ll patient or forum? Also, is it more likely this would happen on exceeding 5 cms or 7.5 cms or even below 5cms?
That can happen quite fast, it doesn't really matter how much you lengthen, a bone infection can always happen and if the antibiotics won't work and the OP is not a success an amputation is the last possible way to save you from death. Also a deep vein thrombosis, which can cause a pulmonary embolism, can kill you, that happens quite often.
Quote from: 123 on December 06, 2014, 10:17:47 PMThat can happen quite fast, it doesn't really matter how much you lengthen, a bone infection can always happen and if the antibiotics won't work and the OP is not a success an amputation is the last possible way to save you from death. Also a deep vein thrombosis, which can cause a pulmonary embolism, can kill you, that happens quite often.
Yeah. I can just imagine something went wrong with the unfinished Mahboubian Diary on here Such a sleazy doctor.
There has never been a case of amputation with ll. I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm very scare word"amputation" 
Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on December 06, 2014, 08:53:47 PMYes right. I'm aware anything is possible and there is a price to pay for altering the anatomy of your body. The way he said it made it sound like the chances were greater with him that's all.
What are the odds of losing a limb and death (from the mental anguish or severe pain)
and has they're been any reports of them from any ll patient or forum? Also, is it more likely this would happen on exceeding 5 cms or 7.5 cms or even below 5cms?
Chances of amputation or death is very slim to zero with a good surgeon. Deep infection, embolism and compartment syndrome can happen regardless of how much you lengthen, the latter two mostly happens after surgery. Non-union could be multifactorial and nerve damage could happen with higher lengthening amount. There have not been any reported amputation cases in forum patient diaries but I have read studies that exclude some patients from the study because their outcome was amputation. They don't state the reason why they were amputated but these patients did have pre-existing trauma before fixation and some resulted in osteomyelitis and non-union. Compartment syndrome, complex non-union and osteomyelitis resulting to amputation have been reported in studies.
Just remember that these are worst possible outcomes to LL, although rare with a good surgeon. Judging from some of the posts in this forum, it seems that some prospective LL'ers take this surgery very lightly and believe that they're immune to very serious complications. It's not a good idea to be overconfident. You must consider and accept the worst case scenario before LL. A forum member did experience a life threatening condition a day after his surgery and he immediately had to be shifted to the ICU unit, despite having surgery with the best. His experience was horrifying and seriously made me reconsider LL. It was an eye opener. I believe that majority of serious complications related to LL will not be reported in LL forums and only a very few percent of LL patients do have diaries.
Quote from: TheRisingShorty on December 07, 2014, 06:29:29 AMChances of amputation or death is very slim to zero with a good surgeon. Deep infection, embolism and compartment syndrome can happen regardless of how much you lengthen, the latter two mostly happens after surgery. Non-union could be multifactorial and nerve damage could happen with higher lengthening amount. There have not been any reported amputation cases in forum patient diaries but I have read studies that exclude some patients from the study because their outcome was amputation. They don't state the reason why they were amputated but these patients did have pre-existing trauma before fixation and some resulted in osteomyelitis and non-union. Compartment syndrome, complex non-union and osteomyelitis resulting to amputation have been reported in studies.
Just remember that these are worst possible outcomes to LL, although rare with a good surgeon. Judging from some of the posts in this forum, it seems that some prospective LL'ers take this surgery very lightly and believe that they're immune to very serious complications. It's not a good idea to be overconfident. You must consider and accept the worst case scenario before LL. A forum member did experience a life threatening condition a day after his surgery and he immediately had to be shifted to the ICU unit, despite having surgery with the best. His experience was horrifying and seriously made me reconsider LL. It was an eye opener. I believe that majority of serious complications related to LL will not be reported in LL forums and only a very few percent of LL patients do have diaries.
Yes I know. I knew that the outcome of losing life or a limb is very unlikely to happen but they're is still a chance. I think the fact that Dr. Birkholtz brought it up made me think that it happened under his supervision. I do not think I would lose a limb or die doing this operation but I do know that you are going to lose something with this surgery because no matter how successful the operation is you'll lose something like job promotion, personal relationships, lose of athletic ability etc. In my case, I think it's definitely worth going to various countries to get a good view of what it's like because all though I want this surgery more than almost anything, I know the thing that I want most could destroy me in the end even If I don't die or lose a limb.
Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on December 07, 2014, 06:53:59 AMYes I know. I knew that the outcome of losing life or a limb is very unlikely to happen but they're is still a chance. I think the fact that Dr. Birkholtz brought it up made me think that it happened under his supervision. I do not think I would lose a limb or die doing this operation but I do know that you are going to lose something with this surgery because no matter how successful the operation is you'll lose something like job promotion, personal relationships, lose of athletic ability etc. In my case, I think it's definitely worth going to various countries to get a good view of what it's like because all though I want this surgery more than almost anything, I know the thing that I want most could destroy me in the end even If I don't die or lose a limb.
I remember the initial reaction in Dr.B's page when he mentioned amputation and was derided by several forum members. But as a prospective LL patient I would want to hear the worst case scenario before entering the operation theatre. Sometimes patients only like to hear what they want to hear and many doctors can take advantage of this, but a good doctor will always let their patients know about the worst possible outcome and not guarantee anything with a risky surgery.
mehh if its amputation, Just end your own life fast easy. Not alot lost. But if you gain that new height. life begins. 50-50. Only the worthy survive
Quote from: Slim_tim on December 07, 2014, 07:33:06 AMmehh if its amputation, Just end your own life fast easy. Not alot lost. But if you gain that new height. life begins. 50-50. Only the worthy survive
Don't agree. Some doctors are driven by greed and not your safety. Build a strong repport with your doc and if you genuinely trust him/her, you'll probably be okay.
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