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Posted on May 14, 2014, 10:46 am
#1
Hi all,

First of all, i had the surgery 7 months ago so this is not gonna be a diary but more like a summary of my leg lengthening journey i'd like to share now since it's still fresh in my mind. I’ll talk about the big steps of my journey, but if u have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

So, to introduce myself:

Age: 30+
Gender: male
Ethnicity: white
Initial height: ~ 1,68 m (~5f6)
Wingspan: ~ 1,74 (~ 5f8,5) / Sitting height: ~ 88cm (~ 2f10,5) for those who care about proportions.
Initial weight: ~66 kg (~145 lb)
Initial flexibility: ~85-90° on SLR
Physical abilities: Close to average, i always practiced many kind of sports but never been an athlete.

For some reasons i was unhappy with my height since i was 15-16. Cuz i have almost always been the shortest male (classroom, family, friends), i really lacked in self-confidence in so many situations, especially for dating.
So when i got 20, i decided to start research about leg lengthening. I discovered how hard and expensive was that process but i was highly determined so i didn't give up n i kept quiet during years.
Eventually after finishing my studies and earning enough money (which took me almost 10 years), i decided to meet Dr Guichet for a first consultation at the end of 2012 in Marseille.
For those who are wondering why i chosed Dr Guichet:
1) He's doing LL since 20 years.
2) He has operated hundreds of patients. 
3) From what i searched, he's using the strongest nail (i was a bit worrying about breaking or bending it)
He measured me, tested my flexibilty and told me what gain i could expect from the LL process. I was aiming at 7-8 cm (knowing that it could be definitely less) and he said it was possible but he told me i had to train a bit first, he also gave me few instructions about what i should do before the surgery in order to have it and to optimize the results post-surgery.
I was quite flexible but not especially muscled so i trained myself during several months to gain flexibility and strength on legs. Body-building and stretching 2-3 times per week, and some cycling.

It took me 3 months to gain 20% of strength on quads on the isokinetic test and 7 months to gain around 40% in total.
I went to 115-120° on SLR test, and i was weighting ~ 73 kg (~ 160 lb) right before the surgery.

I've been mailing Dr Guichet few times during 2013 and we planned the surgery the 30th september.
After making all the medicals exams needed, i met him again in Milano to finalize the administrative part, 1 month before the surgery. Right before that last consultation, i also been able to meet 3 patients who had or were lengthening. I won't go into details, but they seemed pretty good and very reassuring about the LL process.
I organized the whole stuff before going there including the help of a family member for my journey.
I rent a very nice flat in Milano (Desuite Milano) for me and my family member (I recommend it if u ever go there, nicest people i ever met).


30th september, (Day 0)
at 7am i entered the clinic Casa di Cura Colombus.
at ~ 8am i entered the operating bloc
5 hours later operation ended.
1 hour after the end of operation, i woke up with that weird feeling i'll never forget, "broken femurs effect". And Dr Guichet was here to tell me that operation went well and that it was time to do bike. And i was like wtf, half asleep, very thirsty, legs stiffed as if i ran a marathon the day before and dr wanted me to do bike?
Well, the begininng was strange and a bit hard but after few minutes i got accustomed to
my new broken femurs and eventually i did 30 mins of bike.
After that i had like 1 million medical visits including, physiotherapist, nurses and other various doctors checking how it was going.
Dr Guichet also showed me how to make clicks, he made me 1 on each side, it’s been quite easy n painfree.
First sleepless night due to stupid mosquitos in my room. From all the inconveniences it’s possible to have during a LL, i must confess that i was not expecting the mosquitos.  (get some lemon if u get operated during summer or beginning of autumn, this is not a joke!)


Day 1,
I used my walker n walked during ~15 mins in the clinic. Some cycling n first x-rays.

X-rays ~ +1 cm
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013

Bunch of medical visits again, “tutto va bene” (=everything is all right) as they’re used to say.


Day 2,
Same story as the 2 first days, except that i took my first shower alone^^
But since i needed my walker, it took me like at least 30 mins ( for not a even a 5 mins shower) n i couldn’t  wash my feet.


Day 3,
Last medical exams, n i left the clinic in the afternoon. I had densitometry test in another clinic. I also bought a bike in the center of Milan. Eventually back to my flat.


Day 4,
First weekly visit in the isokinetic center with Dr Boldrini. SLR test, back to 85° after only 1,2 cm, but apparently “tutto va bene”.
Then first stretching exercices with physiotherapists, Stefano and Andrea, both cool and very professional.


After that, i can say that almost all days looked the same. If u do LL, IMO get ready to live like a zombie, doing things w/o even thinking about it, during several weeks. Clicking, eating,  walking, cycling, sleeping (when i could), clicking, eating,  walking, cycling, sleeping n again, n again, n again...


Day 14,
X-rays ~ +2,7 cm
ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013


Day 21,
Had to wait a bit before having the results x-rays (misunderstanding with the administration of the clinic).
Anyway x-rays were ok so i’ve been allowed to use the crutches.  Little exercices of walking, n using stairs with it. After 10-15 mins, i got accustomed to it.
From that day except in my flat, i didn’t use my walker anymore.


Few days after, i was using the subway on my own. I can say that people in Milan take care of people with less mobility, i don’t remember how many times i heard “una mano?” (=need help?) while i was using stairs in the subway.


Day 25,
~ 55-60° on SLR test. Until the end of my lengthening it stayed like this, i didn’t lose flexibility anymore.


Day 29,
X-rays ~ +4,5 cm
ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013


Day 34-35,
I gained ~ 5cm n probably for the first time of my life i didn’t feel short anymore. 
If for any reasons i had to stop here, i think i would have been happy already.


Day 45,
X-rays ~ +5,7 cm
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013


Day 46,
First exercices in swiming-pool.


Around 2 months post-op,
I decided to stop LL when i would reach 7cm. Missing family and friends, i wanted to go back to my home before Xmas.


Day 70,
X-rays ~ +7,3 cm
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013


Day 72,
First walk w/o crutches with a little duck-ass.


Day 73,
11 pm, last clicks.
1132 clicks and 7,547 cm later (and 6-7 kg less), it’s time to enjoy my new height^^


2 days post-clicking,
Going back home.


4-5 days post-clicking,
I completely get rid off the crutches.


2 weeks post-clicking, (3 months post-op)
My duck-ass disappeared n my walk looked pretty normal, but i still felt stiffness in my back while walking.


1 month post-clicking,
Walking as i used to do it before the surgery. No more pain, no more stiffness.


4 months post-op,
X-rays
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
Bone r fused, it probably happened 1 month post-clicking.


6 months post-op,
X-rays
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
Bones r strong enough to run n start gradually body-building of legs.

At first try, jogging has been quite easy, running and body-building have been harder causing pain on higher part of quads.
I don’t worry it about since it’s getting better and easier every week. I might give more details about my recovery later.

What i'm doing 6 months n 3 weeks post-op, (i posted videos on youtube under the name "shyshyflyfly" )

Flexibility


Jumps


Running frontview


Running sideview



To conclude, more than the lack of sleep and the pain, for me the hardest thing during this LL has been the boring aspect. Cuz yea, it’s been boring to do almost everyday the same things. Fortunately, it’s been only 2 months and a half. I kept confident, smiling and very positive during the all process even if it was not easy everyday. I’m pretty sure that this positive attitude has been one of the key of my successful LL. Getting those little millimeters everyday kept me happy n reminded me that the end was getting closer.

When i look back, remembering how i was sad and how i was lacking in self-confidence cuz i felt short before the surgery, i don’t have any doubt that it was definitely worse it n that i made the right choice by doing this LL.

Now that i don’t feel short anymore, my big pleasure is only to put my coat and my sneakers and hanging out in the street.

I feel good, i’m just happy ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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Posted on May 14, 2014, 11:58 am
#2
hi ShyShy!!
thank you for this summary!! your personal experience is just what every soon-to-be-limb-lenghtener wishes his journey to be! ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
i saw your videos before, and i was honestly impressed not only by your physical ability but mostly by how proportionally good you look!
i also want to do 7,5 but i'm a little concerned if it is not too much for me. i'm a little shorter than you (167cm).., i may do only 7 cm because of that.
could you help me by telling me how tall your knees stand without shoes when you are seated in a sofa? mine stand at around 50cm..
i was also concerned about Dr. Guichet failing to put the screws trough the lesser trochanter like i happened with leechlet's right leg.. but from what i can see, he apparently failed in both of your legs and you didn't had any problem with that!! i hope he fails in both in me too!! ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
also, what is about lemons!? i didn't get it  ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
merci!
amitiés ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
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Posted on May 14, 2014, 2:25 pm
#3
Kudos to ShyShy, who shows up not be shy at all ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013

I thank you for this thorough report of your experience of physical (and spiritual as well) growth after your 30ies!

About proportions, me too would like to know how long are your legs (i.e., the segments of our lower limbs which span from the knee to the ground, feet included...)

Thanks in advance and thank you for the tip about the flat in Milan as well.

Cheers.
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Posted on May 14, 2014, 5:54 pm
#4
Thanks for the very informative and interesting summary!  Your running looks great by the way.  The strides don't look too long, and your gait doesn't look at all like you're stomping.
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Posted on May 15, 2014, 3:45 am
#5
dude doesnt even look like he had surgery. also is it safe to be prancing around like that in 6 months. honestly i would have waited a little longer just in case. maybe he was just too happy n wanted to show off. 7 cm phessh. i going for the full 10 baby. so if i clicked to 10 cm on the nails then they would stop and i would know i was at 10 cm, right?
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Posted on May 15, 2014, 3:53 am
#6
This is an incredibly strong testemonial for this dr. lol
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Posted on May 15, 2014, 4:38 am
#7
hi ShyShy,
Well Done. Can you please tell me how much it cost with Guichet and please breakdown the cost and Extra Cost I should plan for.
Thanks
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Posted on May 15, 2014, 1:06 pm
#8
Hello, this is my very first post. I have to admit I could not refrain myself first from congratulating you on your journey because it takes a lot of guts (not even mentioning money, time, etc.) to start such one and second because you helped me make up my mind on whether should I start my own journey or not. It's been a while since I wanted to do it but somehow there always was something to stop me from doing the final step towards it. Now it's time to make things become real, should it fail or not.
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Posted on May 15, 2014, 3:47 pm
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Quote from: ShortLegs on May 15, 2014, 04:38:51 AMhi ShyShy,
Well Done. Can you please tell me how much it cost with Guichet and please breakdown the cost and Extra Cost I should plan for.
Thanks

+1 on this, beat me to it.
Could you please outline all the necessary costs for the whole proces such as accommodation, the surgery, food, isokinetic centre training and etc.
Guichet seems like a great option with rather quick recovery but the cost seems to be a factor for most people such as myself.
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Posted on May 15, 2014, 4:52 pm
#10
Quote from: Übermensch on May 14, 2014, 11:58:25 AMthank you for this summary!! [...]
merci!
amitiés ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
Quote from: antoky on May 14, 2014, 02:25:46 PMI thank you for this thorough report of your experience of physical (and spiritual as well) growth after your 30ies!
Quote from: bd23 on May 15, 2014, 01:06:39 PMI have to admit I could not refrain myself first from congratulating you on your journey

De rien les amis, u're all welcome^^

Quote from: Übermensch on May 14, 2014, 11:58:25 AMi also want to do 7,5 but i'm a little concerned if it is not too much for me. i'm a little shorter than you (167cm).., i may do only 7 cm because of that.
could you help me by telling me how tall your knees stand without shoes when you are seated in a sofa? mine stand at around 50cm..
Unless u have completely abnormal proportions, u shouldn't worry too much about it ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013
But if u do, IMO things that people might maybe notice are:
1) the length of your arms compared to your total height. Mine from finger to shoulder is ~ 73 cm for a total height of ~ 175,5 cm
2) Your sitting height. ~ 88 cm for me
3) the height of your knee. mine (starting from the ground including feet while sitting on a chair) is ~ 50,5 cm
4) the ratio femur/tibia (i don't know mine, anyway with clothes it's very hard to estimate femur length and very easy to hide it)

Quote from: Übermensch on May 14, 2014, 11:58:25 AMi was also concerned about Dr. Guichet failing to put the screws trough the lesser trochanter like i happened with leechlet's right leg.. but from what i can see, he apparently failed in both of your legs and you didn't had any problem with that!! i hope he fails in both in me too!! ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013

Yea, i remember that leechlet was in panic that day, but he felt better when i sended him my x-rays via skype.
If u ask guichet, for him puting screws like this is completely normal and it's not related to the pain u might feel during the process.

Quote from: Übermensch on May 14, 2014, 11:58:25 AMalso, what is about lemons!? i didn't get it  ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013

Very simple, i hate mosquitos and mosquitos hate the smell of lemons so since the enemies of my enemies r my friends, lemons r my friends hahaha  ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013

Quote from: connorcranston on May 15, 2014, 03:45:28 AMdude doesnt even look like he had surgery. also is it safe to be prancing around like that in 6 months. honestly i would have waited a little longer just in case. maybe he was just too happy n wanted to show off. 7 cm phessh. i going for the full 10 baby. so if i clicked to 10 cm on the nails then they would stop and i would know i was at 10 cm, right?

I only respected my surgeon recommendations. Since guichet allowed to run n use body-building machines, i did it^^

The maximum gain on Gnail is 10 cm so i guess yea the mecanism will just stop if u max out the nail. Anyway, with the clicking-count, it's hard to make mistakes, n i never planned on doing 10 cms so...

Quote from: ShortLegs on May 15, 2014, 04:38:51 AMhi ShyShy,
Well Done. Can you please tell me how much it cost with Guichet and please breakdown the cost and Extra Cost I should plan for.
Thanks

For the cost, it really depends on your living habits. In my family, we can live like monks but we r all different so for me its been around ~ 55 000 euros.


Operation ~ 42 000

Isokinetic Center ~ 4500
2000 per month (i paid only for ~ 2 months cuz i didn’t go there everyday the last 3 weeks) + an extra of  ~ 500 euros for hydrotherapy (i asked for swiming-pool, but it’s up to u, u might want it or not)

The rent of flat ~ 4500  (for 2,5 months, with all necessary, and 2 beds)
It’s been 1800 per month. U can find cheaper but they have been very arranging with me.
As u know, i had to go the isokinetic center 5 times per week which is ~ 2,5 km away from my flat. Considering i had my walker, that meant cabs everyday at least at the beginning while i was not able to use the subway. (keep in mind that Guichet strongly discourages the use of wheelchair, so 2,5 km in wheelchair, just forget it)
So i asked the person in charge of the residence (Selene) if she knew a taxi driver so i could have bargained a global price for a daily ride to go to the rehab center and come back to my flat.
She didn’t know any but she asked the guy who was in charge of the cleaning of the residence (Gerry) if he could drive me to the center and get me back 4 hours later (it’s like 10mins of driving). Gerry said ok.
Normally the rent of this flat includes a weekly cleaning. So instead of that, i said that my family member could do the washing cuz Gerry been arranging doing the taxi.
Of course, i paid him 150 euros per month and sometimes (very rarely) he was not able to drive me to center so i had to take a cab or the subway (when i started to use crutches).
I also told the rehab center that i would only come from 8am to 12am cuz Gerry was working in the residence only during the morning and could only drive me there and get me back at those hours.

Eventually, i took cabs only 6- 7 times.
When i left the clinic 3 days pot-op, when i had second x-rays 14 days pot-op and maybe 2-3 times during the first 3 weeks when Gerry was not able to drive me to the center or get me back 4 hours later.

After the first 3 weeks, when i had a medical appointement as for example, i managed with the subway.


Transports cost in Milano ~ 500 euros.
300 for Gerry
less then 200 for the cabs
I cheated for the subway (not that i wanted to but i was too lazy to make a suscription card only for 2 months, anyway it’s like 35euros per month), if u’re walking with crutches subway’s supervisors will just open the doors and let u go in or out the subway.  yay like 70 euros saved  ShyShy - Internal femurs - Dr Guichet 2013


Others costs ~ 2500 euros
Including the medical appointements (x-rays every 2 weeks and 3 densitometry tests), food for 2 persons and few other stuffs (like an inside bike for 80 euros) .
Milano is kinda cheap town, at least compared to Paris. I remember that i was getting my daily pizza for 5-6 euros (don’t ask me how a pizzeria can make money selling so cheaply), and pizzas r good in Italy^^

Pre-op costs ~ 1200 euros
Blood tests and first isokinetic test ~ free since i did it in my country n my health insurance paid for me. (ofc i pay for my health insurance like everyone else, so i didn’t count it)
Bunch of drugs, walker, crutches less than 100 euros (drugs r cheap in France, and many things been paid by my healthinsurance since i had medical prescription)
First consultation with Guichet in Marseille: 200 euros
Second consultation in Milano : 150 euros
Isokinetic test in Milano: 150 euros
First x-rays in Milano ~150 euros
First bone densitometry in Milano ~ 300 euros
Psychiatrist consultation  ~ 200 euros

What i didn't include
Pre-op training and professional coach
I've been going into a gymclub with a coach who made me a personal training program but i also worked a lot on my own during several months.
So far it didn't cost me a lot but if u wanna gain time u'd better go with a highly skilled coach who gonna kick your ass to improve your strength and flexibility.
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