Quote from: EndGame on August 20, 2023, 12:40:09 PMWe might be there at the same time. You doing Femurs or Tibia or quad?
I will do Quad to get up to 175+. If everything went smoothly I would do Option 5 and move on, but to me if I could not do it it would be also fine to me that I could only grow up to 175cm. My goal is to be considered as normal instead of huge.
Some thoughts rattling around violently in my brain right now
Quote from: TheDream on August 20, 2023, 02:04:56 PMGood question.
I dont think I would classify it as body dysmorphia because eye level is such a fundamental psychological thing.
I think I remember some experiment being done, where they gave tall people Virtual Reality goggles, and made them simulate being in a full subway (metro) while being very short.
If I remember correctly most if not all reported feeling a strong sense of anxiety being so far down compared to everyone else.
Body dysmorphia is more when you see yourself in third person, while a height neurosis is as much seeing the world from first person view.
As such I dont think a psychotherapy can cure a height neurosis, unless the height neurosis only manifests when the person see’s themselves on pictures, and not simply their first person view. As an example, one of the feelings I dread, is simply going to a social gathering at someones house, taking my shoes of, and having to interact in that setting.
The difference in eye level, as seen from my point of view, makes me feel very childlike and emasculated. I think the nail on the head is knowing these other people are not super tall. Maybe just average or slightly above average. So they are correct while I am incorrect.
I do however think that talking with a psychologist in combination with LL could be beneficial. Why? Well, it could help deal with the psychological dilemma of after LL. That is, do you keep it hidden, do you tell everyone, do you only tell certain people, when to tell them, when to tell a girl you are dating or not to tell etc.
Maybe creating a plan for this part, and having someone to talk things out with, and how to deal with this part could alleviate a lot of problems.
At the end of the day, when we do LL, we make a trade. We obtain more peace of mind from the added height in terms of height neurosis going down, but we instead we get stress from the psychological aspect of whom to tell or not to tell about having done LL.
I think having a clear plan of 1. Why you are doing LL 2. What is your goal and what are the constraints. You know you can’t become 7 foot tall and there will still be people taller than you after. Explain why you would feel okay with yourself in this scenario vs. with your current height. 3. What is your plan to deal with post LL in terms of who to tell and when.
I think nailing down these 3, maybe with a psychologist maybe by yourself, could prepare you well for the demons that you will face in exchange for lessening the height neurosis.
The same way many people stretch etc. before LL to prepare for the physical battles ahead.
Society sometimes really sucks, and sometimes I even perceive our society as something that is totally negative. It makes so many demands for men and women and they gotta be suffering from certain kinds of dysphorias thereof, and treated unfairly.
This is one of the reasons why I want to major in something that only contains introverted activities, like Math, which do not require many social activities in which your height, face, etc. will def be important or at least have some effects.
Maybe also this is one the reasons why the average heights of the experts majoring in something like this are not tall or even shorter than average, since shorter men are more likely to be introverted and introvertedness is kinda important for those majors. It's really kinda hard to socialize with others with a 4'11 height and pig face with adequate confidences. Socialization does have demands for them.
And yeah everything will be like you say. After LL there will be other mental struggles but imo they are far less disturbing than height dysphoria. And yeah for very severely dysphoric LLers even LL may not be an option because they will still suffer from dysphoria even past LL, and I've already seen some people on this fourm like this.
Quote from: LG1816 on August 20, 2023, 01:35:57 PMI'm 26. Luckily I work from home and have everything I need around me. The only sacrifice besides those associated with the actual surgery is social. Cheers.
You're super young and have time to think about it. You are really not short from a numbers perspective but if its something you want to do go for it. 5'8.5 is not a completely insane height to do this unlike people who are 5'10+ getting into this (but to each their own). Its frankly just fun to get taller. But again, you're literally an inch off average its not like your height is hampering your life like it is truly short folks. The biggest trade-off is people around you thinking you're insane for having done the surgery....and they may have a point. This is an extreme surgery and were all a bit nuts for doing it. Is that worth getting taller for? Up to you. Id say you're in an ideal situation for doing the surgery though from what you have described. My advice would be to do a modest amount though. Keep it under 6CM. If you want any chance of keeping it a secret you need to shoot for like 4CM (but idk if thats worth it to you... for me the small amount was absolutely worth it). But trust me you will feel the fk out of it especially at your starting height and your recovery will be fast (but still a dedicated journey). There is no way you will be unhappy with your new height at 5'10-5'11. After than if you're unhappy you need to go to a psychiatrist.
Quote from: DanishViking on August 19, 2023, 06:44:58 AMI agree with others and how you fell however imagine if you where 5'5 1/2 like me how it much feel? XD But of course you can always find someone worse off than yourself and that doesn't mean your problem isn't serious. If you constantly think about it, then do it!! But if it's like a once a month thing seing a guy taller than you and then that reminding you that it would be cool to be a little taller then I would say no. Not worth all that invasive surgery if it ain't a BIG problem for someone.
Whats your game plan on getting the surgery these days?
You should do it because as you said you are below average height. You will pass a lot of people if you do LL due to that fact.
Quote from: MyPhysicalRomance on August 20, 2023, 09:12:13 PMYou should do it because as you said you are below average height. You will pass a lot of people if you do LL due to that fact.
I would never do it if I were 5 ft 8+. I am 5 ft 6 and still am thinking about doing it
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