Statistical & Anecdotal Proofs that 6 Feet is Ideal, Taller is not ideal

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 10:56 am

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(Yes I know, I've all along theorised that ideal height is probably about 186 cm in UK/USA but I AM WRONG. Here is the data. But I am right that: taller is not always better. there is a ceiling-effect.)

I copy and paste here, so that guys who reach 6 feet will not feel short-changed compared to guys who want to lengthen to taller heights. For those who are already 6 feet, get a reality check

Statistical & Anecdotal Proofs that 6 Feet is Ideal, Taller is not ideal

If you do this for girls, you are dead wrong.

http://www.heightdb.com/blog/ideal-male-height
ideal male height is 6'1. look at the peak. (so in my country it should be about 6 feet)

Further confirmation that 6'1 and above are probably too tall:
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/60-is-the-ideal-male-height.453495411/
Based on dating pools

Second, in UK, 5'11 is ideal (2014)
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/07/11/ideal-height-56-woman-511-man/

QuoteThe survey also finds that for the average British man, a partner becomes too short at 4'11” and too tall at 6'.

Third, Dailymail (UK):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2126093/Womens-idea-perfect-man-A-6ft--48k-year--beer-drinking-meat-eater-Audi.html

QuoteThe ideal male will also be 6ft tall, have short dark hair and smart dress sense - similar to that of U.S. X Factor host Steve Jones.

Fourth, http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156380333

QuoteIn a study by Hensley (1994) women preferred a man who was 72 inches (183 cm) (6ft) tall as a benchmark. The preference for the six foot tall man is overwhelming, says Hensley. In his study, consisting of 145 females, 32 percent reported this as their preferred height

Interestingly, there seems to be a “ceiling effect” where tall males (over 6 feet) suffer a decrease in fitness. That is, women tend to find extremely tall men less attractive. This has been noted by several researchers. Women tend to prefer men of a medium stature over really tall men or really short men. In a study by Graziano et. al. (1978) similar results showed that men of medium height (5’9″- 5’11″) were rated as more attractive over shorter (5’5″- 5’7″) or taller men (6’2″- 6’4″), regardless of the height of the women (4’10″- 6’1″).

I didn't skew the search results. I just searched "ideal male height":https://www.google.com.sg/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ideal+male+height

Read yourself.
So what you gotta say to this

?

This is validation that:
1. There is a cut-off height that is too tall. Probably about 6 feet in Singapore and 1 inch or 2 inch greater in UK/USA/Europe (or as the study shows, it may in fact be 6' or 5'11)
2. The girl friends and guy friends ( gay, straight, bi ) I spoke to, are CORRECT
3. Musicmaker and Diso are not the odd ones out. Yes women think that 6' is probably too tall, or it is at least ON THE EDGE of being too tall.
4. The forum members here have a totally distorted view of facts.
5. Hollywood heights are there for a reason. If you notice, most are below 185 cm (and Hollywood celebrities are generally taller than average persons). Same goes for K-pop, C-Pop and Taiwanese Pop and J-Pop!

So multiple sources say the ideal is about 6 feet, and it might be lower in Singpaore... maybe 180cm. But as I said, I don't care about girls. I wanna feel tall, and I think I can do so at 6 feet in Singapore.

CASE CLOSED

(I won, hands down, slam dunk style)

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(Yes I know, I've all along theorised that ideal height is probably about 186 cm in UK/USA but I AM WRONG. Here is the data. But I am right that: taller is not always better. there is a ceiling-effect.)

I copy and paste here, so that guys who reach 6 feet will not feel short-changed compared to guys who want to lengthen to taller heights. For those who are already 6 feet, get a reality check

If you do this for girls, you are dead wrong.

http://www.heightdb.com/blog/ideal-male-height
ideal male height is 6'1. look at the peak. (so in my country it should be about 6 feet)

Further confirmation that 6'1 and above are probably too tall:
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/60-is-the-ideal-male-height.453495411/
Based on dating pools

Second, in UK, 5'11 is ideal (2014)
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/07/11/ideal-height-56-woman-511-man/

QuoteThe survey also finds that for the average British man, a partner becomes too short at 4'11” and too tall at 6'.

Third, Dailymail (UK):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2126093/Womens-idea-perfect-man-A-6ft--48k-year--beer-drinking-meat-eater-Audi.html

QuoteThe ideal male will also be 6ft tall, have short dark hair and smart dress sense - similar to that of U.S. X Factor host Steve Jones.

Fourth, http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156380333

QuoteIn a study by Hensley (1994) women preferred a man who was 72 inches (183 cm) (6ft) tall as a benchmark. The preference for the six foot tall man is overwhelming, says Hensley. In his study, consisting of 145 females, 32 percent reported this as their preferred height

Interestingly, there seems to be a “ceiling effect” where tall males (over 6 feet) suffer a decrease in fitness. That is, women tend to find extremely tall men less attractive. This has been noted by several researchers. Women tend to prefer men of a medium stature over really tall men or really short men. In a study by Graziano et. al. (1978) similar results showed that men of medium height (5’9″- 5’11″) were rated as more attractive over shorter (5’5″- 5’7″) or taller men (6’2″- 6’4″), regardless of the height of the women (4’10″- 6’1″).

I didn't skew the search results. I just searched "ideal male height":https://www.google.com.sg/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ideal+male+height

Read yourself.
So what you gotta say to this

?

This is validation that:
1. There is a cut-off height that is too tall. Probably about 6 feet in Singapore and 1 inch or 2 inch greater in UK/USA/Europe (or as the study shows, it may in fact be 6' or 5'11)
2. The girl friends and guy friends ( gay, straight, bi ) I spoke to, are CORRECT
3. Musicmaker and Diso are not the odd ones out. Yes women think that 6' is probably too tall, or it is at least ON THE EDGE of being too tall.
4. The forum members here have a totally distorted view of facts.
5. Hollywood heights are there for a reason. If you notice, most are below 185 cm (and Hollywood celebrities are generally taller than average persons). Same goes for K-pop, C-Pop and Taiwanese Pop and J-Pop!

So multiple sources say the ideal is about 6 feet, and it might be lower in Singpaore... maybe 180cm. But as I said, I don't care about girls. I wanna feel tall, and I think I can do so at 6 feet in Singapore.

CASE CLOSED

(I won, hands down, slam dunk style)

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 6:39 pm

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What about Latin America? Will it be ok to be 6'1+ there?
And btw I'm totally agree with you about that LL shouldnt be done just because of girls. Unless of course you are interested in volleyball or basketball girl players.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 7:16 pm

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Its been the perfect height for decades now, stop listening to people on the internet that are obsessed with perfect proportions aka as those who spend time on sluthate, it tends to push and find something more perfect each time, which is why we hear a 6'5 as perfect height, when in reality without all the crap theory from here 6'0-6'1 is the greatest balance

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 7:27 pm

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 7:49 pm

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Interesting hypothesis, yes a fascinating postulation indeed. Let's examine your case shall we?

"Here is the data" you claim, "but what are your sources?" I respond.

First off is "HeightDB" -an amateur blog for guessing the height of celebrities. They let random people vote, they didn't know anything about how representative the voters were, they didn't know which people voted and they presented their results without discussing their statistical approach. Do you honestly think people regard 6'3 as a great height but 6'4 (a 2,5CM difference) as horrible?

I think we can all agree, in conclusion, that "HeightDB's" survey should be thoght of as -let's say- unsatisfactory data.

Moving on with our jolly analysis we find a link to the "IGN" forums. "IGN" is a video game/media blog and their forum is mostly populated with silly teenagers, trolls and what would be refered to as "cheeky kunts" by a person familiar with the local norms of discourse. The actual source itself is a digital image featuring unsupported claims made in a sarcastic manner and decorated with various internet memes.
I hate to sound harsh, but I'm afraid this too is not a basis for any conclusion other than that the IGN forums lives up to its reputation of being a digital cesspool.

This is rather fun isn't it, now what's next?

We are now presented with a link to "YouGov" who made a survey that would fit right in at jolly good "HeightDB" except that they didn't ask voters what height they prefered in the opposite sex but rather how tall they themselves would like to be. As this upon closer dissection reveals itself to be inconsistent with previously stated issue (what height women prefer in men) it, unfortuantely, renders this source irreleveant.

Now for the real treat: the Daily. Fuking. Mail. The same brilliant editorial who gave Britain this shining examples of journalistic perspicacity:

"The chicken IN the egg: Amazing image in a frying pan" and this marvelous example of societal awarness: "Is there no one left in Britain who can make a sandwich?" and lest we forget: "I'm NOT Bungle, insist UKIP deputy leader after internet pranksters edit his wikipedia page to claim he starred in 70s children's TV show Raibow".

-This requires no further explanation.

And last but not least, just when we were beginning to wonder, there it is; a link to the infamous MISC bodybuilding forum -your academic argument is now complete. I cannot but concur with your flawless reasoning, your undivided passion for pertinent information and your brilliant, "out-of-the-box" multifaceted, nuanced and deep analysis to finally prove -beyond all doubt- that whatever you say: You've got the facts to back it up.

Much respect, and welcome to the nobel faculty, your colleague and admirer: Uppland.

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Interesting hypothesis, yes a fascinating postulation indeed. Let's examine your case shall we?

"Here is the data" you claim, "but what are your sources?" I respond.

First off is "HeightDB" -an amateur blog for guessing the height of celebrities. They let random people vote, they didn't know anything about how representative the voters were, they didn't know which people voted and they presented their results without discussing their statistical approach. Do you honestly think people regard 6'3 as a great height but 6'4 (a 2,5CM difference) as horrible?

I think we can all agree, in conclusion, that "HeightDB's" survey should be thoght of as -let's say- unsatisfactory data.

Moving on with our jolly analysis we find a link to the "IGN" forums. "IGN" is a video game/media blog and their forum is mostly populated with silly teenagers, trolls and what would be refered to as "cheeky kunts" by a person familiar with the local norms of discourse. The actual source itself is a digital image featuring unsupported claims made in a sarcastic manner and decorated with various internet memes.
I hate to sound harsh, but I'm afraid this too is not a basis for any conclusion other than that the IGN forums lives up to its reputation of being a digital cesspool.

This is rather fun isn't it, now what's next?

We are now presented with a link to "YouGov" who made a survey that would fit right in at jolly good "HeightDB" except that they didn't ask voters what height they prefered in the opposite sex but rather how tall they themselves would like to be. As this upon closer dissection reveals itself to be inconsistent with previously stated issue (what height women prefer in men) it, unfortuantely, renders this source irreleveant.

Now for the real treat: the Daily. Fuking. Mail. The same brilliant editorial who gave Britain this shining examples of journalistic perspicacity:

"The chicken IN the egg: Amazing image in a frying pan" and this marvelous example of societal awarness: "Is there no one left in Britain who can make a sandwich?" and lest we forget: "I'm NOT Bungle, insist UKIP deputy leader after internet pranksters edit his wikipedia page to claim he starred in 70s children's TV show Raibow".

-This requires no further explanation.

And last but not least, just when we were beginning to wonder, there it is; a link to the infamous MISC bodybuilding forum -your academic argument is now complete. I cannot but concur with your flawless reasoning, your undivided passion for pertinent information and your brilliant, "out-of-the-box" multifaceted, nuanced and deep analysis to finally prove -beyond all doubt- that whatever you say: You've got the facts to back it up.

Much respect, and welcome to the nobel faculty, your colleague and admirer: Uppland.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 8:44 pm

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I agree with uppland, overall , people don't have any idea about height, and don't know how a legit 6 footer looks like.
So when they state :"6 feet is ideal" they just have no of how a legit 6 footer feels, I guess the say 6.0 just because it s a rounding number.
Realistically speaking, the perfect height is altleast 185 cm, I don't want to offend short people, or those who cannot reach 185 cm in one or two operation.But it doesn't mean you can't be satisfied with your height
peace

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 8:48 pm

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that guy beating the dead horse............... that made my day, I can die happy now

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 9:10 pm

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Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 07:49:54 PMWe are now presented with a link to "YouGov" who made a survey that would fit right in at jolly good "HeightDB" except that they didn't ask voters what height they prefered in the opposite sex but rather how tall they themselves would like to be. As this upon closer dissection reveals itself to be inconsistent with previously stated issue (what height women prefer in men) it, unfortuantely, renders this source irreleveant.

Hi Uppland, thanks for your comments. Anyway, re: YouGov, it was an opinion survey which asked women.

I quote:

QuoteOn average, women say a romantic partner 5’3” or shorter is generally too short for comfort, while a partner 6’3” or taller is too tall, and the “ideal” height for a man is 5’11”. The survey also finds that for the average British man, a partner becomes too short at 4’11” and too tall at 6’. The ideal height for a woman, according to the average man, is 5’6”.

Notably, this excludes 10% of men who say there is no such thing as too short and 9% who say no height is too tall. Similarly, there is no "too short" for 4% of women and no "too tall" for 7%.

Re: Dailymail, I have read its articles and some articles were very well written. Either way, it is an opinion poll and this is what the ladies said.

Also, what do you have to say about the academic studies quoted at bodybuilding.com? Surely the academics can't be wrong as well? They asked women their ideal date, and it must have been a proper anthropologic evaluation.

So what do I say? We have opinion poll evidence from women and academic research (yes it was decades ago, but considering the data posted by endomorphisme, we see that the younger generation is at most 0.9 cm taller).

I am now very worried about the fact that when I reach 6 feet, it might be too tall for my country (as endomorphisme pointed out).

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Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 07:49:54 PMWe are now presented with a link to "YouGov" who made a survey that would fit right in at jolly good "HeightDB" except that they didn't ask voters what height they prefered in the opposite sex but rather how tall they themselves would like to be. As this upon closer dissection reveals itself to be inconsistent with previously stated issue (what height women prefer in men) it, unfortuantely, renders this source irreleveant.

Hi Uppland, thanks for your comments. Anyway, re: YouGov, it was an opinion survey which asked women.

I quote:

QuoteOn average, women say a romantic partner 5’3” or shorter is generally too short for comfort, while a partner 6’3” or taller is too tall, and the “ideal” height for a man is 5’11”. The survey also finds that for the average British man, a partner becomes too short at 4’11” and too tall at 6’. The ideal height for a woman, according to the average man, is 5’6”.

Notably, this excludes 10% of men who say there is no such thing as too short and 9% who say no height is too tall. Similarly, there is no "too short" for 4% of women and no "too tall" for 7%.

Re: Dailymail, I have read its articles and some articles were very well written. Either way, it is an opinion poll and this is what the ladies said.

Also, what do you have to say about the academic studies quoted at bodybuilding.com? Surely the academics can't be wrong as well? They asked women their ideal date, and it must have been a proper anthropologic evaluation.

So what do I say? We have opinion poll evidence from women and academic research (yes it was decades ago, but considering the data posted by endomorphisme, we see that the younger generation is at most 0.9 cm taller).

I am now very worried about the fact that when I reach 6 feet, it might be too tall for my country (as endomorphisme pointed out).

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 9:17 pm

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Quote from: endomorphisme on March 01, 2015, 08:44:49 PMI agree with uppland, overall , people don't have any idea about height, and don't know how a legit 6 footer looks like.
So when they state :"6 feet is ideal" they just have no of how a legit 6 footer feels, I guess the say 6.0 just because it s a rounding number.
Realistically speaking, the perfect height is altleast 185 cm, I don't want to offend short people, or those who cannot reach 185 cm in one or two operation.But it doesn't mean you can't be satisfied with your height
peace

Now, if you think that 6'2 is the ideal height (ie 187 cm) then that is totally wrong. Or 6'
3 or 6'5 as you posted. Post me a source which says that. Furthermore, the internet research I have done is to search for: Ideal male height. I did not skew the results by searching, "ideal male height six feet".

It was an objective research to find the ideal height in a male. And also what women think is the ideal height for a date.

I challenge you to search for ANYTHING

that shows that ideal height is 6'2 or 6'5 yada yada. Maybe you only have mentally skewed people (guys) who say: ah, I wanna be 6'5" etc

HOWEVER, I can somehow agree with you about the ideal height in western countries is about 6'1 or 6'. it is very similar.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2015, 9:22 pm

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Quote from: Beardedguy on March 01, 2015, 06:39:48 PMWhat about Latin America? Will it be ok to be 6'1+ there?
And btw I'm totally agree with you about that LL shouldnt be done just because of girls. Unless of course you are interested in volleyball or basketball girl players.

I totally agree. the basketball girls tend to be slightly taller.
Anyway or how, if you wanna compare with your country, simply adjust with the average height. Eg, since the average height in my country is 172-174, compared to 176 in the USA, I should subtract 2-4 cm.
So, ideal height in my country is 183 - 2 = 181 CM or 183-4 cm = 179 CM.
IMHO, both will do fine. But perhaps six feet is fine too, because you see all the celebrities (even my country's) are about 1.80+- 1.82, 1.83. (It seems to be universal, Hollywood, KPop, CPop)

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