Quote from: ivan on March 19, 2018, 01:50:42 AMYes, I agree with that.
More anecdotal evidence, but one of my friends is 180cm and his father is 170cm, while his mother is 166cm. What makes this noteworthy is that I live in a developing country where height is still increasing. I believe this to be anecdotal evidence of what we were just talking about.
The Change in Height Around the World Over the Last 100 Years
Well, most of the males in my class in high school are around that height and most of their fathers are 5-10 cm shorter so I know. I even had a classmate who is 188 cm with father who is 178 cm. I was blown away. His mother was pretty average. I'm also living in developing country with average height of 175-178 cm.
Quote from: ivan on March 19, 2018, 02:34:47 AMWell, most of the males in my class in high school are around that height and most of their fathers are 5-10 cm shorter so I know. I even had a classmate who is 188 cm with father who is 178 cm. I was blown away. His mother was pretty average. I'm also living in developing country with average height of 175-178 cm.
That could be one advantage of homogeneous societies. It really sucks to be shorter than your grandfather and your father, who's already shorter than his own. Meanwhile, everyone else around me just got taller than their parents.
This is generally true at least in developing nations but in developed ones it's not uncommon to see 3 generations getting shorter with each one. Take for example Bill Gates who is shorter than his father. If Bill Gates' son is done growing at 18 he might be slightly shorter than his father. So we have William H. Gates Sr. at over 200 cm, Bill Gates at 177 cm and his son probably few cms shorter. Of course that's rather an exception but it's not very unusual to see. It's down to intersxual selection. Taller guys that mate with shorter females have a good chance of producing an average height offspring which can also seek a shorter female which can produce even shorter offspring and so on.
I feel you regarding the height increase around you, most of my peers are either taller than their fathers or quite taller.
Also, I think Bill Gates is more like 176cm tall. Every centimeter counts to make me feel better about myself. 
Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg are also only 170~171cm tall, despite being two of the most powerful and rich people on the planet.
And I'm almost 10cm smaller than my paternal grandfather. Quite literally the gains presented in this thread over the last 100 years, but in the opposite direction.
Looked brutal to me, all that money and I'd still rather pick the height
Dad and his kid basically
Only you and a handful of others would rather pick the height. 
Zuckerberg could have almost any woman on this planet; the guy on the left just has an easy time getting basic girlfriends and one night stands.
Not that Zuckerberg can't also actually have the height, considering the money he has.
It's a question of point of view
http://henrycavill.org/en/blog/photo-shoots/item/1424-henry-cavill-ben-affleck-on-tnt-nba-tip-off look here, on one picture Cavill looks much shorter than Shaq (who is actually taller than everybody in the previous picture) while on the other one the difference looks rather like 19-20 cm
Shaq is listed as 216 cm but claimed 210 cm to Howard Stern
Quote from: myloginacct on March 20, 2018, 11:10:16 AMOnly you and a handful of others would rather pick the height. 
Zuckerberg could have almost any woman on this planet; the guy on the left just has an easy time getting basic girlfriends and one night stands.
Not that Zuckerberg can't also actually have the height, considering the money he has.
I'd rather be 6'2 8/10 face that makes 50k/year from passive income and dividents than Zuckerberg with all his billions.
Women would desire you naturally without the money and actually crave sex with you
Quote from: GeTs on March 20, 2018, 07:41:57 PM
I'd rather be 6'2 8/10 face that makes 50k/year from passive income and dividents than Zuckerberg with all his billions.
Women would desire you naturally without the money and actually crave sxx with you
Wouldn't it be easier to move somewhere where sex work is legal if all you want to do is bang hot women who you have little connection with? You don't even need to be born again, CLL, or anything else.
My point is that even the guy you presented in your theoretical scenario wouldn't be able have as large of a dating pool as Zuckerberg. There are many women who'd be off-limits to the guy in your scenario, no matter how good he looks. However, there's barely any woman in the world who wouldn't be interested in Zuckerberg should he show interest, and the dude could literally buy an entire city and move all its residents out. Get CLL with Paley multiple times if he wanted, and the best of facial plastic surgery in South Korea, should he care about that too. The choice for me would be simple.
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