The difference between men and women

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Quote from: Slim_tim on May 16, 2014, 08:38:01 PMNo there are no famous/succesfull 5'10 people they are all over 5'11 from (2010 and forward), if they are they are most probably wearing lifts like robert downey jr and these other fraudsters. and it's only getting worse,
It is 5'11 after that is diminishing returns.
in 10 years i think 5'11 will be average height for most youth around the world excluding mexicans. Then i promise you will not think 5'10 and over is diminished returns.

at 5'10 you get no benefits, bend your knees a little and you are the same height as a 5'7 guy.... Something about 5'11 gives you that clear height.

But some people just want some more height and continue to live their "boring" lifes. But if you want to be alpha and take charge of your own life then you need 5'11 if you wanna get anywhere, coporations,fashion,tv,magazines,high class women, connections it goes on and on.

thats stupid, youre wrong on all accounts. Tom Hardy is a relatively new star and he is about 5´10 or maybe shorter depending on if he wears lifts, and he is very popular among the ladies and in general he plays badass and masculine roles. Mark Wahlberg is as popular as ever and also about 5'10 or shorter.

it takes way longer than 10 years for the average height to increase noticably in countries that are already developed. China and India will increase average height a lot in 10 years, but a developed country in the west will only notice mariginal increases in 10 years, maybe in 30 years will the average have increased by 1 inch in the western countries.

Girls that are 5'7 or below will have a hard time noticing the difference between a 5'10 guy and a 5'11 guy. 5'10 is considered tall by most girls since most girls are around 5'6 in western nations. a 5'10 guy will get the same benefits as a 5'11 guy, the only time it might make a difference is if they both compete for the same girl and all their other qualities match and the girl really cares about height.

You can definitely be an alpha and recognized as such at 5'10, thats just a fact as ive seen it plenty of times.

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Quote from: Gichelu on May 16, 2014, 09:06:36 PMSlim_Tim you sound like one of those people who wear the tinfoil hats and think the illuminati is out to get them, maybe it's all the pot you smoke. You just projecting your own insecurities and what you say doesn't even make sense at all. If you are an average person of 5'10 you have just as much chance as having a good life as average person of 6'0. If you are famous, rich or both at 5'10 then nobody gives a f*** that you are not 6'0 because you are not short in any sense and people will want to hang out with you just as much as the 6'0 rich and famous guy because at that point height doesn't mean s*** compared to the money or fame people want to be connected to.

Exactly, quoted for truth.

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Quote from: Gichelu on May 16, 2014, 09:06:36 PMSlim_Tim you sound like one of those people who wear the tinfoil hats and think the illuminati is out to get them, maybe it's all the pot you smoke. You just projecting your own insecurities and what you say doesn't even make sense at all. If you are an average person of 5'10 you have just as much chance as having a good life as average person of 6'0. If you are famous, rich or both at 5'10 then nobody gives a f*** that you are not 6'0 because you are not short in any sense and people will want to hang out with you just as much as the 6'0 rich and famous guy because at that point height doesn't mean s*** compared to the money or fame people want to be connected to.

lol, is there anyone who DON'T belive in the illuminati run the world yet? I guess you think the ukraine incident is just by "accident". Time to open your awarness and let your infinite consciousness take charge. I smoke pot and i love it. The medication for expanded awarness and right brain creativity.

YOU think that 5'10 is a okay height. And as i said that is a epic height to be. But come on bro. There is a reason the study about the top 5% alpha males screw majority of the ladies and the other 95% live "mediocre life". I got girls and i got guys telling me if they was a girl they would totally hook up with me (no homo). But i always had to adapt myself to THEIR view and expectations. So i said fk it im not gonna go out and "socialize" when im always the underdog so i stay home the last year i have been doing so, been out partying and stuff like that but have not been out during the day "job hours" and stuff like that.
Obviously your boys from your hometown is gonna want to hang with you. I am talking about the PEOPLE who have aspirations in the public arena THEY are gonna suffer. It's more if their awarness is high enough to pick it up or blame it on some other attribute.

Yep i openly vent my insecurities  that height has upt upon me, as a mean of therapy it is a deadly mental illness to have. (height neurosis).

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on May 16, 2014, 09:15:47 PMthats stupid, youre wrong on all accounts. Tom Hardy is a relatively new star and he is about 5´10 or maybe shorter depending on if he wears lifts, and he is very popular among the ladies and in general he plays badass and masculine roles. Mark Wahlberg is as popular as ever and also about 5'10 or shorter.

it takes way longer than 10 years for the average height to increase noticably in countries that are already developed. China and India will increase average height a lot in 10 years, but a developed country in the west will only notice mariginal increases in 10 years, maybe in 30 years will the average have increased by 1 inch in the western countries.

Girls that are 5'7 or below will have a hard time noticing the difference between a 5'10 guy and a 5'11 guy. 5'10 is considered tall by most girls since most girls are around 5'6 in western nations. a 5'10 guy will get the same benefits as a 5'11 guy, the only time it might make a difference is if they both compete for the same girl and all their other qualities match and the girl really cares about height.


You can definitely be an alpha and recognized as such at 5'10, thats just a fact as ive seen it plenty of times.

Tom hardy i like him..good acting skills. My 6'1 friend even pointed out in the car that they should have used someone taller than hardy in the dark knight rises (bane). And yes he wears lifts to get to what? : 5'11, exactly what i have been saying all along. If the ladies found out his real height they would not be as interested in him ( the facebook incident with taylor lautner and 2 female fans who where taller than him "omg not okay"). mark wahlberg is 5'8. but mark wahlberg is badass no matter what height he is so he do not count because "guys" like him got it straight at any height.

But i am no Mark wahlberg neither is 70% of the population and do not forget he was a looser in jail until he saw his brother on tv.

And said to himself "wtf am im doing" so he started working out and had awesome genetic and muscle growth and started singing as marky mark and got his way into the buisness that way. That is his contribution to the series Entourage.

my sister is as tall as me. My friends little brother is already taller than him at 6'1, my other friends little brother is also already taller at 6'0. I went to pick up my little sis and her friends looked like kenyan sprinters with long legs and short torso. Trust me there is a reason im telling you that the average height is rising....fast. And you can expect the average height in western countries to rise atleast 2-3 inchest. And add the oncoming generation of patients that wants LL, yeah i would boldly state that the average will be 5'11 for guys in 10 years.

Yes girls 5'7 and below will not notice the difference between 5'10 and 5'11..until she puts her heels on then ask her again.


You can be alpha at 5'10 no doubt about it...until that 6'3 steppes into the room. Then it comes down to alphanism? lol

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I think most of us are on this forum because we have in someway or the other acknowledged that yes, height is a discriminating factor that society uses as a conscious or unconscious way to determine who is of a certain class/breeding.

I am sure there are people who at 5foot7 who are more famous 1000000x than any 6'1 person but these people have talent that vast majority do not have. They have charisma/celebrity status that is instantly recognisable  thanks to the media trumpeting their achievements. Everyone wants to be associated with their brand which overshadows/photoshops their lack height. There are no need for awkward first dates unlike commoners cause what are they gonna say "hi I am mark Wahlberg I acted in this show". I would say in most situations they have skipped through the sizing up done in the first impression phase. Why do people feel celebrities are like their closest friends? Cos in a way you do know them quite well ain't it.

However for the vast majority of us we will never be well known enough. It's not as if you can go to any social situation with a loudspeaker that trumpets yours achievements so people know how good you are. Yeah u can wear expensive stuff but that doesn't always work. I would say most of us in a new situation depend on having a first good impression and this is the   part: being smaller you have to assert yourself more about ur personality while the tall guy has to do... Nothing mostly. For a average unknown guy I think height does play an important part in the dating and social scene.

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This is what I call "small dog syndrome"

If u notice in the neighbourhood when u walk past houses, smaller dogs bark the most.even when you are freaking faraway.

"bark bark bark don't come near hey there's a stranger hey guys I need backup"

While big german shepherds are just chilling and just give you a stare: try it if you dare I will bite ur nuts off.

Fact of life: small has to overcompensate. Why u think there is a term napoleon syndrome.

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Quote from: leonidas on May 17, 2014, 12:19:22 AMI think most of us are on this forum because we have in someway or the other acknowledged that yes, height is a discriminating factor that society uses as a conscious or unconscious way to determine who is of a certain class/breeding.

I am sure there are people who at 5foot7 who are more famous 1000000x than any 6'1 person but these people have talent that vast majority do not have. They have charisma/celebrity status that is instantly recognisable  thanks to the media trumpeting their achievements. Everyone wants to be associated with their brand which overshadows/photoshops their lack height. There are no need for awkward first dates unlike commoners cause what are they gonna say "hi I am mark Wahlberg I acted in this show". I would say in most situations they have skipped through the sizing up done in the first impression phase. Why do people feel celebrities are like their closest friends? Cos in a way you do know them quite well ain't it.

However for the vast majority of us we will never be well known enough. It's not as if you can go to any social situation with a loudspeaker that trumpets yours achievements so people know how good you are. Yeah u can wear expensive stuff but that doesn't always work. I would say most of us in a new situation depend on having a first good impression and this is the s**t part: being smaller you have to assert yourself more about ur personality while the tall guy has to do... Nothing mostly. For a average unknown guy I think height does play an important part in the dating and social scene.

Thats what i mean. If you are famous then you can be all kinds of heigths.. but if you are just a regular dude who wants all that life can offer then you need certain things in order to get those things. Just as you need certain things to get the fastest car going. While some things will depend on the driver of the car it will mainly come down to "parts" in the car to determine status.

Actually the little dog syndrome can be seen as the little dog; since he is seen as harmless by the owner, they will normaly just think it's cute barking like that and will not : pull the leash, schh the dog or anything like that. So the dog unaware about his size to a certain extent will keep on doing that behavior. Just like we (under average guys) had a specific behavior until other people told us we are stepping out of line into the "tall behavior zone" and we altered our personality with time to fit  the "little/passive guy personality". The big dog has had his leash pulled 1000 times before he finally got it and "behaved in a properly fashion". So the little dog is not really over compensating it is just unaware of the situation. The same as we got certain people today that do not understand why we get LL.

Also the more and more you socialize eventually you are gonna meet the "upper" people and when THAT happens i do NOT want my height to get in the way of potential life improving decisions. Because they do happen, they have happened and i probably failed it by default before.

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I never said 4 inches in one surgery, wtf! About 3 inches will put me over 5 11. Even though now I say my plan is to follow with 2 inches on tibs I acknowledge theres a large chance I will be totally content at 5 11 and not want to go through more downtime, cash, and potential complications. 5 11 is a fine height, just not an impressive one- If I invested in being 6 1, it is a much more powerful and imposing height and I do think the difference would be tangible.

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Daniel Craig is one of the most badass 5'10"- dudes there is. He has style and a calm presence (ladies value these qualities just as much as they do height according to polls - excluding extreme short statures like 5'3" guys and shorter). The guy is gangster in any photo and never does the fake smile bull  other celebs do. I would rather have his or Depp's style and cool at 5'10" than be a plain 6'0" dude.
https://www.google.com/search?q=daniel+craig&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Egt3U-W_B63UsAS-24GgDA&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=775
And for the Bond films he only had to wear lifts for a scene or two.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/20/daniel-craig-forced-to-we_n_113893.html
And he brushed it off like a boss.

Would I want super swag as well as be 6'0" tho? Definitely, and I work on swag (combination of personality, style, control, etc.) and fitness a lot. But I would not want the 6'0" mark if it means having a 2nd highly evasive surgery or 1 extremely unhealthy and dangerous surgery. I would have 1 conservative surgery to get 5'10" and then enjoy life until an easier way of increasing height comes around, such as stem cell matrix implanting, if I still cared.
Slim_tim, you said average in 10 years would be 5'11"? I agree, maybe even 6'0", but by then there will be easier ways to get taller than CLL or just better forms of it and more experienced doctors. If you can do 1 operation to be average now I would do it but hold off on 2nd while getting your life in order and working on other aspects of yourself. Then again your neurosis is so bad. We all have it to a varying degree, but yours seems very extreme and self-sabotaging. And about those 2 Lautner girls, dude, they were unhappy with themselves because they felt like Amazons next to their perfectly average sized dream boy. I can't believe you care about what 2 lanky girls have to say about an aesthetic guy slamming tons of pvssy and droppin monster tips. This is why I know it's extreme in your case. Did you see a therapist about this? I'm serious.