The difference between men and women

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 01, 2014, 05:11:54 PMbut if your logic holds true, then the absolute biggest and tallest dude should be the most dangerous or unbeatable, which is not true at all.

The same way a skilled 6'0 foot guy can have a definite advantage in fighting against a skilled 7'2 guy, a 5'10 guy can have a definite advantage over a skilled 6'4 guy. There are so many other factors in fighting that height is not nearly as important as you think.

At no point did I say the that height and fighting ability were linear. I said that 6'4 is probably the sweet spot all else being equal; tremendous grappling ability is still possible, whilst jab and reach and punching speed are all very high.

This extends to other sports:  6'0 - 6'4 is the "ideal" for most physical sports, but there will always be exceptions and geniuses.

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Quote from: mrtall on October 01, 2014, 06:33:57 PMAt no point did I say the that height and fighting ability were linear. I said that 6'4 is probably the sweet spot all else being equal; tremendous grappling ability is still possible, whilst jab and reach and punching speed are all very high.

This extends to other sports:  6'0 - 6'4 is the "ideal" for most physical sports, but there will always be exceptions and geniuses.

Thats only theory though, we have to many exceptions to that rule and there are also to many variables to take into account when determining fighting ability that we cannot say that any specific size is the best, and even if there was an ideal size, there would always exist people shorter than the proposed "ideal", that could beat them.

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 01, 2014, 06:47:37 PMThats only theory though, we have to many exceptions to that rule and there are also to many variables to take into account when determining fighting ability that we cannot say that any specific size is the best, and even if there was an ideal size, there would always exist people shorter than the proposed "ideal", that could beat them.

yes I accept that at the elite level.

But for you or me, being tall is a massive advantage to staying out of trouble. Being tall and ripped is intimidating and average idiots won't risk picking on you.. whereas my shorter friends (5-6-5'9) get picked on occassionally in public settings despite being stockier

And if they do I can keep them at bay with my 2 metre jab. The odds of coming across a specialist MMA fighter are pretty low.

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Quote from: mrtall on October 01, 2014, 07:06:48 PMyes I accept that at the elite level.

But for you or me, being tall is a massive advantage to staying out of trouble. Being tall and ripped is intimidating and average idiots won't risk picking on you.. whereas my shorter friends (5-6-5'9) get picked on occassionally in public settings despite being stockier

And if they do I can keep them at bay with my 2 metre jab. The odds of coming across a specialist MMA fighter are pretty low.

Yeah i cant really argue with that, although in a street fight it would be easier for them to punch/kick you in the groin, considering the smaller guys  are likely to be significantly faster than a guy your size.

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Quote from: mrtall on October 01, 2014, 07:06:48 PMBeing tall and ripped is intimidating

And thus more taunting and provocative. And so is your attitude. You'll get in trouble if you keep it up, your long limbs won't compensate for your ignorance. Mark my words.

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Exilde, if his fighting prowess won't make him feel good about his height, then what will?

Sometimes ckiness in small doses can be a healthy thing. It sure makes for good discussion here.

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Quote from: exclide on October 01, 2014, 07:40:47 PMAnd thus more taunting and provocative. And so is your attitude. You'll get in trouble if you keep it up, your long limbs won't compensate for your ignorance. Mark my words.

Absolute rubbish. And no, I won't mark your words. I've been 6'7 for 15 years and not a SINGLE person has tried it on once.

Get over your own insecurity, the fact is when you get to this height, the intimidation factor is just super strong.. I would not pick a fight with anybody powerful and >6'3+ and for good reason, I suggest you don't either.

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 01, 2014, 07:26:27 PMYeah i cant really argue with that, although in a street fight it would be easier for them to punch/kick you in the groin, considering the smaller guys  are likely to be significantly faster than a guy your size.

Actually I would say I'm faster than average.. 5% bodyfat, and pretty strong for bodyweight.

In my experience in fighting, smaller guys haven't been able to get that close, it might seem like its the case,
but jab has kept them at bay as its quite a risk coming in that close. I haven't fought a real heavyweight before though, I suspect they could breach my defences pretty easily, but 16 stone guys are rare and for good reason most people will avoid getting into trouble with them!

Anyway the point is more that height and build are satisfactory deterrants to threats. That is why its great and women feel safe with you.

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Quote from: mrtall on October 02, 2014, 04:36:17 AMActually I would say I'm faster than average.. 5% bodyfat, and pretty strong for bodyweight.

In my experience in fighting, smaller guys haven't been able to get that close, it might seem like its the case,
but jab has kept them at bay as its quite a risk coming in that close. I haven't fought a real heavyweight before though, I suspect they could breach my defences pretty easily, but 16 stone guys are rare and for good reason most people will avoid getting into trouble with them!

Anyway the point is more that height and build are satisfactory deterrants to threats. That is why its great and women feel safe with you.

Like some other guy in this thread said, i would be more intimidated by a medium height and big stocky dude, rather than a very tall guy but with average build. But maybe this is because i know quite a lot about fighting compared to the average guy.

Also, if the smaller guy can get past one of your jabs they will be on the inside already, and also many guys can eat a jab pretty decently without going down, its not a powerpunch. If they get on the inside, you with your height will have big problems preventing them from destroying your groin with low blows. The best you could do at this point is downward elbows but if they are smart they can hide their head under your armpit to make that very difficult to land for you.

Btw im not arguing social perception of height, thats a different subject and has been done already. Im arguing fighting prowess here. And height is not nearly as significant of an advantage here.

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For fighting,  physical skills > height difference between a average and tall guy.   

A trained fighter would duck your punches and lock your arms to break them.  The fight would be over in 15 seconds.  The average guy doesn't do this, so it's just about not pissing off the wrong guy.   You also have no chance in a street fight if 3 guys attack you with weapons

The best fighting is no fighting unless you do it for a living.  lol.