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Posted on May 17, 2014, 9:46 am
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Quote from: Slim_tim on May 16, 2014, 11:28:53 PM


Tom hardy i like him..good acting skills. My 6'1 friend even pointed out in the car that they should have used someone taller than hardy in the dark knight rises (bane). And yes he wears lifts to get to what? : 5'11, exactly what i have been saying all along. If the ladies found out his real height they would not be as interested in him ( the facebook incident with taylor lautner and 2 female fans who where taller than him "omg not okay"). mark wahlberg is 5'8. but mark wahlberg is badass no matter what height he is so he do not count because "guys" like him got it straight at any height.

But i am no Mark wahlberg neither is 70% of the population and do not forget he was a looser in jail until he saw his brother on tv.

And said to himself "wtf am im doing" so he started working out and had awesome genetic and muscle growth and started singing as marky mark and got his way into the buisness that way. That is his contribution to the series Entourage.

my sister is as tall as me. My friends little brother is already taller than him at 6'1, my other friends little brother is also already taller at 6'0. I went to pick up my little sis and her friends looked like kenyan sprinters with long legs and short torso. Trust me there is a reason im telling you that the average height is rising....fast. And you can expect the average height in western countries to rise atleast 2-3 inchest. And add the oncoming generation of patients that wants LL, yeah i would boldly state that the average will be 5'11 for guys in 10 years.

Yes girls 5'7 and below will not notice the difference between 5'10 and 5'11..until she puts her heels on then ask her again.


You can be alpha at 5'10 no doubt about it...until that 6'3 steppes into the room. Then it comes down to alphanism? lol


Wrong again Tim, The reason he needed lifts for the Bane character is because the character is described as being 6'2, taller than Batman. The fact that he pulled it off so good in the movies (they used camera tricks and lifts but still) is more of a credit to what can be done at his real height rather than a negative.

The point is that you can get famous at a short height, and at 5'10 you wouldnt even be considered short. And if you make it to that level height becomes even less of a problem.

For us average guys, 5'10 is still easily enough, otherwise girls would have a very small pool of men to choose from if thy where that picky that they only want 6'0 and taller. 

Also your own anecdotes and experiences mean very little when it comes to averages of whole countries etc, average height will definitely not increase by 2 or 3 inches in 10 years. Like i said maybe 1 inch increase to the averafe in 30 years in developed nations. Because short people are more plentiful than people over 6'0, so what would make you think that tall people have more kids when they are outnumbered? And nutrition isnt improving in the west because we already have access to all the nutrients and healthcare we need unlike countries like India.

And if the average will be 5'11 in 30 years in some nations that are already very tall, then that doesnt bother me because its such a small difference between that and 5'10.

Also unless that girl who is 5'7 used heels that made her 5'10, she still wouldnt care about 1 inch, especially considering that many girls only care that their guys are taller than them without heels.

A 5'10 guys could dominate a 6'3 guy depending on personality and build. There arent many 6'3 guys out there regardless. Also at 5'10 you wont be called out for short man syndrome but rather be called brave for standing up to a much bigger guy, while the 6'3 guy will be looked as as a coward if he tries to belittle you.

5'10 Daniel Cormier destroyed plenty of talented 6'2+ individuals in Strikeforce and the UFC. Once you become that tall, you start to lose significant speed in comparison to smaller guys, and speed kills. 

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Posted on May 17, 2014, 11:11 am
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Yeah 5'10 in my book is perfect for an average bloke...

I don't know how much fighting skills counts in the dating world.. Nowadays no one fights it's just lots of posing  :and intimidating..  That's where the advantage of being tall is.. You don't have to prove a thing. So what if you are as skilled as Bruce Lee? Not gonna walk around half nked or challenge everyone in a pub to exert my dominance.. Would be tiring to do that all the time.. Look at all the action stars most of them wouldnt survive a fight in real situation but it's the look as usual.. Posturing with the benefits with no consequence.

Back in the middle ages yeah maybe I would say it's more balanced as you could kill ur taller opponents if you were a short dictator, but now even without coming to blows I would say most poeple would vote in favour of the taller dude if both are say of equal fitness.. It's pecking order established without violence and isn't that what the world wants,  whether it's fair to the bettee fighter or not.

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Posted on May 17, 2014, 1:09 pm
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Quote from: leonidas on May 17, 2014, 11:11:29 AMYeah 5'10 in my book is perfect for an average bloke...

I don't know how much fighting skills counts in the dating world.. Nowadays no one fights it's just lots of posing  :and intimidating..  That's where the advantage of being tall is.. You don't have to prove a thing. So what if you are as skilled as Bruce Lee? Not gonna walk around half nked or challenge everyone in a pub to exert my dominance.. Would be tiring to do that all the time.. Look at all the action stars most of them wouldnt survive a fight in real situation but it's the look as usual.. Posturing with the benefits with no consequence.

Back in the middle ages yeah maybe I would say it's more balanced as you could kill ur taller opponents if you were a short dictator, but now even without coming to blows I would say most poeple would vote in favour of the taller dude if both are say of equal fitness.. It's pecking order established without violence and isn't that what the world wants,  whether it's fair to the bettee fighter or not.


The point is that us shorter guys knowing that we can beat taller guys in a fight matters for our confidence, which will shine through as genuine if we truly believe in it. Also UFC is quite popular these days so im sure several of those tall douches who think they can intimidate anyone are aware of that there are plenty of shorter folks around that could potentially beat the   out of them, which will make them hesitant if a short guy comes up to them (because the tall guy might not have any fighting skills and usually can get away with his size for intimidation, while if a short guy isnt intimidated it probably means he can fight)

And as long as you are tall enough to not be considered short, that means you can avoid being called out on napoleon complex and angry short guy compensating etc, then the crowd will often be in favour of the shorter and braver guy for standing up to the taller dude.

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Posted on May 17, 2014, 1:40 pm
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Quote from: Wannabegiant on May 17, 2014, 09:46:49 AMWrong again Tim, The reason he needed lifts for the Bane character is because the character is described as being 6'2, taller than Batman. The fact that he pulled it off so good in the movies (they used camera tricks and lifts but still) is more of a credit to what can be done at his real height rather than a negative.

The point is that you can get famous at a short height, and at 5'10 you wouldnt even be considered short. And if you make it to that level height becomes even less of a problem.

For us average guys, 5'10 is still easily enough, otherwise girls would have a very small pool of men to choose from if thy where that picky that they only want 6'0 and taller. 
There is a reason people like brad pitt who is naturally 5'11 wears lifts, they all do. They are that picky, some women even waits 20 years for that 6'0 guy. If that don't tell you the general consensus women have over height i don't know what is.


5'10 Daniel Cormier destroyed plenty of talented 6'2+ individuals in Strikeforce and the UFC. Once you become that tall, you start to lose significant speed in comparison to smaller guys, and speed kills.




Still don't know why they picked hardy for that roll, There is 39823 other guys that could have potrayed BANE THE MIGHTY much better than his rather meak perfomance. Heath as joker was epic and memorable. While bane is only remembered for the mask and voice rather than his personality and aura. Funny how heath/joker was 6'2 in the movie and that maybe gave us a subconscious effect of a villain.


Did not get that with Bane. The camera angels where boring and we all got that he was standing on a wooden box most of the shots. When the actuall fighting against batman was suppost to take place.. He was suppost to man handle batman to great ridicule just like in the comic books. Did not get that effect. Im not a fan of Nolans way of portraying Batman. It seems to be shoot the same way as inception all the time.. The music. the takes, generic boring takes. Can't wait until the revamp of Batman and they actually make it COMIC BOOK STYLE and throw reason out the window, Screw character development that is not needed in Batman movies,  and only detracts from the main story and wastes minutes that could been given to epic fight scenes.



Lol the unawarness is strong in this one. The girls pick partners specifically so they can wear heels and be shorter. Ever been at the club being the same height as a girl in heels and she says. "eeww hes short" like her brain does not understand she is standing on heels..

YOU think she wouldn't care. I guess you have not seen the quick study on youtube. They picked 500 women and let them custom pick their ideal partner. At the end as a conclusion the Dr said..Don't worry about getting flashy clothes, going to the gym, getting a new car....Be tall. He could have said Period, with that tone and look he had on his face.

There is a reason people like brad pitt who is naturally 5'11 wears lifts, they all do. They are that picky, some women even waits 20 years for that 6'0 guy. If that don't tell you the general consensus women have over height i don't know what is.

Actually there are alot of people over 6'0 than there are guys that actually are 6'0. You are not tall at 5'10 so you might be called out to have napoleon complex but not just as severe as the 5'7 would get it.
If it is two 5'10 guys fighting then it's different in perception.

5'10 Daniel cormier would have been man handled by the master alistairr overeemm in the first round.

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Posted on May 17, 2014, 2:10 pm
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Quote from: IamAndrew on May 17, 2014, 07:18:30 AMDaniel Craig is one of the most badass 5'10"- dudes there is. He has style and a calm presence (ladies value these qualities just as much as they do height according to polls - excluding extreme short statures like 5'3" guys and shorter). The guy is gangster in any photo and never does the fake smile bull  other celebs do. I would rather have his or Depp's style and cool at 5'10" than be a plain 6'0" dude.


https://www.google.com/search?q=daniel+craig&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Egt3U-W_B63UsAS-24GgDA&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=775
And for the Bond films he only had to wear lifts for a scene or two.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/20/daniel-craig-forced-to-we_n_113893.html
And he brushed it off like a boss.

Would I want super swag as well as be 6'0" tho? Definitely, and I work on swag (combination of personality, style, control, etc.) and fitness a lot. But I would not want the 6'0" mark if it means having a 2nd highly evasive surgery or 1 extremely unhealthy and dangerous surgery. I would have 1 conservative surgery to get 5'10" and then enjoy life until an easier way of increasing height comes around, such as stem cell matrix implanting, if I still cared.
Slim_tim, you said average in 10 years would be 5'11"? I agree, maybe even 6'0", but by then there will be easier ways to get taller than CLL or just better forms of it and more experienced doctors. If you can do 1 operation to be average now I would do it but hold off on 2nd while getting your life in order and working on other aspects of yourself. Then again your neurosis is so bad. We all have it to a varying degree, but yours seems very extreme and self-sabotaging. And about those 2 Lautner girls, dude, they were unhappy with themselves because they felt like Amazons next to their perfectly average sized dream boy. I can't believe you care about what 2 lanky girls have to say about an aesthetic guy slamming tons of pvssy and droppin monster tips. This is why I know it's extreme in your case. Did you see a therapist about this? I'm serious.


The suave bond look Daniel Craigs tries out would not work in the real world. He is ugly and not tall. He can't play the perception of a Tall, good looking dude. It has it's limits. He tries and it "works" because he is famous. And maybe at your regular bar downtown 30+women. Younger...forget it man. The fashioned sensed tanned 6'0 will just excude more energy then Daniel can.
Also Johnny depp most be the most overated face i have ever seen . Not even good looking. More metro looking. But a "true" male would step into the room. Johnny depp would not make it..maybe in the 90's but not in todays era of percieved masculinity. Yeah i don't blame anyone for wearing lifts.

I don't care what they think i am just being a awarness sponge picking up information and making decisions out of them, They don't seem unhappy on the picture both smiling and attractive. Actually Lautner looked more depressed with his cap down hiding his face (could be his famous status though). He is only slaying tons of pvssy because he is famous. Otherwise we would all be slaying tons of pvssy everyday.

Nah the therapist would only come to the same unwilling conclusion as me after a 3 hour talk with him. therapy is more for childhood trauma..kidnapping situations. Stuff like that. There is nothing he can do to help. Unless it's snapp his fingers and give me 4 inches. That would be awesome.
And if you met me you would not think i am insecure since im "not". What im talking about here is just my inner most observation of the world.
I can go all mediocre with my answers like "5'10, yeah great height, im sure is better at basketball now lolol". And not give my personal view on it, while it might seem "insecure" to do so.

No there will be no easier way. What you have in the world today is what will be in this world 20 years from now. The powers that be could not give a fk about finding a cure for their lifestock. And i agree i myself will probably only do 1 surgery to 5'9 and call it a day. But that does not neglect the subconscious status you get when you are 5'11.

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Posted on May 17, 2014, 3:41 pm
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Quote from: Slim_tim on May 17, 2014, 01:40:37 PM

Still don't know why they picked hardy for that roll, There is 39823 other guys that could have potrayed BANE THE MIGHTY much better than his rather meak perfomance. Heath as joker was epic and memorable. While bane is only remembered for the mask and voice rather than his personality and aura. Funny how heath/joker was 6'2 in the movie and that maybe gave us a subconscious effect of a villain.


Did not get that with Bane. The camera angels where boring and we all got that he was standing on a wooden box most of the shots. When the actuall fighting against batman was suppost to take place.. He was suppost to man handle batman to great ridicule just like in the comic books. Did not get that effect. Im not a fan of Nolans way of portraying Batman. It seems to be shoot the same way as inception all the time.. The music. the takes, generic boring takes. Can't wait until the revamp of Batman and they actually make it COMIC BOOK STYLE and throw reason out the window, Screw character development that is not needed in Batman movies,  and only detracts from the main story and wastes minutes that could been given to epic fight scenes.



Lol the unawarness is strong in this one. The girls pick partners specifically so they can wear heels and be shorter. Ever been at the club being the same height as a girl in heels and she says. "eeww hes short" like her brain does not understand she is standing on heels..

YOU think she wouldn't care. I guess you have not seen the quick study on youtube. They picked 500 women and let them custom pick their ideal partner. At the end as a conclusion the Dr said..Don't worry about getting flashy clothes, going to the gym, getting a new car....Be tall. He could have said Period, with that tone and look he had on his face.

There is a reason people like brad pitt who is naturally 5'11 wears lifts, they all do. They are that picky, some women even waits 20 years for that 6'0 guy. If that don't tell you the general consensus women have over height i don't know what is.

Actually there are alot of people over 6'0 than there are guys that actually are 6'0. You are not tall at 5'10 so you might be called out to have napoleon complex but not just as severe as the 5'7 would get it.
If it is two 5'10 guys fighting then it's different in perception.

5'10 Daniel cormier would have been man handled by the master alistairr overeemm in the first round.


majority of people i talked where impressed with Hardys performance, everybody was talking about what an amazing villain Bane was and comparing him to the joker, even though the Joker overall was a better villain it had nothing to do with his height. It was very hard to notice Bane being short and hard to notice the joker being tall despite the actor being very tall.

Its obvious i have more awareness than you, and apparantly more club experience. Majority of girls ive met do not care if they are similar in height to their boyfriend with heels, and ive seen many girls at clubs with reaally high heels dancing with guys slightly shorter  than them with their heels on, and ive danced and hooked up with plenty of such girls too.

And that study doesnt say much about real life, of course if you are allowed to pick the perfect qualities in your partner you would do so, but in real life you can hardly be that picky and people need to realize that nobody will be ideal or perfect for one another, there will always be flaws and things that differ from what you might want, what matters is the overall package. Many girls might prefer a 6'2 height over a 6'0, but in reality if they meet a 6'0 guy they wouldnt care at all if he was shorter than their ideal as long as he had some other quality that was attractive.

People over 6 feet will be the minority in pretty much any country with a few exceptions. Brad Pitt hardly wears lifts because he needs to, i doubt he always wear them but maybe he likes the feel of those shoes? maybe he hangs around some super tall people, regardless it would hardly matter in his life if he was an inch taller or not, at least not when it comes to his options in life.

A 5'10 guy would be considered tall by most girls. And while the really tall guy might call out the 5´10 guy for having napoleon complex, most of the crowd would not think like that especially not girls, because a 5'10 guy will hardly ever look short in a group of people where 95% of the time a 6'4 guy will be in the height minority. They would simply look at the 5'10 guy as an average sized guy with giant balls, while the 6'4 guy looks like a tool in case he is the one that started to provoke the smaller guy.

Ans you obviously dont know much about fighting. Alistair overoid has been knocked out twice in a row since he got busted for elevated artificial testosterone. He is much bigger than cormier but lacks a gas tank and their styles favor cormier. Alisteroid would get KTFO in the second round when his gastank is empty.

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Posted on Sep 30, 2014, 10:43 pm
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Funny reading this thread where I was considering tibias. Your mindset changes so much once you aren't living with fantasies and are actually lengthening.

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Posted on Oct 1, 2014, 9:47 am
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Quote from: Wannabegiant on May 17, 2014, 09:46:49 AM5'10 Daniel Cormier destroyed plenty of talented 6'2+ individuals in Strikeforce and the UFC. Once you become that tall, you start to lose significant speed in comparison to smaller guys, and speed kills.


Yes there are exceptions of this Tyson etc, however it takes a lot of very specific training... grappling or sensational explosiveness on the inside to overcome the lack of reach.

In a typical situation, the average guy is not trained for this. So the tall guy has a big advantage compared to the short guy in 90% of cases.

I can tell you that at my height NOBODY f**ks with you period. I can be really cky sometimes in social situations, yet NOBODY has ever picked a fight with me in 15 years at 6'3+. The last time I was in a fight was in college with a 5'10 guy and although he was very fit, its was so easy so avoid his punches it was almost unfair, not to mention the horrible angle at which the punches were angled back at his face.

For those of you looking to get taller, this is an advantage I hope you enjoy.

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Posted on Oct 1, 2014, 10:34 am
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Quote from: mrtall on October 01, 2014, 09:47:33 AMIn a typical situation, the average guy is not trained for this. So the tall guy has a big advantage compared to the short guy in 90% of cases.

I knew one guy of your height. He's been really cky and one day he was messing around with some 170 cm guy, acting all that superior, talking s**t to him, like "lol, what you gonna do to me", the 170 cm guy delivered an explosive uppercut, while the tall one still had his mouth open, teeth connected and his tongue dropped on the ground, blood was spilling from his mouth and he dropped, hit the ground and died (Intracranial hemorrhage). The 170 cm guy got 2 years for unintentional murder.

What I'm saying is, while indeed height can give you an advantage in ring, but in real life there are no rules. Don't be overconfident about something you shouldn't be. After all there're knives, guns and expandable batons.

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Posted on Oct 1, 2014, 10:52 am
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Quote from: mrtall on October 01, 2014, 09:47:33 AMYes there are exceptions of this Tyson etc, however it takes a lot of very specific training... grappling or sensational explosiveness on the inside to overcome the lack of reach.

In a typical situation, the average guy is not trained for this. So the tall guy has a big advantage compared to the short guy in 90% of cases.

I can tell you that at my height NOBODY f**ks with you period. I can be really cky sometimes in social situations, yet NOBODY has ever picked a fight with me in 15 years at 6'3+. The last time I was in a fight was in college with a 5'10 guy and although he was very fit, its was so easy so avoid his punches it was almost unfair, not to mention the horrible angle at which the punches were angled back at his face.

For those of you looking to get taller, this is an advantage I hope you enjoy.


Actually, your estimates are very wrong, there are WAY more people around 5'10 that are explosive and athletic compared to people are 6'3+ that are athletic, in terms of sheer numbers. Simply because the average man is much closer to 5'10 in height while 6'3+ guys are very rare in comparison.

Just look at the UFC, the most athletic guys are in the lower weight divisions, while the HW and LHW divisions are very lacking in roster size as well as young and new incoming talent. The HW division has maybe around 30 guys and most of them outside the top 10 are just overweight plodding dudes with very little athleticism.

Most big guys that are athletic end up in the NFL and NBA, sure but they are still way less than 1% of the population.

So considering most people are not athletic out there, if you face a 6'3 guy its very likely that he wont be athletic, strong and big sure but that isnt enough to be considered athletic, most of them are slow.

I will agree that a 5'10 untrained guy would have a disadvantage over a 6'3 untrained guy, but then again an untrained guy with no experience is unlikely to pick a fight with a much larger/taller dude, and a little bit of extra skill/athleticism can easily overcome height as we have seen many many times in combat sports.

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