Just a factoid here for those who like numbers. He told us he gets ~30 emails a week from prospective patients asking him to treat them. He's done 8 cosmetic LLs in total this year. Sounds like 8 / (26x30) = 1%. He takes 1% of cases... looks like he's leaving a lot of cash on the table for someone who only cares about money (*sarcasm*)...
Quote from: 6FeetSoon on July 06, 2017, 01:32:35 AMJust a factoid here for those who like numbers. He told us he gets ~30 emails a week from prospective patients asking him to treat them. He's done 8 cosmetic LLs in total this year. Sounds like 8 / (26x30) = 1%. He takes 1% of cases... looks like he's leaving a lot of cash on the table for someone who only cares about money (*sarcasm*)...
If that's true then which are his criteria of choosing patients?
What a 5.9 guy like you has that makes him suitable for LL and don't have it the other 99% of patients?
I respect Rozbruch but doing only LL in 1% of people want to get surgery with him is absolutely crap.
Also, 30 people a week maybe are doing LL in the whole world, it is impossible for so much people to actually do LL with one specific doctor.
Most of them would just email him to ask general questions, not for a date to do a surgery.
So we better not say exaggerations about doctors that even though are respectable, they are still geting money from that as almost all doctors who are doing LL do that for money, unless they do it only in very short men or dwarves. Not a 5.9 man like you.
Quote from: 6FeetSoon on July 06, 2017, 01:21:00 AMExactly... which is the opposite of "The only way they will not operate on you is if you are a crazy pain in the ass or they suspect there is a great possibility you will sue."
Try to stay consistent...
There is no inconsistency. The cosmetic cases are chosen because of money and low risk. The only function to the psychological test is to know which patients can endanger the process or the doctor. I dont think any cosmetic LL doctor does this surgery out of principle, if they did, they would prioritize dwarfs. They would not operate someone like you. If Dr Rozbruch refuses patients its because he doesnt have the time, or you / insurance paid more money
Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on July 06, 2017, 02:21:44 AMThere is no inconsistency. The cosmetic cases are chosen because of money and low risk. The only function to the psychological test is to know which patients can endanger the process or the doctor. I dont think any cosmetic LL doctor does this surgery out of principle, if they did, they would prioritize dwarfs. They would not operate someone like you. If Dr Rozbruch refuses patients its because he doesnt have the time, or you / insurance paid more money
We all pay the same but thanks. (it doesn't matter to HSS if the money comes from out of pocket or insurance, the fees they receive are the same)
And dwarfism (achondroplasia) is a medical condition so that is processed under his normal practice.
The data suggests that he performs on all people that he gets an email on. He can't take everyone in as patients so it doesn't matter the amount of emails he gets its the amount of surgeries he's performed this year as the benchmark. Doubt it is 1%.
That being said I also doubt he is money hungry over CLL. Malpractice is very real in the US and he'd be stupid to take on more than he can handle. But is money an incentive, of course.
...now that we've veered way off topic, again.
The only way to know if this just height dysphoria is after the lengthening, if you want to fix everything, there is something more.Maybe the main mental illness here is depression, but that is caused by the short height in most of the cases, in negative cases is just not our problem, we are not here to give therapy, just to learn more about the surgery.
Well to return to topic... we know a lot of people here suffer from several degrees of depression and social fobia. This can be a result of short stature due to discrimination and can become a vicious circle in which these conditions can alter our own body image, which in turn makes us feel more depressed.
There are posters like Body Builder who try to argue logically that people of average or more than average should not do this surgery, while other people say 5'7 , 5'8, etc. Afterwards, a LL of average height or more tries to defend their position because of tallness of family, feeling of looking the rest from above, etc.
What we all have here is an OVERVALUED IDEA, that being taller will bring more women, more respect, and overall better life. It is an exaggerated belief which can be partially true but a lot of people here are fixated to the point that it becomes the main target of their life. When they argue they are not being logical, they are acting because of their emotions. For them LL is the solution to those negative feelings. So, I don't think people above average are crazy or mentally ill necessarily but they do have one idea that is bordering on delusional.
This thing only makes you taller with all the benefits, but id you are expecting to be Superman, this shouldnt be your choice.
Quote from: onemorefoot on July 06, 2017, 04:12:19 AMwe are not here to give therapy, just to learn more about the surgery.
AMEN!
Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on July 06, 2017, 04:20:08 AMWell to return to topic... we know a lot of people here suffer from several degrees of depression and social fobia. This can be a result of short stature due to discrimination and can become a vicious circle in which these conditions can alter our own body image, which in turn makes us feel more depressed.
There are posters like Body Builder who try to argue logically that people of average or more than average should not do this surgery, while other people say 5'7 , 5'8, etc. Afterwards, a LL of average height or more tries to defend their position because of tallness of family, feeling of looking the rest from above, etc.
What we all have here is an OVERVALUED IDEA, that being taller will bring more women, more respect, and overall better life. It is an exaggerated belief which can be partially true but a lot of people here are fixated to the point that it becomes the main target of their life. When they argue they are not being logical, they are acting because of their emotions. For them LL is the solution to those negative feelings. So, I don't think people above average are crazy or mentally ill necessarily but they do have one idea that is bordering on delusional.
I totally agree. We all believe to a certain extent that being taller will bring more women, more respect, and overall better life otherwise none of us would consider LL or be on this forum. But you're absolutely right, it is not a magic pill. It won't get rid of all your problems. It's like taking cough medicine to try to cure cancer.
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