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Posted on Jul 6, 2017, 6:40 am
#51

Quote from: Body Builder on July 05, 2017, 11:33:57 AMHaving plastic surgeries is one thing.
Really needing plastic surgeries to fix an aesthetic problem is another thing and that makes the difference between having a mental illness or having a real problem that you want to improve.

If someone has 30% fat he is a good candidate for a liposuction. If someone has 12% fat and wants a liposuction, he is ill.
The same happens between a 5.5 and a 6ft men who want LL. The first one can really improve his life and has real reasons to risk for LL while the second is just mentally ill as he risks to improve something that is not even a problem.
Things are that obvious for me.


Exactly this is common sense. Anyone over 5'10 who is getting leg lengthening has a mental problem.

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Posted on Jul 6, 2017, 7:17 am
#52

What if you come from NL Where the main hieght is around 6-6,1 and you Are around 5,10

Thats the same as doing it at 5,8 in a contries Where the main hieght is 5,10

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Posted on Jul 6, 2017, 7:45 am
#53

Quote from: jojo on July 06, 2017, 07:17:25 AMWhat if you come from NL Where the main hieght is around 6-6,1 and you Are around 5,10

Thats the same as doing it at 5,8 in a contries Where the main hieght is 5,10


Yes if you are below average in your area that is fine. Do people call you short a lot at 5'10? Just wondering.

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Posted on Jul 6, 2017, 8:26 am
#54

My principal view is that everyone on this forum are like people looking to get a nose job done. Whether or not you have a nice nose to begin with is entirely subjective, depending on your view of yourself and with whom you're comparing to I.e. country of origin, family, friends. Except unlike the nose job, this is incredibly expensive as well as temporally and  physically demanding. And that you can compare height quantitavly unlike noses, but I digress

Height or lack of carries no physiological problems (unless you suffer from medically recognised gigantism or dwarfism) but doing this surgery will. So is anyone regardless of height 100% sane to sacrifice a perfectly functioning body for height? Is absolutely no one "mentally retarded"? At the end of the, less judgement is better and do what makes you happy.

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Posted on Jul 6, 2017, 9:27 am
#55

I agree. If a person who was 6,4 did LL
I Can say i wouldent envy Him. I would not judge.
If he was a prick walking around telling everyone under 6,4 was short i would just Walk away becuse he Will Face alot of walls in life

So Yes less judge is better

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Posted on Jul 6, 2017, 11:20 am
#56

Quote from: Sibirsky on July 06, 2017, 08:26:46 AMMy principal view is that everyone on this forum are like people looking to get a nose job done. Whether or not you have a nice nose to begin with is entirely subjective, depending on your view of yourself and with whom you're comparing to I.e. country of origin, family, friends. Except unlike the nose job, this is incredibly expensive as well as temporally and  physically demanding. And that you can compare height quantitavly unlike noses, but I digress

Height or lack of carries no physiological problems (unless you suffer from medically recognised gigantism or dwarfism) but doing this surgery will. So is anyone regardless of height 100% sane to sacrifice a perfectly functioning body for height? Is absolutely no one "mentally retarded"? At the end of the, less judgement is better and do what makes you happy.

Someone who sacrifices a perfectly functioning body to become normal-average or close to in height sacrifices something to achieve something other that for most of us is more important than running fast or jumping very high etc.
But someone who sacrifices a perfectly functioning body to become taller than average or very tall simply sacrifices something for no benefit in reality.
So yes, the difference is big and I can accept for myself or other short guys (as I was too before LL) to be in the same category with insanes like Vader and maybe even you as you did 8cm in tibias with a starting height more than average in your country, only because we all did LL.

LL is not suitable for anyone. However, anyone can do it but most of the times the height of the patient is a clear evidence of his state of mind.

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Posted on Feb 4, 2018, 5:10 pm
#57

Quote from: Bander72 on July 05, 2017, 10:35:35 AMA topic dicussed heavily recently has been if mental disorders are the real causes that affect many users life. Be it from low self esteem or height neurosis we have all faced this to a degree.


If you could define only low self esteem as a mental illness (it is not one), then you could define the majority of the forum members as being mentally ill. That's why it's funny when you get some taller narcissists registering here and making posts on how they will finally get to be their 6'2 "true" selves, get the [number slash ten] women they "deserve" or whatever other bs they learned off the web, all after breaking their legs for it. They talk of the perfect life they're "entitled" to or have been "robbed of", but it just shows their (possibly literally) crippling insecurity. With that said, there's nothing wrong with having low self esteem, and for most it generally stems from real issues (like physical features, which may include height).

But yes, every man who's the average (or above) male height of the place he lives in has most likely other underlying issues. The most common ones are certainly BDD, depression, anxiety disorders and/or narcissistic personality disorder. It's much more important they give self-acceptance a try, as it could solve whatever pain they have without the risks. I don't think their height disqualifies them from CLL (it's their legs, life, and money), but it's obviously different for them. There are more complex factors like being an okay height for your country but under the average of your own ethnic group, but I'll leave that aside for now.

QuoteWhen in your opinion does it go to far to the point that they need to forget about the surgery and focus on getting help.


Most people will benefit from getting help if they went far enough down the rabbit hole to learn about CLL, no matter if actually very short or average. With that said, it's specially obvious/urgent that anyone who feels like they need to get CLL as soon as possible for them, despite being the average (or above) height for their country, needs to try to get help before even thinking about going through a procedure like this. You could call these people sick, as they will be willing to go to very bad doctors and risk so much. Ideally, no one should be going to bad doctors, but these people may not even benefit from it, even if it all goes well. In general, anyone who seems like they're about to make a bad, uninformed, hasty decision needs help first and foremost.

If this was an easy and cheap surgery where people magically get the height increase they want with the press of a button, my opinion would be very different. Too bad we are still not living in the times where people are easily able to look like whatever they want to look like.

This is also an interesting thread because it has more information on Rozbruch, and I know there have been more people looking into him recently.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2018, 10:18 am
#58

I can see why doctors would want to have a psyche evaluation with some of his/her patients. I personallty think anyone above five feet six should not do cosmetic limb lengthening. Below five six and living in western world height prejudice is often a factor. People who are five six and over and want to do CLL I think they may suffer from height dysphoria.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2018, 11:03 am
#59

Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 10, 2018, 10:18:56 AMI can see why doctors would want to have a psyche evaluation with some of his/her patients. I personallty think anyone above five feet six should not do cosmetic limb lengthening. Below five six and living in western world height prejudice is often a factor. People who are five six and over and want to do CLL I think they may suffer from height dysphoria.

Honestly I hate necroing, but in response to this I'll admit I probably did have some form of height dysphoria a few years back. Which only got worse when I had seen my 6'7+ cousin and my 6'2 dad after not seeing them for almost a decade. I guess in reality I'm only getting LL at 5'8 because I feel like I wanna even things out. It's not like I couldn't pull off 6'0-6'2 with my wingspan so I might as well get the procedure and be done with it so I can move on with my life.

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