Tibia LL, Femur LL, biomechanics and YOU

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on March 28, 2016, 11:16:15 PMWhere are your scientific studies about how horrible is ATL? You have said there are tons of studies that show how harmful it is, yet you never posted one. I look on the web and found two being done with people suffering from neuromuscular disease.

 I can understand your grief by your awful decision of docs... Dont throw it on others thx

I also would like to see these studies, but you still didn't answer crimsons point you just changed the topic. Answer his question.

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Quote from: theuprising on March 28, 2016, 11:18:02 PMI also would like to see these studies, but you still didn't answer crimsons point you just changed the topic. Answer his question.

What question? My proof? Frankly I dont since I havent done any medical research by myself but read others' medical research and have spoken to top notch surgeons.

My proofs about this being somewhat safe are the same as your proof of this being an apocalyptic surgery

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Tbike,

Before I reply, I wanna point out what members do when they can't actually reason logically

they try attacking you personally

You see it here

Tbike has zero evidence that patients recover fully.  The evidence on these forums contradicts  him

Yet  he  wants to believe anonymous people that emailed him.

Okay, that's fine for him, but not for me, and I doubt for anyone else

oh,  all you had to do was ask

https://www.aapc.com/blog/25426-keep-coding-grounded-for-gastrocnemius-recession/

http://lermagazine.com/article/return-of-strength-after-achilles-tendon-surgery

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3178860/


I could go on and on...

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Quote from: crimsontide on March 28, 2016, 11:31:24 PMTbike,

Before I reply, I wanna point out what members do when they can't actually reason logically

they try attacking you personally

You see it here

Tbike has zero evidence that patients recover fully.  The evidence on these forums contradicts  him

Yet  he  wants to believe anonymous people that emailed him.

Okay, that's fine for him, but not for me, and I doubt for anyone else

oh,  all you had to do was ask

https://www.aapc.com/blog/25426-keep-coding-grounded-for-gastrocnemius-recession/

http://lermagazine.com/article/return-of-strength-after-achilles-tendon-surgery

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3178860/


I could go on and on...

I answer you like I do because you mostly write nonsense.
 Anyway, those researches are done on people who had tendon trauma and had their tendon elongated while the length of the limb remained the same. Got anything related to limb lengthening (not must be cosmetic one)?

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Yes, nonsense. Very good argument

Now tbike wants studies done on those with elongated limbs, as if the lengthening of the tendon will suddenly switch from a negative to a positive outcome in this case

But let's go with Tbike, and assume no studies have been done on this specific issue

Should we conclude that all is okay??  Of course not. We should be wary of any procedure if there's no studies done on the patient population we happen to be a member of.... unless of course we want to be guinea pigs

Dr's have told me  achilles lengthening  produces WORSE outcomes on those that had limb lengthening, as it's an additional trauma to the soft tissue

All studies on achilles lengthening  suggest that push off power is reduced by lengthening

Nothing to suggest that would change because of   bone lengthening

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Quote from: crimsontide on March 28, 2016, 11:42:36 PMYes, nonsense. Very good argument

Now tbike wants studies done on those with elongated limbs, as if the lengthening of the tendon will suddenly switch from a negative to a positive outcome in this case

But let's go with Tbike, and assume no studies have been done on this specific issue

Should we conclude that all is okay??  Of course not. We should be wary of any procedure if there's no studies done on the patient population we happen to be a member of.... unless of course we want to be guinea pigs

Dr's have told me  achilles lengthening  produces WORSE outcomes on those that had limb lengthening, as it's an additional trauma to the soft tissue

All studies on achilles lengthening  suggest that push off power is reduced by lengthening

Nothing to suggest that would change because of   bone lengthening

I will quote you "WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?!?!?!?!"

 You speak like I have an agenda. I wonder what you think it is

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since I replied with studies, your turn

We all want to see the  case studies done on pre and post surgery athletic abilities of limb lengthening patients

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26186315


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16189316


First study is from the egyptian doc.. So I dont know how reliable it is

Second is of catagni which was published on a well respected journal

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*munches popcorn*
 

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Quote from: crimsontide on March 28, 2016, 11:42:36 PMYes, nonsense. Very good argument

Now tbike wants studies done on those with elongated limbs, as if the lengthening of the tendon will suddenly switch from a negative to a positive outcome in this case

But let's go with Tbike, and assume no studies have been done on this specific issue

Should we conclude that all is okay??  Of course not. We should be wary of any procedure if there's no studies done on the patient population we happen to be a member of.... unless of course we want to be guinea pigs

Dr's have told me  achilles lengthening  produces WORSE outcomes on those that had limb lengthening, as it's an additional trauma to the soft tissue

All studies on achilles lengthening  suggest that push off power is reduced by lengthening

Nothing to suggest that would change because of   bone lengthening

btw who are the doctors that told you about how ATL is disastrous? I want names... Because I can give you names to docs I have spoken to