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Posted on Mar 28, 2016, 11:58 pm
#41

Azhar university is a religious universty in egypt

i put no value in that study, and it does not even address  our topic

The question is not  " can we walk again"

the question is... 100% athletic full recovery

Those studies don't even begin to address this issue

Yes,  you can walk after this surgery, . I can walk too

I mean a study of athletic abilities before and after surgery

Neither of those shows  that at all..  Tell me the tests done to assess athletic abilities?

Vertical leap?

Sprints?

Broad jump? 

 Walking speed testing??

Explosive movement testing?

Lateral movement?

Medium distance running??


Nothing even remotely similar    occurred in those studies

Catagni  does x rays, and looks at a very short walk acros the room, and voila, success

I could pass that test too

How about squatting ability? How much could they squat or leg press before and after surgery?

These studies don't even  attempt to answer these questions, as that's not the aim of them

I've yet to see 1 study done on athletic ability



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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:01 am
#42

Oh, and regarding achilles lengthening

Dr Dror Paley has said explicitly to me in response to my question

"can    you recover to even 90%  after achilles lengthening?"

His answer was NO.  With gastroc, yes, achilles lengthening, no

Anyone here is free to email him, and see for yourself

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:03 am
#43

Quote from: crimsontide on March 28, 2016, 11:58:03 PMAzhar university is a religious universty in egypt

i put no value in that study, and it does not even address  our topic

The question is not  " can we walk again"

the question is... 100% athletic full recovery

Those studies don't even begin to address this issue

Yes,  you can walk after this surgery, . I can walk too

I mean a study of athletic abilities before and after surgery

Neither of those shows  that at all..  Tell me the tests done to assess athletic abilities?

Vertical leap?

Sprints?

Broad jump? 

 Walking speed testing??

Explosive movement testing?

Lateral movement?

Medium distance running??


Nothing even remotely similar    occurred in those studies

Catagni  does x rays, and looks at a very short walk acros the room, and voila, success

I could pass that test too

How about squatting ability? How much could they squat or leg press before and after surgery?

These studies don't even  attempt to answer these questions, as that's not the aim of them

I've yet to see 1 study done on athletic ability


So basically, you base your assertion that there is no possible athletic ability recovery on the lack of studies that say it is possible? You do understand that if there are no studies that proove it is possible it also means there arent any studies that proove it's impossible. I dont use the indian docs as an excuse but as a fact. Most diaries in this and old forum done on external tibias were done with zero class indian surgeons. It's on those studies that you base your assertion. It's also on your own experience with another zero class surgeon, that believes that the cows in front of his clinic have special healing power, that ATL is disastrous.

 How do you know how catagni judges recovery? He has showed me vids of how he judges recovery in the end study. You are discrediting him based on nothing.

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:03 am
#44

Quote from: crimsontide on March 29, 2016, 12:01:35 AMOh, and regarding achilles lengthening

Dr Dror Paley has said explicitly to me in response to my question

"can    you recover to even 90%  after achilles lengthening?"

His answer was NO.  With gastroc, yes, achilles lengthening, no

Anyone here is free to email him, and see for yourself


e-mail him and ask him "than why his teacher thinks otherwise"

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:03 am
#45

I'll give you another

Dr. Robert Rozbruch

He will recommend against achilles lengthening as well, and suggest gastroc.

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:05 am
#46

Quote from: crimsontide on March 29, 2016, 12:03:55 AMI'll give you another

Dr. Robert Rozbruch

He will recommend against achilles lengthening as well, and suggest gastroc.


Barinov is also not against ATL if necessary

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:07 am
#47

Barinov?

Thought you were just railing against russian drs?

You mean the Dr of rgkey?  That Barinov?

You said top Dr's, not hacks

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:09 am
#48

Quote from: crimsontide on March 29, 2016, 12:07:34 AMBarinov?

Thought you were just railing against russian drs?

You mean the Dr of rgkey?  That Barinov?

You said top Dr's, not hacks


I dont consider him a hack. Your doctor was a hack (bagirov) (atleast by your description).

 I am against the indian docs that destroyed lives.

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:11 am
#49

Bagirov   didn't do my achilles lengthening

Dr shah did

Guess who was Shah's teacher??

Catagni of course

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Posted on Mar 29, 2016, 12:15 am
#50

Quote from: crimsontide on March 29, 2016, 12:11:47 AMBagirov   didn't do my achilles lengthening

Dr shah did

Guess who was Shah's teacher??

Catagni of course


I actually told catagni about your case with Shah. He doesnt remember who the doc is to be honest.

 Yes so Catagni is also incompetent... I get where this is going.

 Let's agree to disagree

 I wish you a good and fast recovery

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