Wannabegiants tibial lengthening in Moscow, Dr. Bagirov

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So how much time did you spent in externals overall and how much did you lengthen?

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Quote from: Taller on October 02, 2014, 11:31:52 AMYou're lucky that you haven't had complications with your muscles and nerves and that you are predicted to make a full recovery. You're lucky that your journey has gone so smoothly thus far. Hang in there. This is the final stretch.

Yeah i know youre right but considering i made all the research i could a year in advance and followed all the instructions completely and never took any risks, i think i should be able to expect this level of recovery. However i was really unlucky in that i had my knee injury from before on my left leg, which prevented me from putting as much weight onto it during lengthening since my muscles around the knee where weakened. This is most likely the reason why it took much longer for the left leg to recover, as well as the fact that i added 2 mm extra there to fix the length discrepancy.

Im confident i would have been done maybe a month ago already if i didnt have that knee injury..and life is gonna be really stressful for the reminder of this year since this took much longer than expected..Im also not used to doing stuff since i havent done so in 7 months, i wonder how i will handle studies and stuff in the beginning of my return.

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Quote from: exclide on October 02, 2014, 11:39:25 AMSo how much time did you spent in externals overall and how much did you lengthen?

Ive been in these frames for 7 months now, i had surgery mars 01, and i lengthened 4.3 cm on my right leg and 4.5 cm on my left leg.

Considering some of the timeframes other patients have been done here, this is a failure in terms of consolidation speed. I have walked a lot and eaten very healthy food for majority of the time frame. But since my right leg was done a month ago that makes it obvious to me that it was my knee injury which made my left leg lag behind so much. So its more unlucky circumstances rather than genes which made it take so long.

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 02, 2014, 11:44:54 AMIve been in these frames for 7 months now, i had surgery mars 01
Heh, and my surgery was at April 5. So I've been in frames for almost 6 months. I've lengthened 7.5cm and I still have no idea, when will I be able to take them off, even though I have 'better than average consolidation rate'. Did you use any calcium supplements? Like osteogenon, I've heard it's better than CC.

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Quote from: exclide on October 02, 2014, 11:53:25 AMHeh, and my surgery was at April 5. So I've been in frames for almost 6 months. I've lengthened 7.5cm and I still have no idea, when will I be able to take them off, even though I have 'better than average consolidation rate'. Did you use any calcium supplements? Like osteogenon, I've heard it's better than CC.

Yeah but arent you doing two segments? or are you planning to but havent started yet?

Anyway im very dissapointed with my timeframe, its looking to be 8 months because of my left leg, and that is way to long for 4.3 cm. I took calcium and vitamin D supplements every day and i had osteogenon for maybe a total of 3 months (i took one pill per day of those for as long as they lasted). Ate lots of fruit and vegetables, lots of protein (i only started taking protein powder shakes 4 months post op however, should have started sooner)

Im aware my doctor in russia before i did the surgery told me that 4 cm takes 6-9 months on average for their patients, but im aware of other patients completing this sooner. however as i said, unlike those patients i dont really need to be careful with my legs after frame removal, since they remove my frames after the bone is sufficiently healed for full weight bearing. So i at least dont have to worry about losing height or bending my bones.

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How does your right leg feel without the frame on?

How does it look? How are your scars at this point?

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Quote from: Taller on October 03, 2014, 12:28:58 AMHow does your right leg feel without the frame on?

How does it look? How are your scars at this point?

My right leg feels pretty great actually, i mean im still a little to scared to walk normally with it even though the doctors claim its safe to do it, but i tried push down on it a few times and it feels very stable, i cannot "feel" the bone at all so it is like pre LL, no pain or anything. In terms of appearance, it looks normal, but its definitely on the longer side of tibias, at least for a guy my height, im sure nobody will notice anything though.

And as far as scars go, i havent seen the scar where they put the large pin (i still have a patch over there), but the ones under the knee look like some kind of pimples now, they are a bit large but when they fall of it will probably look like some small dark spot only, in fact it doesnt even look surgical to me at this point, pretty awesome.

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Well that's great to hear! I'm glad that your LL has gone smoothly so far! I know it's been boring, and being pretty young myself, I do understand that for people in our age group patience can be one of the most difficult qualities to exhibit and truly appreciate , but you've really done a great job of being careful and your hard work will hopefully pay off really soon. You're definitely in the home stretch at this point.


How much has this whole procedure cost you up until this point?

And, yes, I agree that your tibiae would probably be long after 4.3CM but still within the normal range for your height. If you had done more than 5CM, they'd be longer than typical for your height, which can be pretty obvious when sitting down. That's why I'm going to do ~4,3CM on each segment myself. Long tibiae look pretty manly in my opinion, but they can quickly go from looking manly to unnatural if lengthened too much. It sounds like you hit the sweet spot, though.

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Quote from: Taller on October 03, 2014, 08:53:02 AMWell that's great to hear! I'm glad that your LL has gone smoothly so far! I know it's been boring, and being pretty young myself, I do understand that for people in our age group patience can be one of the most difficult qualities to exhibit and truly appreciate , but you've really done a great job of being careful and your hard work will hopefully pay off really soon. You're definitely in the home stretch at this point.


How much has this whole procedure cost you up until this point?

And, yes, I agree that your tibiae would probably be long after 4.3CM but still within the normal range for your height. If you had done more than 5CM, they'd be longer than typical for your height, which can be pretty obvious when sitting down. That's why I'm going to do ~4,3CM on each segment myself. Long tibiae look pretty manly in my opinion, but they can quickly go from looking manly to unnatural if lengthened too much. It sounds like you hit the sweet spot, though.

Thanks and yeah i know what you mean in terms of patience. However in my case, it feels like ive waited all my teen years to finally be happy with myself and start living like my friends did for all their life so far. Long before height became a problem i had other problems happen to me during my teens.

one of the things that happened was that i fractured my nose when playing football when i was 14 years old (elbow to the face), and i ended up getting excess cartilage in it after it healed, and the doctor told me it would go away eventually by itself and he didnt want to do any procedure to remove it right away because i was still growing. However it didnt go away and i looked like some witch with a small bulge on the side of my nose (mostly visible from my right side), so hid my face when i met new people quite a lot and i felt ugly and insecure back then, and some people would make fun of my appearance. When i turned 18 i finally got it removed with a cortison injection and my life changed for the better, but still because of those years i didnt make a lot of new friends and people still remembered me as the shy passive guy who nobody payed attention to.

Those years sucked as i was depressed about it daily. When i turned 18 and my face got cleaned up, i got motivated to improve my overall appearance, but not long after that i realized i was shorter than average and i already was at a disadvantage because of my lack of positive reputation. I felt inferior to most of my friends because of this. But all that has improved over the years as i worked on my education and my social game, and started to meet new people. But i felt i could never reach where i wanted without the height gain. Now i have no obstacles left after LL is done.

Im not sure but the surgery was 6450 euro, and i went to russia twice, so the tickets where below 1000 swedish kr per flight, so 4 flights total. i also payed ca 1000 (a little less) swedish kr for the medicine bag for the lengthening phase. other than that i havent spent much else, getting x-rays is very cheap in Sweden and if you have a certain card where you get marks every time you visit, you eventually get almost a year of completely free health care whenever you visit. So i made use of that.

Yeah, i think if i added more my tibia would have looked to long, so i think 4.3 was the sweet spot.

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 03, 2014, 09:12:40 AMThanks and yeah i know what you mean in terms of patience. However in my case, it feels like ive waited all my teen years to finally be happy with myself and start living like my friends did for all their life so far. Long before height became a problem i had other problems happen to me during my teens.

one of the things that happened was that i fractured my nose when playing football when i was 14 years old (elbow to the face), and i ended up getting excess cartilage in it after it healed, and the doctor told me it would go away eventually by itself and he didnt want to do any procedure to remove it right away because i was still growing. However it didnt go away and i looked like some witch with a small bulge on the side of my nose (mostly visible from my right side), so hid my face when i met new people quite a lot and i felt ugly and insecure back then, and some people would make fun of my appearance. When i turned 18 i finally got it removed with a cortison injection and my life changed for the better, but still because of those years i didnt make a lot of new friends and people still remembered me as the shy passive guy who nobody payed attention to.

Those years sucked as i was depressed about it daily. When i turned 18 and my face got cleaned up, i got motivated to improve my overall appearance, but not long after that i realized i was shorter than average and i already was at a disadvantage because of my lack of positive reputation. I felt inferior to most of my friends because of this. But all that has improved over the years as i worked on my education and my social game, and started to meet new people. But i felt i could never reach where i wanted without the height gain. Now i have no obstacles left after LL is done.

Im not sure but the surgery was 6450 euro, and i went to russia twice, so the tickets where below 1000 swedish kr per flight, so 4 flights total. i also payed ca 1000 (a little less) swedish kr for the medicine bag for the lengthening phase. other than that i havent spent much else, getting x-rays is very cheap in Sweden and if you have a certain card where you get marks every time you visit, you eventually get almost a year of completely free health care whenever you visit. So i made use of that.

Yeah, i think if i added more my tibia would have looked to long, so i think 4.3 was the sweet spot.
did bagirov confirm any loss?