Wannabegiants tibial lengthening in Moscow, Dr. Bagirov

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That's great WNB you're gonna take charge of your life from now on -I love it!
Agree that long tibia look manly and I'm happy you are having a good, if lenghty, recovery. Do you plan on posting more pictures or videos in the future?

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6500 is a very good price and he is a very good dr hope I can get the money soon

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Quote from: Hallijah on October 03, 2014, 12:36:03 PMdid bagirov confirm any loss?

You mean loss of height? His assistant confirmed i had lengthened 4.3 cm during my return check up in Moscow and he claimed to have fixed the length discrepency between the legs which i had pre surgery.

But then when i got home for consolidation phase i eventually was able to start walking quite well unaided. During this time it started to feel like my left leg was slightly shorter for some reason, like i was automatically leaning very slightly to my left to divide the pressure on both my feet evenly. So i added 2 mm extra to my left leg and it started to feel more symmetrical. After that when i went to the local doctor in Sweden, he claimed both my legs where the same length, but i dont know if he meant exactly the same length down to the mm.

And im sure i havent lost anything since i drew a line on a wall (where the top of my head ended) after my lengthening phase was done, and im still on that spot when i measure my height today.

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Quote from: Uppland on October 03, 2014, 01:23:25 PMThat's great WNB you're gonna take charge of your life from now on -I love it!
Agree that long tibia look manly and I'm happy you are having a good, if lenghty, recovery. Do you plan on posting more pictures or videos in the future?

Thank you my friend, well i when i get done i might upload a photo of my frame free legs for a limited time..but not sure. I wont be on this forum nearly as much as i have to work hard to get back into normal life. but i will give updates every 2 months or so, or more often depending on how fast the recovery goes. When i feel fully recovered i will post about it, possibly upload a video to show my ability, and then il probably try to forget about every height related thing permanently

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That's my dream as well: to reach a height I'm satisfied with and then just forget all about it. I had such a good life before these insecurities happiest I've been in my life. I really envy that you've reached your goal and look forward to some info on your physical recovery.

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sorry, the question may have been asked many times, don't you have any problems of coordination between your femurs and your tibias?

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Quote from: endomorphisme on October 21, 2014, 04:57:38 PMsorry, the question may have been asked many times, don't you have any problems of coordination between your femurs and your tibias?

I still have one frame left (on my left leg) but i can honestly say that apart from the added weight of the frame it feels almost like normal. My right leg feels normal and its easy to move it and i can move it fast, walking feels barely any different from before the surgery.

I do notice that i can feel that my tibia is slightly longer than it was before, my frame free right leg feels slightly heavier (although its such a minimal difference from pre LL that its almost not even worth mentioning). It doesnt seem to affect my balance at all, at least not for doing basic stuff like walking fast, standing on one leg, or going backwards or turning fast etc.

I havent tried running or jumping yet because i dont dare to do it until i know my bones are 100% hard enough to do it, but it feels like i could do it no problem already in terms of mobility and muscle strength.

it is probably because i added only 4.3 cm that i dont feel much difference in the legs, but im confident you will get used to the new length eventually even if you did more. But obviously the less you lengthen the closer you will be able to reach pre LL in terms of how your mobility feels and works.

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thank you for your answer.
I'm considering Russia too, guichet is too expensive, but i would love to do limb lenghtening with him since i'm french.
According to you what is the limit that must not be exceeded with tibial?
Did do you practice sport before?Do you think you will be able to resume sport like before LL?
I m reading your diary, and i think i will only consider 3 cm now, imo lenghtening more than 4 cm on your tibial is not a good idea, unless you did or consider femur.

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Quote from: endomorphisme on October 21, 2014, 08:43:53 PMthank you for your answer.
I'm considering Russia too, guichet is too expensive, but i would love to do limb lenghtening with him since i'm french.
According to you what is the limit that must not be exceeded with tibial?
Did do you practice sport before?Do you think you will be able to resume sport like before LL?
I m reading your diary, and i think i will only consider 3 cm now, imo lenghtening more than 4 cm on your tibial is not a good idea, unless you did or consider femur.

From all the info ive seen  on this, based on others diaries and surgeon comments, I think in general you should not exceed 6 cm on tibias. It ultimately depends on the original bone length of the patients tibias, i think the safe limit was said to be 15% or 20% increase of original bone length, but in most cases it seems big problems arise after 6 cm.

Also even if you have no complications over 6 cm, at this point im fairly confident that the difference will feel substantial compared to pre LL, it might not necessarily feel "worse" but im sure it will feel very different in terms of mechanics.

I dont think there is much difference doing 3 or 4 cm, in terms of how you recover ultimately, but for sure the less you lengthen the faster you will recover, and with 3 cm the difference compared to pre surgery should barely feel noticeable at all imo.

I did do sports before, football and some mma, but i didnt compete at a high level in either of them. Mainly because i never put all my attention to them, they where always just a side hobby for me while i focused on education and social stuff as i got older.

Im sure i will easily be able to reach that same level even after LL, to be honest with a small increase like i did, i only think you will notice any loss of athleticism at very high levels, like Sweden and his Taek wondo. So if you are a competing at a very high level in some sport i think you might notice some loss of ability, but i dont think it would be as big of a loss as you would expect.

But at the highest level its the small things that make the difference so i guess even a 1% loss of athleticism could change your career for the worse.

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 22, 2014, 12:42:58 AMFrom all the info ive seen  on this, based on others diaries and surgeon comments, I think in general you should not exceed 6 cm on tibias. It ultimately depends on the original bone length of the patients tibias, i think the safe limit was said to be 15% or 20% increase of original bone length, but in most cases it seems big problems arise after 6 cm.

Also even if you have no complications over 6 cm, at this point im fairly confident that the difference will feel substantial compared to pre LL, it might not necessarily feel "worse" but im sure it will feel very different in terms of mechanics.

I dont think there is much difference doing 3 or 4 cm, in terms of how you recover ultimately, but for sure the less you lengthen the faster you will recover, and with 3 cm the difference compared to pre surgery should barely feel noticeable at all imo.

I did do sports before, football and some mma, but i didnt compete at a high level in either of them. Mainly because i never put all my attention to them, they where always just a side hobby for me while i focused on education and social stuff as i got older.

Im sure i will easily be able to reach that same level even after LL, to be honest with a small increase like i did, i only think you will notice any loss of athleticism at very high levels, like Sweden and his Taek wondo. So if you are a competing at a very high level in some sport i think you might notice some loss of ability, but i dont think it would be as big of a loss as you would expect.

But at the highest level its the small things that make the difference so i guess even a 1% loss of athleticism could change your career for the worse.

You know we lengthen to change the perception, How are you expecting to change any  perception of yourself with a measly gain of only 4.5 cm. The way people respond to you will be the same. I guess you will be full of konfidenze so to change your physical reality to mirror your interior beliefs. But life dosnt work like that.