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Posted on Nov 16, 2021, 11:47 pm
#31

Quote from: thankscience on November 16, 2021, 11:03:49 PMBased on another post it seems the patient already had a rare underlying condition. I think there was already high risk, irrespective of the doctor.

I think it isn't wise to conclude the patien already had a rare underlying condition after s*** happened. A good surgeron with a good protocol should had performed comprehensive pre op tests so that the patient wouldn't qualify for the surgery.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 12:14 am
#32

Anyone can have complaints and deaths in a very long career.  The surgery didn't originate in America and no one should presume Americans are the best at it or have the most experience.  I don't know much about Dr. Paley. I have no doubt he is excellent. I didn't consider doctors that required 3 month stays without exception but below are items that show no one has a perfect record. 

State Complaint against Paley
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-doctor-dror-paley-20160318-story.html

State finds Paley supervised surgery but didn't perform it so it is dismissed against him and launched against dr he supervised.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-doctor-paley-wrong-limb-complaint-dismissed-20170227-story.html

Malpractice Suit against Paley
https://center.mdmalpracticeattorney.com/files/2013/12/SOC2010-398R.pdf

Recent infringement lawsuit against Paley
https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2020/10/06/2104528/0/en/IMED-Surgical-Files-Federal-Lawsuit-Against-Orthex-Dror-Paley-OrthoPediatrics-and-Squadron-Capital.html

Reviews in America of Dr. Paley

https://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/30268/Dr-Dror-Paley-West+Palm+Beach-FL.html/

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 12:39 am
#33

Answering it he previous messages ,as I said...This doctor is not one to be considered as well with others. Period.

About the last Message ,Paley has a fraudulent story also at Sinai for some devices and that is why I would not go with him (also his age and so on) .
I am in Europe and it says the other links you shared can't be seen in my country so if you can summarize what they talk about would help me , so that I can at least answear properly

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 12:40 am
#34

Quote from: Humanoid on November 16, 2021, 11:47:00 PMI think it isn't wise to conclude the patien already had a rare underlying condition after s*** happened. A good surgeron with a good protocol should had performed comprehensive pre op tests so that the patient wouldn't qualify for the surgery.

THANK YOU !
Can we keep this thread alive forever ?
People need to know about those things/surgeons.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 6:12 am
#35

Quote from: Humanoid on November 16, 2021, 11:47:00 PMI think it isn't wise to conclude the patien already had a rare underlying condition after s*** happened. A good surgeron with a good protocol should had performed comprehensive pre op tests so that the patient wouldn't qualify for the surgery.

He didn't have an underlying condition, he started an extreme diet and fasting method in the last days without notifying his doctor.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 6:26 am
#36

Quote from: Arcon on November 17, 2021, 06:12:41 AMHe didn't have an underlying condition, he started an extreme diet and fasting method in the last days without notifying his doctor.
Do you know what diet it was by any chance?

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 6:31 am
#37

Quote from: thankscience on November 17, 2021, 06:26:36 AMDo you know what diet it was by any chance?
Some kind of long fasting diet, I don't know more.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 6:34 am
#38

Quote from: LU213 on November 17, 2021, 12:14:41 AMAnyone can have complaints and deaths in a very long career.  The surgery didn't originate in America and no one should presume Americans are the best at it or have the most experience.  I don't know much about Dr. Paley. I have no doubt he is excellent. I didn't consider doctors that required 3 month stays without exception but below are items that show no one has a perfect record. 

State Complaint against Paley
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-doctor-dror-paley-20160318-story.html

State finds Paley supervised surgery but didn't perform it so it is dismissed against him and launched against dr he supervised.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-doctor-paley-wrong-limb-complaint-dismissed-20170227-story.html

Malpractice Suit against Paley
https://center.mdmalpracticeattorney.com/files/2013/12/SOC2010-398R.pdf

Recent infringement lawsuit against Paley
https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2020/10/06/2104528/0/en/IMED-Surgical-Files-Federal-Lawsuit-Against-Orthex-Dror-Paley-OrthoPediatrics-and-Squadron-Capital.html

Reviews in America of Dr. Paley

https://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/30268/Dr-Dror-Paley-West+Palm+Beach-FL.html/

Thank you @LU213.  Those reviews are quite concerning as they question his professional integrity. I am starting to believe that if it wasn't for the increased sensitivity that most CLL patients have about keeping their privacy, there would have been more complaints or lawsuits against Paley and CLL. He is not trustowrthy imo.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 7:55 am
#39

Quote from: Arcon on November 17, 2021, 06:31:24 AMSome kind of long fasting diet, I don't know more.

The patient died. So we cannot crosscheck whether he trully did long fasting diet or not. Also we cannot conclude that fasting leads to embolism or not. I want to believe, but...

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Posted on Nov 17, 2021, 8:25 am
#40

Quote from: thankscience on November 16, 2021, 11:03:49 PMBased on another post it seems the patient already had a rare underlying condition. I think there was already high risk, irrespective of the doctor.
That's not true, he did not have rare underlying conditions.

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