Okay let me break this down for you. I'll make it as simple as I can so you can get it through your thick skull.
Quote"You compared short men in general with short men that date (super)models (!) and said there are outliers. So what? It's meanigless."
The point of this comparison is to show that while there are short men that date supermodels that doesn't change the fact that being short will affect an average short man's ability to date supermodels or their dating in a general sense. I don't think anybody would disagree that being short affects your dating opportunities IN GENERAL.
This was in reply to the original person who asked why would anyone want to do LL for their career because they don't see being short affecting their career. Just because you personally aren't affected by being short in your career doesn't mean that someone else might not and I even went on to further explain that statistically speaking, it does, although your height could totally not be a hindrance to YOU in your career.
Quote"Do you think 169cm Lionel Messi would have the same struggles or any struggles dating super(models) as the normal short guy?
Or 170cm Vladimir Putin? Or billionaire Mark Zuckerberg? Rich short oil Arabs? Hell, even short rich lawers date gorgeous models where I live. There's a point where height doesn't mean sh*t anymore.
The problem with the majority of/average short guys (rest of us) which you compared with a 'just like', is that we'll never pass or even come close to that point.
That was a silly comparison."
Look at the first paragraph.
Quote"You didn't refute anything, you didn't even understood what I said for the most part. You created arguments yourself, wrote that 'dating is meaningless to me', couldn't distinguish assumptions ('IF I don't care') with statements ('I don't care about the oppsoite/same sxx') that didn't exist in the first place."
I didn't create arguments myself. You created a hypothetical saying "If dating is meaningless to me and I don't care about sex at all" and I replied to your hypothetical saying that if you aren't dating in the first place then how can you know that dating doesn't affect you because of your short height. It's like saying "Hey I don't have a job and I don't care about having one " then going on to say that your height doesn't affect your career. Do you see how absurd this is.
Quote"Self-love can be a good thing."
Yes it can be a good thing but not when you're an idiot. Then please self reflect and change.
Back when The National Organization of Short Statured Adults (NOSSA) was real
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 01:10:22 PMDo you think 169cm Lionel Messi would have the same struggles or any struggles dating super(models) as the normal short guy?
Or 170cm Vladimir Putin? Or billionaire Mark Zuckerberg? Rich short oil Arabs? Hell, even short rich lawers date gorgeous models where I live. There's a point where height doesn't mean sh*t anymore.
No, it will still and always matter. First of all, not every girl is a gold digger and can be bought. Secondly, even if they date supermodels, it won't be because the supermodels find them hot. You see Mark Zuckerberg's wife is not even attractive. Lionel Messi's wife is an average Latina, not a model or anything. I don't even remember any other woman he dated except for the one he's currently married to. He was never seen as a sxx symbol like Christiano CRonnie7 who dated so many attractive women.
Some things will always matter regardless of how rich, famous and talented you become and height is one of them.
Here is an easy proof on how height will always matter.
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 14, 2020, 01:57:55 PMNo, it will still and always matter. First of all, not every girl is a gold digger and can be bought. Secondly, even if they date supermodels, it won't be because the supermodels find them hot. You see Mark Zuckerberg's wife is not even attractive. Lionel Messi's wife is an average Latina, not a model or anything. I don't even remember any other woman he dated except for the one he's currently married to. He was never seen as a sxx symbol like Christiano CRonnie7 who dated so many attractive women.
Some things will always matter regardless of how rich, famous and talented you become and height is one of them.
Here is an easy proof on how height will always matter.
I don’t think you can say that it ALWAYS matters by showing one example of a random girl saying Taylor Lautner is too short for her. I could just as easily show you a picture of a couple where the woman is taller than the man, would that prove that height doesn’t matter? If I was Taylor Lautner I wouldn’t care about the opinion of a random nobody because I would my pick of options.
If you’re using being a sxx symbol as a metric for why height always matters then I can show you Bob Dylan who was 5’7, Prince who was 5’2 or Tom Cruise who is 5’7. This is a bit too black and white. I would say that majority of women care about height but that’s not to say that everyone of them strongly cares about height and the only reason they’re with you is because of your wealth or fame.
Quote from: carpetendro on September 14, 2020, 02:23:10 PMI don’t think you can say that it ALWAYS matters by showing one example of a random girl saying Taylor Lautner is too short for her. I could just as easily show you a picture of a couple where the woman is taller than the man, would that prove that height doesn’t matter? If I was Taylor Lautner I wouldn’t care about the opinion of a random nobody because I would my pick of options.
If you’re using being a sxx symbol as a metric for why height always matters then I can show you Bob Dylan who was 5’7, Prince who was 5’2 or Tom Cruise who is 5’7. This is a bit too black and white. I would say that majority of women care about height but that’s not to say that everyone of them strongly cares about height and the only reason they’re with you is because of your wealth or fame.
What do you mean? Your personal needs don't reflect the reality of what matters and what doesn't. Here I show you a pic of Taylor Lautner getting mocked by 3-4 girls for the fact that he looks short in that picture (I said it like this because he's not actually short at 174cm) in spite of him being handsome, incredibly fit, rich and famous. If you don't care about getting ridiculed by other people, then that's your problem, but that's not to say that other people will have the same attitude. This is just one example, there are many more.
Tom Cruise is closer to 5'8". Not that short. Even then a lot of women don't find him that attractive apparently.
Prince is an interesting case. To be honest, the only reason I found out the existence of this guy was because I was reading too much about height. I never met someone in real life who talked about him.
Point is I honestly don't understand how some people considered him a sxx symbol and I don't exactly know the situation back then. But obviously no woman that's not a fan him would find him attractive in the slightest.
Quote from: carpetendro on September 14, 2020, 01:34:53 PMOkay let me break this down for you. I'll make it as simple as I can so you can get it through your thick skull.
The point of this comparison is to show that while there are short men that date supermodels that doesn't change the fact that being short will affect an average short man's ability to date supermodels or their dating in a general sense. I don't think anybody would disagree that being short affects your dating opportunities IN GENERAL.
This was in reply to the original person who asked why would anyone want to do LL for their career because they don't see being short affecting their career. Just because you personally aren't affected by being short in your career doesn't mean that someone else might not and I even went on to further explain that statistically speaking, it does, although your height could totally not be a hindrance to YOU in your career.
Look at the first paragraph.
I didn't create arguments myself. You created a hypothetical saying "If dating is meaningless to me and I don't care about sxx at all" and I replied to your hypothetical saying that if you aren't dating in the first place then how can you know that dating doesn't affect you because of your short height. It's like saying "Hey I don't have a job and I don't care about having one " then going on to say that your height doesn't affect your career. Do you see how absurd this is.
Yes it can be a good thing but not when you're an idiot. Then please self reflect and change.
Here's why you won't be getting actual replies to your garbage 'gem' posts from me, (I'm here because of Bruce Wayne's reply)
https://imgur.com/gallery/Qfc9Lf9?nc=1
The 'Crocodile' in this case equals 'Wasting my time'.
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 14, 2020, 01:57:55 PMNo, it will still and always matter. First of all, not every girl is a gold digger and can be bought.
What I meant is they're will be able to date supermodels kinda like normal men can date normal women. Not every woman will want to f* with you (as a normal guy) and that's the case with Messi. If he was interested in supermodels, some of them wouldn't want a relationship with him, some might would want(?) but 'shalloow gold diggers' would be there anyway.
QuoteSecondly, even if they date supermodels, it won't be because the supermodels find them hot.
It doesn't matter. They will date supermodels nonetheless.
QuoteYou see Mark Zuckerberg's wife is not even attractive. Lionel Messi's wife is an average Latina, not a model or anything.
Yeah, because those guys aren't interested in dating supermodels, exactly because of what you said, they know they won't find them hot, but their fame, power, money, etc
There are others that simply don't care and would still date supermodels.
QuoteHere is an easy proof on how height will always matter.
That's one specific example and doesn't really mean much.
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 03:11:09 PMIt doesn't matter. They will date supermodels nonetheless.
So maybe it doesn't matter to you. To me, it makes a WORLD difference whether a woman likes me because of ME or my money or just want to take advantage of me in some way. And I'm sure it matters to a lot of other guys too.
If a woman likes you because of your money or anything other than yourself, what would be the difference between her and a prostitute? I might as well just spend a couple hundred bucks on one and call it a day instead of waiting to be rich and famous so that I can finally attract women who'll like me for my money.
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 03:11:09 PMThat's one specific example and doesn't really mean much.
There will be many examples like that, another one has been posted above.
But we don't need all of them to prove this point.
Height will not cease to matter once you become rich and famous.
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 14, 2020, 03:36:40 PMSo maybe it doesn't matter to you. To me, it makes a WORLD difference whether a woman likes me because of ME or my money or just want to take advantage of me in some way. And I'm sure it matters to a lot of other guys too.
That's a little different. We are talking about supermodels here, and I don't know about you, but an average 172/3cm guy's (mine) opinion here means what?
You expect to become +10cm taller, and as a 178cm guy super models will imediately wanna date you? Haven't CR7 divorced like 3 times? How many of these models truly 'loved' him anyway?
Yes, I wouldn't like to date a woman for my money too, but there are guys who don't give a sh*t.
QuoteIf a woman likes you because of your money or anything other than yourself, what would be the difference between her and a working girl? I might as well just spend a couple hundred bucks on one and call it a day instead of waiting to be rich and famous so that I can finally attract women who'll like me for my money.
I don't understand what you mean here. The bolded part is very unlikely to happen based on probabilities anyway.
QuoteHeight will not cease to matter once you become rich and famous.
This was about dating supermodels.
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 03:53:53 PMThat's a little different. We are talking about supermodels here
Actually I was talking about attracting women and how height will matter in general. But the point stays the same.
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 03:53:53 PMYou expect to become +10cm taller, and as a 178cm guy super models will imediately wanna date you?
I don't know about supermodels. But that would significantly increase my sxx appeal, thus more women will be more attracted to me, supermodel or not.
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 03:53:53 PMHaven't CR7 divorced like 3 times? How many of these models truly 'loved' him anyway?
Now, here's the thing. There is a difference between love and pure sxxual attraction. The fact that he has divorced 3 times only shows that he's been with a lot of women.
Quote from: O_99 on September 14, 2020, 03:53:53 PMbut there are guys who don't give a sh*t.
There are guys who don't give a about girls or money or their whole life. Doesn't mean anything.
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 14, 2020, 04:30:36 PMActually I was talking about attracting women and how height will matter in general. But the point stays the same.
Yeah but you replied to this first.
QuoteIt doesn't matter. They will date supermodels nonetheless.
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QuoteSo maybe it doesn't matter to you. To me, it makes a WORLD difference whether a woman likes me because of ME or my money or just want to take advantage of me in some way. And I'm sure it matters to a lot of other guys too.
QuoteI don't know about supermodels. But that would significantly increase my sxx appeal, thus more women will be more attracted to me
It will. Especially if you have a handsome face, or fix/enhance it 'easier' (compared to LL), jawline implants, f.e.
QuoteNow, here's the thing. There is a difference between love and pure sxxual attraction. The fact that he has divorced 3 times only shows that he's been with a lot of women.
It shows that they don't really care about him. And they're 'supermodels'.
The guys who don't give a sh*t and will still date supermodels, exist. And some short guys can date them too with this mindset.
QuoteThere are guys who don't give a about girls or money or their whole life. Doesn't mean anything.
How is this related?
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Honestly,
Not going to argue with you now about supermodels and CR7.
There are more intersting stuff in this forum http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65471.93 to look for.
Out.
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 14, 2020, 01:57:55 PMNo, it will still and always matter. First of all, not every girl is a gold digger and can be bought. Secondly, even if they date supermodels, it won't be because the supermodels find them hot. You see Mark Zuckerberg's wife is not even attractive. Lionel Messi's wife is an average Latina, not a model or anything. I don't even remember any other woman he dated except for the one he's currently married to. He was never seen as a sxx symbol like Christiano CRonnie7 who dated so many attractive women.
Some things will always matter regardless of how rich, famous and talented you become and height is one of them.
Here is an easy proof on how height will always matter.
A (female) friend of mine recently said that she’d never date Dwayne Johnson because she thinks bald guys are unattractive. Does this prove that women, in general, cannot be attracted to bald guys? Nope.
Like baldness, short stature is certainly a disadvantage, but you can make up for it with a handsome face, great hair, etc. (the shorter you are, the more difficult it is, of course).
Do you know Zayn? He’s 5’7-8” and is dating Gigi Hadid. And I’m pretty sure she’s attracted to him.
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