BodyBuilder. Reality vs. Expectation

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 22, 2017, 03:44:17 AM5.65 -> 5.85 isn't that big of a change honestly. I mean yes now he's dating a 5'5 girl which probably would've had 0 chance of happening before.

The ideal, very best, and I think most life changing procedure overall would be 5'5 -> 5'10. Just two completely different leagues.

But I think this is all very relative and anecdotal lol. Imagine you get LL and then fall into depression afterwards for unrelated reasons like family death. Or imagine you get LL and then meet a girl who was taller than your starting height. Some people will say this surgery changed their lives, others will say it barely had any effect.

Tibike, it's not a sad update. Is the reality vs expectations for a man who from 1.68 became 1.75 and still have problems with height on dating.
And trust me, if I have these problems then the majority of men at these heights have also becauso, without been egocentrical or superficial, I don"t have any other physical drawback compared to the great majority of men.
So, if I face trouble on dating due to height, them the vast majority of men at these heights does also. And shorter than 5.8-5.7 men are, sorry about that but it is the harsh truth, almost doomed on dating.

Captain america, I gained about 7.5cm which is a good gain especially for tibia LL.
Being 1.75 from 1.68 IS a major difference but my point is that still my height is an issue on dating, something I never thought before LL when I truly believed that this difference is more than enough to never have any problems on dating due to height.
But it isn't.

Also, the 5.5 very sxxy girl was my ex.
My now gf is more average looking and a little less than 5.7.
And before LL I have a 4 year relationship with a 5.7 very sxxy and nice girl and 2 years with a very beautiful 5.6 girl too, but I was just lucky because they didn't care about height.
But the thing is that more than 80% of girls care about height a lot and most of the time, 5.9-5.8 is just not tall enough to be considered an ideal man.
That is something that I have seen again and again and can't be ignored so the only way to play with our rules is to get close to 5.11 as much as our initial height let us, even with doing two LLs.
And thats what I'm planning to do.

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 22, 2017, 07:28:52 AMTibike, it's not a sad update. Is the reality vs expectations for a man who from 1.68 became 1.75 and still have problems with height on dating.
And trust me, if I have these problems then the majority of men at these heights have also becauso, without been egocentrical or superficial, I don"t have any other physical drawback compared to the great majority of men.
So, if I face trouble on dating due to height, them the vast majority of men at these heights does also. And shorter than 5.8-5.7 men are, sorry about that but it is the harsh truth, almost doomed on dating.

Captain america, I gained about 7.5cm which is a good gain especially for tibia LL.
Being 1.75 from 1.68 IS a major difference but my point is that still my height is an issue on dating, something I never thought before LL when I truly believed that this difference is more than enough to never have any problems on dating due to height.
But it isn't.

Also, the 5.5 very sxxy girl was my ex.
My now gf is more average looking and a little less than 5.7.
And before LL I have a 4 year relationship with a 5.7 very sxxy and nice girl and 2 years with a very beautiful 5.6 girl too, but I was just lucky because they didn't care about height.
But the thing is that more than 80% of girls care about height a lot and most of the time, 5.9-5.8 is just not tall enough to be considered an ideal man.
That is something that I have seen again and again and can't be ignored so the only way to play with our rules is to get close to 5.11 as much as our initial height let us, even with doing two LLs.
And thats what I'm planning to do.

Naaah, Girls don't give a fk about height. Its funny how you want to do this risky surgery because of that. Personality and your budget will bring you anyone.

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Quote from: The Kaiser on February 22, 2017, 10:34:28 AMNaaah, Girls don't give a fk about height. Its funny how you want to do this risky surgery because of that. Personality and your budget will bring you anyone.

https://youtu.be/HCJ_6tuY-Pg

Girls care. They are pretty shallow. It sucks but it's reality

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Consolidating here, so can't answer most of your questions about post-LL athleticism.

Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 17, 2017, 10:52:26 PM- Do you avoid looking in mirrors while nked (or clothed) because you're unhappy with your proportions?

Not at all. I have long femurs now, but it's nothing more than mildly amusing to me. When clothed and looking at a full length mirror, I can only notice that my knee is a little below its ideal place. The good thing about doing femurs is wearing shoes helps your leg's proportions too.

Quote- How long did you lengthen, and in which segment?

3", femurs.

Quote- If you do feel pain, how much, and would you say that it has even slightly reduced your quality of life & "outgoing'ness" ?

Didn't have much pain during lengthening, no pain right now as I consolidate so I assume I won't have pain after.

Quote- Has anyone commented on your proportions? Sitting height? Anything? Did it bother you at all? Or do you just brush off matters like this because overall, as a net, being taller is worth the trade off?

No. I've met someone who saw me before surgery and then right after. All they noticed was the entire legs were longer- that too because they knew what they were looking for. I even waved my leg in the air while bending the knee to show them I was doing ok. Secretly, I was testing to see if they noticed my femur:tibia proportions and they didn't. I was wearing shorts at the time. I don't think anyone will notice my sitting height is a little off. If someone commented on my proportions, I'd brush it off. I wouldn't do any more LL though, even if I could magically add some inches to my tibias because staying in the realm of normalcy takes priority over height at some point.

Quote- Did LL change the way people treat you? Family, friends?

No. Family & close friends agree that I look much better now, but that's all.
EDIT: I should expand on this. Well with girls, it definitely will. I went from the shortest guy you'd see to a normal height range for where I live and there's no doubt it'll help, since I have other qualities girls like. I don't know how strangers will feel or whether they'll care, but I'll sure as hell feel great not looking up at everyone I talk to. It's not that they will notice anything, it's that they won't notice and I won't stand out in a way I don't fancy. Lifetime investment.

Quote- How do you feel when you wake up in the morning (emotionally and physically)?

Normal! Worth it.
..expanding on this too; I always felt normal by myself, shortness is only defined by comparison so when outside, I'll feel normal.

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Don't worry. There is some justice in nature. Women when they hit 30 are becoming drastically uglier with every year due to aging and they dating pool drops to close to zero. Men their age are still chasing young girls and they will get interested in them only as a very last resort. They know it and they get a taste of their own medicine then when they hear from most men that they are too old for them.

But seriously, when you get done with LL, I guarantee you that you will pumped with hatred towards girls who care about height knowing what you went through. Your thinking will change from "am tall enough for you" to "f*** you c**t" and you'll move on to the next one.

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"omg I'm 5'9, have a pretty face, good muscles, charming personality and a good job but I have problems getting girls"

Yeah, sure.
truestory.jgp

This forum is becoming more stupid than /r/short.

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Quote from: yyes on February 22, 2017, 10:39:23 AMGirls care. They are pretty shallow. It sucks but it's reality

So true!
I'm very short and open about doing LL.
Every girl who is taller than me said that they could understand my wish to be taller (I never mentioned dating as one of the reasons).
The ones who "like" me expressed their support and the ones I'm sure that they "really like" me even told me how brave I am for doing this.
I think they projected their own thoughts onto me: "I like him, but I wish he was taller".

When I was on campus last week, one of the girls came to me asking how I'm doing.
She's one of those who "really like" me. She knew I was doing LL and she is about 4-5cm taller than my original height.
I slowly stood up from my wheelchair so I could greet her appropriately.
She was flattered because I stood up for her and for the first time she told me how good I look.
But I had only gained 8mm by then.
She clearly projected her own expectations onto me.
 
Girls care about height. Some more, some less. But they are also very emotional and this can deceive their perception of men. If you push the right buttons, you can make them think you are taller/more handsome to a certain degree. That's also why some ladies start making comments or jokes about their boyfriend's height or looks after some time, when the love and emotions fade.

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Quote from: yyes on February 22, 2017, 10:39:23 AMhttps://youtu.be/HCJ_6tuY-Pg

Girls care. They are pretty shallow. It sucks but it's reality

No girls will rejects you if you are 5'9 5'10

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Quote from: theophilo on February 22, 2017, 12:07:02 PMNo girls will rejects you if you are 5'9 5'10

This isn't quite true... as shallow as it sounds, there are some girls who wont date a guy under 6 feet. It's the reason memes like this are a thing
http://i.imgur.com/oydlQ2k.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pUhD4eR.jpg

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 22, 2017, 07:28:52 AMAnd trust me, if I have these problems then the majority of men at these heights have also becauso,

Disagree there, all men are not you and your experiences can be different from that of other men. If you say you have experienced a barrier because of your height, that experience is valid, but the experiences of other men who say that height is not that big of an issue are also valid.