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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 12:25 pm
#91

Quote from: Calic on January 07, 2014, 06:12:43 AMTrue, I have peace of mind knowing my height will never negatively effect anything in my life.

How are things at the guest house?


Cool here dude, thanks! Since you left I think we had 5 more patients.

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 12:35 pm
#92

Quote from: olivetree on January 07, 2014, 12:07:43 PMI have another inquiry though. While at the guesthouse how do you go about taking a shower? Especially right after surgery with all the restricted mobility and weight bearing? Do you have to sit down? Can the frames get wet? My bad if this is a stupid or obvious question. I've just never seen anything in the diaries about the adventures of showering while leg lengthening. lol

Bring a chair into the shower area and sit on it with your legs on another chair going out of the shower and cover your legs with a towel. Then just wash your upper body and then request the caretakers later to wash your legs, feet, or hair.

Right after surgery it hurts quite a bit to move so you probably won't be motivated to take a shower for a week or two.

Not sure if it is good or bad to have the frames get wet. Everything that I read on old forum  said not to as it can increase the risk of infection. I don't think anybody who showered at the guest house let their frames get wet.

One thing I wish I had were no rinse bath wipes to use instead of taking showers.

A diary would be cool since I do not think there is any diary about leg shortening. I am interested in the process of it.

How much have you decided to shorten by? I assume the desired length of bone is removed all at once and then you bring all the bones together again? How does the soft tissue handle being compacted together, are there any potential issues with that? What is the rate of compression?

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 12:35 pm
#93

Quote from: olivetree on January 07, 2014, 12:07:43 PMI have another inquiry though. While at the guesthouse how do you go about taking a shower? Especially right after surgery with all the restricted mobility and weight bearing? Do you have to sit down? Can the frames get wet? My bad if this is a stupid or obvious question. I've just never seen anything in the diaries about the adventures of showering while leg lengthening. lol

Bring a chair into the shower area and sit on it with your legs on another chair going out of the shower and cover your legs with a towel. Then just wash your upper body and then request the caretakers later to wash your legs, feet, or hair.

Right after surgery it hurts quite a bit to move so you probably won't be motivated to take a shower for a week or two.

Not sure if it is good or bad to have the frames get wet. Everything that I read on old forum  said not to as it can increase the risk of infection. I don't think anybody who showered at the guest house let their frames get wet.

One thing I wish I had were no rinse bath wipes to use instead of taking showers.

A diary would be cool since I do not think there is any diary about leg shortening. I am interested in the process of it.

How much have you decided to shorten by? I assume the desired length of bone is removed all at once and then you bring all the bones together again? How does the soft tissue handle being compacted together, are there any potential issues with that? What is the rate of compression?

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 1:37 pm
#94

Quote from: Smallguy on January 07, 2014, 07:11:08 AMI'm glad that you are overcoming the superficial stigma that got us all obsess over this LL in the first place. Beside attracting girls, I don't see much advantage to being physically tall in this day and age. I think it's all about confident. I think being short really affects your psycho and that's it. And it's this psychology that cost us 4-6 months of our lives, lots of pain and suffering, 23k (including air ticket and other travel expense) and our health to go all the way to India for LL.

Having said all this, I'm going through with my femur LL plan within 10 months. I'm happy to hear that you are recovering well and don't think about your height anymore... this is especially important since your legs are already really long. Keep us posted on your recovery!!

I agree that attractiveness towards girls is probably the area in life where height is most important and below a certain height you will face significant problems. Beyond that I think it is hard to judge how much our height actually effects our lives. It is only one piece of the puzzle and by itself it does not really do much for you.

On paper LL looked like a good decision for me after reading through all of the diaries and looking at all the studies that show below average height people being at a disadvantage but now that I am back home I am thinking to myself, okay what now? I feel like I just took a 6 month vacation and came home exactly how I left.

I think the main thing that bothered me was the idea that something out of my direct control could have a negative impact on my life and there was nothing besides LL that could change that. I am glad that I had LL done and when I am older I can look back on my life and be rest assured my height has not hindered me in any negative way.

Another minor reason I wanted LL was that a part of me wanted to endure the experience and challenge of it. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of my time in India having my LL and would do it all over again if I had the chance.

Quote from: Smallguy on January 07, 2014, 07:11:08 AMHaving said all this, I'm going through with my femur LL plan within 10 months. I'm happy to hear that you are recovering well and don't think about your height anymore... this is especially important since your legs are already really long. Keep us posted on your recovery!!

A part of me is still thinking of doing a second LL but I am thinking less and less about it since I know my proportions probably cannot handle it. Once I am fully recovered I will do another set of mockups and try walking around in some elevator shoes to simulate a 4 cm gain and then put closure to the idea.

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 1:37 pm
#95

Quote from: Smallguy on January 07, 2014, 07:11:08 AMI'm glad that you are overcoming the superficial stigma that got us all obsess over this LL in the first place. Beside attracting girls, I don't see much advantage to being physically tall in this day and age. I think it's all about confident. I think being short really affects your psycho and that's it. And it's this psychology that cost us 4-6 months of our lives, lots of pain and suffering, 23k (including air ticket and other travel expense) and our health to go all the way to India for LL.

Having said all this, I'm going through with my femur LL plan within 10 months. I'm happy to hear that you are recovering well and don't think about your height anymore... this is especially important since your legs are already really long. Keep us posted on your recovery!!

I agree that attractiveness towards girls is probably the area in life where height is most important and below a certain height you will face significant problems. Beyond that I think it is hard to judge how much our height actually effects our lives. It is only one piece of the puzzle and by itself it does not really do much for you.

On paper LL looked like a good decision for me after reading through all of the diaries and looking at all the studies that show below average height people being at a disadvantage but now that I am back home I am thinking to myself, okay what now? I feel like I just took a 6 month vacation and came home exactly how I left.

I think the main thing that bothered me was the idea that something out of my direct control could have a negative impact on my life and there was nothing besides LL that could change that. I am glad that I had LL done and when I am older I can look back on my life and be rest assured my height has not hindered me in any negative way.

Another minor reason I wanted LL was that a part of me wanted to endure the experience and challenge of it. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of my time in India having my LL and would do it all over again if I had the chance.

Quote from: Smallguy on January 07, 2014, 07:11:08 AMHaving said all this, I'm going through with my femur LL plan within 10 months. I'm happy to hear that you are recovering well and don't think about your height anymore... this is especially important since your legs are already really long. Keep us posted on your recovery!!

A part of me is still thinking of doing a second LL but I am thinking less and less about it since I know my proportions probably cannot handle it. Once I am fully recovered I will do another set of mockups and try walking around in some elevator shoes to simulate a 4 cm gain and then put closure to the idea.

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 1:48 pm
#96

Quote from: Calic on January 07, 2014, 12:35:10 PMBring a chair into the shower area and sit on it with your legs on another chair going out of the shower and cover your legs with a towel. Then just wash your upper body and then request the caretakers later to wash your legs, feet, or hair.

Right after surgery it hurts quite a bit to move so you probably won't be motivated to take a shower for a week or two.

Not sure if it is good or bad to have the frames get wet. Everything that I read on old forum  said not to as it can increase the risk of infection. I don't think anybody who showered at the guest house let their frames get wet.

One thing I wish I had were no rinse bath wipes to use instead of taking showers.

A diary would be cool since I do not think there is any diary about leg shortening. I am interested in the process of it.

How much have you decided to shorten by? I assume the desired length of bone is removed all at once and then you bring all the bones together again? How does the soft tissue handle being compacted together, are there any potential issues with that? What is the rate of compression?

I'm a very clean person so idk if pain would get in my way of showering haha. I actually don't even think I will have frames. What would be the point? Yes the bone is cut and then joined, either by a metal plate and screws to hold it in place or a nail inside the bone, which would be removed after a year or so. I'm not sure what technique Sarin uses(I assume rod). I didn't ask because I would prefer to discuss everything in detail with him at the consultation rather than email. I am thinking if it sounds too scary I make a final decision in India whether or not to proceed. (Fat chance I won't though  Calic - External Tibias - Dr. Sarin - 2013 - My LL Experience) Physio of course is required after wards, knee bending issues could also occur.
As with your question about the soft tissue compacting, I read there is a risk of something called compartment syndrome, where the muscles in your legs develop too much pressure from a lack of blood supply and can damage the nerves and muscles. Apparently this is extremely painful and can be super serious if not treated. So there's something to think about. However my target is pretty slight (3, maybe 3.5 cm decrease) so I assume my leggys won't freak out on me too much. Sarin told me he decreased a guy -yes, a guyyy- by 7.5cm last August. Wonder how that dudes doing now…I've tried emailing but nada.

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 2:11 pm
#97

Quote from: olivetree on January 07, 2014, 01:48:55 PMI actually don't even think I will have frames. What would be the point? Yes the bone is cut and then joined, either by a metal plate and screws to hold it in place or a nail inside the bone, which would be removed after a year or so. I'm not sure what technique Sarin uses(I assume rod).

Sarin told me he decreased a guy -yes, a guyyy- by 7.5cm last August. Wonder how that dudes doing now…I've tried emailing but nada.

So once the bone is cut out and removed you can bring the leg together all at once and then lock it in place with a nail?

Cool, so it is true that that guy went through with it. I believe he was the brother of the other girl on old forum  that was 6'3" and wanted shortening. It sucks he did not stay at the guest house, I would have liked to see and talk to him.

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Posted on Jan 7, 2014, 6:34 pm
#98

Quote from: Smallguy on January 07, 2014, 07:11:08 AMActually, most short guys I know don't really care about their height. If you don't care about attracting girls, being short has its own advantage. When I watch a fight, I always root for the smaller guy. Being short is powerful in its own way because you are being seen as as underdog. And people always root for the underdog.

You nailed it on the head for me.  One of the weights pulling me down from getting LL is the idea that I won't be short anymore.  Instead I'll be average.  I've gone through my whole life as a short male in every age group, and for the most part, I've owned it as a part of me.  People underestimate me and I love that feeling.  I never want to be viewed as every other average male in my country.

Don't get me wrong, being average is a million times better in other aspects, but I'll miss the uniqueness I'm going to be losing with this surgery.

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Posted on Jan 8, 2014, 7:08 am
#99

Quote from: BilateralDamage on January 07, 2014, 06:34:09 PMYou nailed it on the head for me.  One of the weights pulling me down from getting LL is the idea that I won't be short anymore.  Instead I'll be average.  I've gone through my whole life as a short male in every age group, and for the most part, I've owned it as a part of me.  People underestimate me and I love that feeling.  I never want to be viewed as every other average male in my country.

Don't get me wrong, being average is a million times better in other aspects, but I'll miss the uniqueness I'm going to be losing with this surgery.

Yeah, you will lose this uniqueness. Don't forget to take lots of photo now. Then you can compare them with yourself after LL. It will be a priceless memory.

It's human nature. People normally want what they can't have. We go through our lives being short, face discrimination and pain that a short man faces. That's why we want to be tall for once. But tall people also have their own qualm. That's why it's not unusual to see people at the guesthouse who wants to becomes short... lol

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Posted on Jan 8, 2014, 1:54 pm
#100

Quote from: Calic on January 07, 2014, 02:11:25 PMSo once the bone is cut out and removed you can bring the leg together all at once and then lock it in place with a nail?

Cool, so it is true that that guy went through with it. I believe he was the brother of the other girl on old forum  that was 6'3" and wanted shortening. It sucks he did not stay at the guest house, I would have liked to see and talk to him.

Yes, like any other discrepancy or severely broken bone.

Oh yeah that would make sense. Gosh that's tall.. I wish I was around when they were active on old forum . It'd be nice to talk with someone feeling the same way I do.

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