Quote from: Smallguy on January 27, 2014, 01:52:16 AMHey Calic,
Sorry I spammed your diary with a bunch of irrelevant posts. How is your recovery coming along?
All good.
I told my best friend about my LL and he said he noticed the height but didn't say anything about it and just assumed I had a growth spurt. He had no idea LL was possible. His height is exactly 5'10" so I am now just slightly taller than him now. I compared my proportions to him - his sitting height appeared to be about 1.5 inches more than me and my tibias were obviously way longer than his. Surprisingly my arms and hands were the exact same length and width as his. He has commented in the past that he has short arms but it was still cool to know my arms are still within the normal range of proportion. It sucks I have the arm length but not the torso length to do a 2nd LL 
I also told his parents and 2 sisters about my LL. One sister just commented she thought the LL scene in Gattaca was science fiction. The other one who is in a medically related field found it more interesting. The parents were just confounded and didn't seem to understand why I would want to do something like LL.
Knee pain and other pain
I can walk or stand on my knees with no pain. I have slight pain when jogging. Sitting on my knees is painful enough to be uncomfortable. When trying to run or when walking downstairs quickly I feel a good amount of pain around the locking screws. This worries me a bit since I am not sure it will get any better since my bone should be fully healed and be taking the force of impact now. Everything else feels solid. I sometimes have some random pain in the foot or ankle but it goes away quickly.
I was thinking of just leaving the rods in for life but if I cannot run without pain in the locking screws I might have them removed.
Cold weather
I've walked outside in gym shorts at close to 0° F temperatures for 5 to 10 minutes and I feel no difference in my legs despite the rods being inside. I have been outside for longer periods of time with jeans on and never felt any difference.
Height decrease
I have seen a lot of talk about people losing height from LL and Sweden's situation seems quite bizarre - not sure what to think of this. My height has stayed at 5'10"+ for most of the day. This has me a little bit worried since my final height was higher than expected but I will measure it several months from now and see if there is any difference.
Calic - External Tibias - Dr. Sarin - 2013 - My LL Experience
Hey Calic,
It must be quite a great feeling when you finally stand taller than your friend after all the difficulties you have been through. Your LL journey was perfect and you have achieved what others would have paid $100k for (plus wailing). You should be proud of yourself. I met you in person and thought you were a great guy... and a true warrior. You truly deserve this achievement.
Height decrease - don't worry about this. Couldn't happen.
Slight pain - have you tried taking inflammatory supplements like omega 3 or curcumin? I heard they help with arthritis. I eat a lot of sushi here for lunch. Maybe that seems to help me with feeling no pain. However, I do feel slight discomfort sometime like waking up in the morning with a stiff calf muscle. However I can quickly walk into the bathtub and take a shower. And sitting on my knee makes me feel pain... but how often do we require to sit on our knees? So I wouldn't consider these as pain.
How is your dating life? Have girls now find you more attractive?
PS. I will be making a video tomorrow... maybe just to demonstrate how my own recovery has been thus far after 6 months of going to the gym. It was meant to be created for a few ppl who I met in India like yourself and a 1-2 other ppl on this forum. Be sure to watch it 
It is an interesting change of perspective. In a way I kind of feel superior to others who are shorter than me now. Unfortunately, a part of me still wants more height but I am thinking less and less of the idea now.
I haven't taken anything for the pain yet as it doesn't bother me enough.
I haven't done any dating since I got back and I am still trying to find a job. I haven't been out much either. I know the added height will help though 
I liked the video. It looks like you will be able to make a full recovery. How is the pain when jogging or trying to run?
Great to hear from you Mr "Perfect Recovery"!!!
Quote from: Calic on February 02, 2014, 11:44:18 AMIt is an interesting change of perspective. In a way I kind of feel superior to others who are shorter than me now. Unfortunately, a part of me still wants more height but I am thinking less and less of the idea now.
I haven't taken anything for the pain yet as it doesn't bother me enough.
I haven't done any dating since I got back and I am still trying to find a job. I haven't been out much either. I know the added height will help though
I liked the video. It looks like you will be able to make a full recovery. How is the pain when jogging or trying to run?
I'm pretty sure things will work out for you (eg. jobs, dates, etc). You have a long road ahead of you.
I guess this LL is like buying a car. If you're happy with what you have, then it's all that matters. If you want more, have you thought about building your upper and lower body? I watched your video and that was only because you just finished the surgery. Everyone looks like a stick.
I haven't feel any pain. The last time I felt pain was in May.
Quote from: krin0610 on February 02, 2014, 11:53:25 AMGreat to hear from you Mr "Perfect Recovery"!!!
His LL journey was perfect. He's still recovering now. lol
Great to hear from you again, Calic! It's great to follow your recovery. Has anyone ever made any comments about your new proportions or have people only noticed your new height? In my opinion you look completely proportional.
Quote from: Smallguy on February 02, 2014, 08:17:09 PMI guess this LL is like buying a car. If you're happy with what you have, then it's all that matters. If you want more, have you thought about building your upper and lower body? I watched your video and that was only because you just finished the surgery. Everyone looks like a stick.
I really want another LL to be 6' but I also want to look good. I am definitely going to build some muscle and see if that makes me look any better. I am going to wait another year before I take another look at myself and decide if I can handle another LL.
Quote from: Tall on February 03, 2014, 10:10:26 PMGreat to hear from you again, Calic! It's great to follow your recovery. Has anyone ever made any comments about your new proportions or have people only noticed your new height? In my opinion you look completely proportional.
Only my height, nobody has made any comment or questioned my proportions when I have told them about my LL. It is interesting since when I discovered LL proportions was one of the first things I thought about.
I have asked various people about my proportions. One friend said he thought I would look out of proportion with another LL and my Mom thought I might look like I am walking on stilts. Everyone says I look good right now and nobody thinks my tibias look long.
I definitely believe anyone can do a single LL for 2 or 3 inches and look good but doing a 2nd LL for another 2 or 3 inches I do not think everyone can do. Do you think I would still look good with another 1.5 inches added to my femurs?
Hi Calic. Personally, I think you could easily handle ~4CM on your femurs but definitely not any more than 5CM. There are a lot of men with femurs longer than their torsos naturally. These tend to be black men, but I've seen quite a few white men who are naturally this way too. These people don't look weird because their build is a naturally occurring body type. Look at my post in the thread "short torso and long legs" to see what I mean. You could easily pull off 4CM more because your arms are so long. I wish I had arms like yours to start out with (I'm your proportions opposite, short arms and 96cm sitting height). If you didn't have those long arms, you'd look like you were walking on stilts, but your arms make everything come together nicely, and make you look like a naturally long-legged person. I think your LL actually made you look younger (and, of course, taller), because it have you a slimmer profile, since you haven't gotten any wider.
I am biased, after having looked at so many proportions threads, but I think that, currently, your tibias do look just a little too long. I don't think anyone would casually notice, especially while you're wearing pants, but I do think that just a tad more length on the femurs may make your legs look a bit more natural. I don't think that 4 CM on the femur will affect the way your upper body is perceived, but please don't do more than 5CM, jut because, at that point, your hands won't be close enough to your knees to appear natural. But, you could also stay the way you are currently and go through the rest of your life without worrying about being short or having to do another LL. Some people, like Ryan Gossing, have long tibias naturally. These people are rare, but they do exist.
Are you sure you did 6.5CM on your tibs, or is it possible that you may have done a bit more? How did Dr. Sarin measure your final distance? I've often heard that measuring based on X-rays alone is unreliable because it's hard to tell where the bone gaps begin and end.
Anyways, I hope that helps you in some way,
Tall
Quote from: Tall on February 04, 2014, 08:08:14 PMI think your LL actually made you look younger (and, of course, taller), because it have you a slimmer profile, since you haven't gotten any wider.
I was hoping LL would make me look older like an adult I think I might ask my parents if they think I look older. My face has a young look to it so that probably doesn't help either.
Quote from: Tall on February 04, 2014, 08:08:14 PMI am biased, after having looked at so many proportions threads, but I think that, currently, your tibias do look just a little too long. I don't think anyone would casually notice, especially while you're wearing pants, but I do think that just a tad more length on the femurs may make your legs look a bit more natural.
I agree they look too long - I see clear disproportion between my femur and tibia. As long as my femurs are covered with shorts it isn’t easy to tell though. A second LL would balance out my lower legs nicely. I am happy though and the sacrifice in proportion to be 5’10” is worth it. I never think about my current proportions.
Quote from: Tall on February 04, 2014, 08:08:14 PMAre you sure you did 6.5CM on your tibs, or is it possible that you may have done a bit more? How did Dr. Sarin measure your final distance? I've often heard that measuring based on X-rays alone is unreliable because it's hard to tell where the bone gaps begin and end.
No, my final height is well above what it should have been and my tibias were longer than everyone else’s who had a similar starting/final height as me by a big margin like I had done 8 cm.
I recorded on a spreadsheet and was about 7 cm turned on both legs. Dr. Sarin and his assistant measured using a metal scale and the intensifier multiple times. The only thing I can figure is Dr. Sarin lengthened me an additional 5 mm instead of reducing by 5 mm.
I think if you put more muscle on your legs, you would lose the stilty look and could squeeze in some cm on your femurs. I think you should do some lifting for your overall physique too. Is lifting anything heavy out of the question for you right now?
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