Quote from: psilocybe on December 30, 2017, 11:00:28 AMAfter a long hiatus I decided to give online dating a try. I'm 5'3/163cm, white, in my late 20's and live in the US.
I joined Match.com about a week ago. As I expected, not many girls are interested in me. The first girl who messaged me said "Hey cutie!". She's quite attractive. The problem? She's 5'10 and skipped over my stats. I had to remind her of my height, to which she replied "Oh, yeah, dang". I've had about 4 other women do the same thing. They send a flirty message, then realize I'm short and disappear immediately.
The conclusion I draw from this is that I'm generally decent/good looking but women simply cannot look past height. What's frustrating is shorter women are no less shallow. In fact, I see more girls under 5'0 with height requirements above 5'9 than I do with women between 5'0 - 5'5. It becomes humorous finding profiles of short, extremely unattractive women who demand no less than ~5'9. They'd be lucky if anyone was willing to date them let alone someone that tall.
The ultra-religious women are also quite interesting. They exude this sense of pureness and humbleness for being so attached to their faith and yet they are so shallow. For example, one woman's profile reads in part "When I think of what I want in a mate, it is most important that he has a commitment to continually pursue God" "I am most thankful in my life for a God who loves me, guides me, motivates me, and forgives me." I want to ask her questions such as "Is God guiding you only to tall men? Can you ask God what he thinks of you only willing to date Christians above 5'10?" IIRC she's only 5'1 and probably a 5/10 as far as looks go. Literally no different than a devout Christian man saying he'll only date women with a D cup.
The conundrum I have with leg lengthening is two fold.
First, I'm attracted to women with humility. I wouldn't want to date a women so shallow that at 4'11 she'd be completely unwilling to even consider dating someone 5'3. That's just a huge turn off for me. I just read an article about guys above 6'0 responding to women who list off 6'0+ as a requirement and it just turns them off. It's no different for me - if you can't date a guy who's 5 inches taller than you because he's still "short" then "shallow" isn't a strong enough word to describe who you are as a person.
Second, leg lengthening is just that. Leg lengthening. Taller men are bigger. Larger frames, hands, feet, dcks (probably), torsos, etc. I would think a woman dating you would start noticing those things. It will start with little comments. "You have small hands". "You're only a size 7.5?" Stuff like that. Then what? I'm not saying this is an absolute or anything it just seems like leg lengthening wouldn't be a cure-all for being short.
Lastly, I have high income. I make high 6 figures a year. Someone asked in another thread if this helps. I don't think it does. Why? Because 99% of men out there are not abnormally short. If income is what they're after they have the same luxury of finding a taller rich guy if they want to. Ironically, the only girl that matched my desired description (personality, looks, etc) had a desired income for her partner as UNDER $50,000. Seems like she would be intimidated by a "rich" guy.
The solution to all of this:
Everyone considering leg lengthening should instead donate their money to a shady European doctor who will do research in order to figure out some ingenious way to make an adult growth supplement so we can just grow our bodies pain free until we're all 6'4 professional athletes.
LOL, ROFL, LMAO - reading this and visualize my experiences, 100% similar. each everything you said - I experienced m noticed same, everything. And moreover - I am similar height as yours (5 years older than you) , make six figures like you. One thing I completely disagree with you is - even if you can't make rest of the body bigger, doing LL is worth it - most tall men have taller legs (of course they have bigger other limbs as well) and if you do LL and get 4-5 inches you will be far better off in dating market - I have noticed this by wearing 3 inches lift shoes. 5 inches LL would make wonders.
Maybe these girls think you're insecure about your height and want nothing to do with you because the first damn thing you bring up is "oh yea btw im 5'3" lmfao
How about you work on your game like 99.99% of posters on this forum should?
And for Body Builder, quit trying to aggressively push your views on everyone as if they're facts, you're the most insecure poster on this forum, thinking you need height and a good body to bag chicks, you got roid boy Scott Steiner as your AV so I'd imagine you probably juice too, watch WWE like the ignorant man child you are and can only attempt to pick up girls at clubs and bars where a girl expects to get picked up. Congratulations bruh CLL has given you the courage to finally go up to girls at clubs and bars. Let me know when you step outside during the day time and have a conversation with a woman.
Short is considered ugly so you can get girls, but they will be considered ugly. That's the reason I'm so mad about my height. Had I known from the beginning that it is viewed that way then I would not have been so depressed about it.
Quote from: edwardv6 on July 18, 2018, 02:31:52 AMMaybe these girls think you're insecure about your height and want nothing to do with you because the first damn thing you bring up is "oh yea btw im 5'3" lmfao
How about you work on your game like 99.99% of posters on this forum should?
And for Body Builder, quit trying to aggressively push your views on everyone as if they're facts, you're the most insecure poster on this forum, thinking you need height and a good body to bag chicks, you got roid boy Scott Steiner as your AV so I'd imagine you probably juice too, watch WWE like the ignorant man child you are and can only attempt to pick up girls at clubs and bars where a girl expects to get picked up. Congratulations bruh CLL has given you the courage to finally go up to girls at clubs and bars. Let me know when you step outside during the day time and have a conversation with a woman.
I am a philologist-historian so most women, even if I try, can do a real conversation with me as most of the times they are the most superficial and without real intrestings creatures alive.
But yes, I really think that you need a good body and height to bang chicks. Studies nowadays say that women, although thw opposite was thought all these years, are much more superficial about looks and care only for a man's character (loyal, smart etc) when they have to choose between equally attractive men.
If you get out of your cave you'll see that someone must not be insecure to think as I think but a realist.
If you think that a short ugly man can bang beautiful women then go for it. Only millionaires do that and the women next to them see them only as a wallet.
So continue to live on denial while I'll try to be as best as I can to feel completely good with myself and of course have beautiful women next to me who really like me.
Quote from: MrHandsome on July 18, 2018, 12:46:32 PMShort is considered ugly so you can get girls, but they will be considered ugly. That's the reason I'm so mad about my height. Had I known from the beginning that it is viewed that way then I would not have been so depressed about it.
Short is a disadvantage for sure, but height is no guarantee of success. Looking good, toning your body, and being confident go a very long way. If you're short, ugly, and not confident, then yeah, you're going to have a really tough time.
I agree we should be donating to a research doctor
crowfunding our growth
in reality than would take years, millions of dollars, a shady doc and a shady government, not gonna happen soon
Quote from: Body Builder on July 18, 2018, 05:27:00 PMI am a philologist-historian so most women, even if I try, can do a real conversation with me as most of the times they are the most superficial and without real intrestings creatures alive.
But yes, I really think that you need a good body and height to bang chicks. Studies nowadays say that women, although thw opposite was thought all these years, are much more superficial about looks and care only for a man's character (loyal, smart etc) when they have to choose between equally attractive men.
If you get out of your cave you'll see that someone must not be insecure to think as I think but a realist.
If you think that a short ugly man can bang beautiful women then go for it. Only millionaires do that and the women next to them see them only as a wallet.
So continue to live on denial while I'll try to be as best as I can to feel completely good with myself and of course have beautiful women next to me who really like me.
Lmfao your entire post is to reassure yourself of your opinions ["I am a philologist-historian", "have beutiful women next to me who really like me"] whilst putting all the blame on women, being short, ugly, etc. and making assumptions lol I feel sorry for you, but someone had to call you out on your BS. You're like a religious nut, nobody can change your mind because you're in too deep and you need assurance that you did [CLL] and is doing the right things so you come here pushing your idiotic opinions to everyone else like they're facts.
Quote from: edwardv6 on July 19, 2018, 06:41:44 AMLmfao your entire post is to reassure yourself of your opinions ["I am a philologist-historian", "have beutiful women next to me who really like me"] whilst putting all the blame on women, being short, ugly, etc. and making assumptions lol I feel sorry for you, but someone had to call you out on your BS. You're like a religious nut, nobody can change your mind because you're in too deep and you need assurance that you did [CLL] and is doing the right things so you come here pushing your idiotic opinions to everyone else like they're facts.
Ιf I did LL and plan fir another one and wasn't completely sure how important it is for me then I would be a completely idiot.
So of course I believe on the importance of height and having a muscular body (not extremely of course) plus a good style to attract good looking women.
I dont know if you did or you plan to do LL but if you don't believe on the importance of height for having a good life as a man then I cant understand why you are here.
And of course you can feel sorry for me or anyone else.
It is your opinion after all. But what matters more is the general opinion that society has for someone and not a specific person. And I truly believe that for society and for people that know me hardly anyone feels sorry for me, on the contrast many want to be like me (without knowing of course that I am not ok with my height as to others I seem very comfident). I hope the same happens with you.
However, if you are a short man, as I were before LL, it is almost impossible unfortunately.
1,60m ----- no sexual life , except if you pay for it.
1,65m ----- invisible to 98% of women , you simply dont pass the height cut off.
1,70m ----- atractive to some women depending in your face / body aesthetics (maybe 30%), but your height is a negative point , some women will reject you for that.
1,75m----- cut off for most women , you could be atractive to a good % of them ( maybe 70%) depending on your face / body. For 30% of girls you dont pass the height requeriment.
1,80m ------ height is not a negative point in you , maybe a positive . could be atractive to 95% of women depending in your face /body.
Quote from: KrP1 on July 19, 2018, 06:06:12 PM1,60m ----- no sxxual life , except if you pay for it.
1,65m ----- invisible to 98% of women , you simply dont pass the height cut off.
1,70m ----- atractive to some women depending in your face / body aesthetics (maybe 30%), but your height is a negative point , some women will reject you for that.
1,75m----- cut off for most women , you could be atractive to a good % of them ( maybe 70%) depending on your face / body. For 30% of girls you dont pass the height requeriment.
1,80m ------ height is not a negative point in you , maybe a positive . could be atractive to 95% of women depending in your face /body.
I think this is virtually spot on. Every inch/cm between 5'6" and 5'9" (168 to 175) is very crucial.
I think anything below 5'7" (170) is generally when things get really bad. I'm now 5'8" (173) after surgery and have no problems now getting attractive women. But...I'm also in great shape, make well over 100K and have great facial aesthetics (to the point where gay men always hit on me). So...maybe 5'8" wouldn't seem as good without these things.
I can tell you at 5'5" (166), I still did get women/dates/hookups, but it was definitely harder and I was definitely called short.
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