Quote from: Renaissance on April 03, 2019, 03:19:48 PMHey Simons.
Have some updates with Guichet ? How IS your ll process ??
Hey, it's all good. Still alive and doing well. Surgery booked for mid of June.
Quote from: 4cms on April 29, 2019, 04:24:31 AMYea he doesnt look 5'10 or 177cms, He might be but in video looks 5'7 to 5'8
Actually I'm not 177 you are right, I'm 177.5.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on May 01, 2019, 11:39:08 AMYou were fortunate enough to get a great result 7 years ago. Why the fk would you risk breaking and stretching out your legs again? Doesn't the fact that after 7 years you're still not happy give off warning bells? Guichet should be sending you to a psychologist, not taking your money again. 177.5 is a great height.
You're chasing an ideal that doesn't exist. This is all a huge cope. You need to do some serious and honest and probably painful self reflecting if you ever want to find peace. It hurts - I hate it, it can be shattering, but unless you do you'll keep chasing this insane idea that a few more cm will make you happy.
Fortune doesn't exist. Hard work and determination both exist. I had an ideal height in my mind and the only way to reach it would have by with two surgeries. I had a deficit of 5cm in my femurs. Considering the ratio between tibia a femur is like I have increased the length of my femurs of 2cm.
Quote from: krusty86 on April 30, 2019, 09:42:51 AM20 Hours Club 
Are you training with Christian?
Did you decide when you will do the surgery?
Yes, mid of June. Did we meet at the gym? Can't remember.
Quote from: simons on May 09, 2019, 06:55:17 PMActually I'm not 177 you are right, I'm 177.5.
You might be but don't look it, Look like 175 tops.
And I hope you have charged your mind on doing femurs again. It's too much for femurs to handle.
For your own good, Dr guichet doesnt care about you man.
Quote from: 4cms on May 09, 2019, 07:09:47 PMYou might be but don't look it, Look like 175 tops.
And I hope you have charged your mind on doing femurs again. It's too much for femurs to handle.
For your own good, Dr guichet doesnt care about you man.
Ok, I respect your point 
Did you do the second surgery?
Quote from: simons on May 09, 2019, 07:07:00 PMRegarding surgeries I think we should let the doctors decide.
Fortune doesn't exist. Hard work and determination both exist. I had an ideal height in my mind and the only way to reach it would have by with two surgeries. I had a deficit of 5cm in my femurs. Considering the ratio between tibia a femur is like I have increased the length of my femurs of 2cm.
Hi simons
How are you doing? I normally don't really discourage anyone to go through CLL since I understand how they feel and did CLL. However, your case seems to be too much extreme in that 7.5 cm in femurs by the first surgery which was done successfully, fortunately, and another 10 cm in the same femurs by the second surgery which is planned now. In this case you will get 17.5 cm longer femurs than what you had prior to the surgery.
As far as I know, you claim that your femurs were 5 cm shorter than tibias, which I think is hard to believe. Of course you could have had an unusual developmental discrepancy, but 5 cm shorter femurs are very very rare. Even in that case, suppose your proportion may look not bad but gaining 17.5 cm in the segment is absolutely too much.
First of all, you have a high chance of giving up before you reach 10 cm, which is sort of good though.
Second, you will have a high risk of complication, if you push that much. Your recovery will be extraordinarily long.
Third, even if you had 5 cm shorter femurs prior to the surgery, after 17.5 cm gaining you will have 12.5 cm longer femurs which is really not biometrically acceptable. Your athletic ability will drop huge amount just simply due to unnatural proportion, even if you don't have any complication. This will also increase a risk of arthritis or any sort of health problem.
You said "Regarding surgeries I think we should let the doctors decide.", which is right! The thing is you only asked Dr. G. This surgery is not trivial so you should have consultation with at least one or two more Drs. If all three or at least two agreed your plan, go for it! However, I guarantee no doctor will recommend your plan due to the reasons I just mentioned and probably more. If you really want to gain more height, you should consider tibias. Although you may not be able to gain 10 cm in tibia, about 7 cm is doable. Longer tibias will look better and biometrically adapt better. Plus, your tibias never have the surgery so they will tolerate better than your femurs which had already 7.5 cm lengthening.
Lastly, you said "Fortune doesn't exist. Hard work and determination both exist." This is sort of true and I want to believe it is true. However, a lot of time hard work and determination still can't overcome some limitation, unfortunately. Our body naturally has some limitation whether you want to admit or not.
Sorry, if you feel my writing is educational. I certainly do not have any intention to give you any education. I may not be good at writing. But hope you reconsider your plan.
Quote from: wannagrowtaller on May 09, 2019, 11:06:44 PMDid you do the second surgery?
Not yet. Mid of June (2019).
Quote from: Ghostfish on May 10, 2019, 12:38:33 AMHi simons
How are you doing? I normally don't really discourage anyone to go through CLL since I understand how they feel and did CLL. However, your case seems to be too much extreme in that 7.5 cm in femurs by the first surgery which was done successfully, fortunately, and another 10 cm in the same femurs by the second surgery which is planned now. In this case you will get 17.5 cm longer femurs than what you had prior to the surgery.
As far as I know, you claim that your femurs were 5 cm shorter than tibias, which I think is hard to believe. Of course you could have had an unusual developmental discrepancy, but 5 cm shorter femurs are very very rare. Even in that case, suppose your proportion may look not bad but gaining 17.5 cm in the segment is absolutely too much.
First of all, you have a high chance of giving up before you reach 10 cm, which is sort of good though.
Second, you will have a high risk of complication, if you push that much. Your recovery will be extraordinarily long.
Third, even if you had 5 cm shorter femurs prior to the surgery, after 17.5 cm gaining you will have 12.5 cm longer femurs which is really not biometrically acceptable. Your athletic ability will drop huge amount just simply due to unnatural proportion, even if you don't have any complication. This will also increase a risk of arthritis or any sort of health problem.
You said "Regarding surgeries I think we should let the doctors decide.", which is right! The thing is you only asked Dr. G. This surgery is not trivial so you should have consultation with at least one or two more Drs. If all three or at least two agreed your plan, go for it! However, I guarantee no doctor will recommend your plan due to the reasons I just mentioned and probably more. If you really want to gain more height, you should consider tibias. Although you may not be able to gain 10 cm in tibia, about 7 cm is doable. Longer tibias will look better and biometrically adapt better. Plus, your tibias never have the surgery so they will tolerate better than your femurs which had already 7.5 cm lengthening.
Lastly, you said "Fortune doesn't exist. Hard work and determination both exist." This is sort of true and I want to believe it is true. However, a lot of time hard work and determination still can't overcome some limitation, unfortunately. Our body naturally has some limitation whether you want to admit or not.
Sorry, if you feel my writing is educational. I certainly do not have any intention to give you any education. I may not be good at writing. But hope you reconsider your plan.
Thanks for your reply. I respect your opinions. Just a couple of things:
1. I have never said I had femurs 5cm shorter than tibias. I said that considering the ideal ratio between tibias and femurs, my femurs were 5cm shorter than this ideal ratio. My femurs have been longer than tibias even before the first surgery.
2. Gaining 10cm is not mandatory. I will see daily the result.
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