over the years I've come to the conclusion that most women between 175cm and 180cm really don't look at height like short girls.
for example, a girl in the height range mentoned generaly has no problem if a guy is her height or even a little shorter than her, obviously being taller than her is desirable but not a deal breaker.
on the other hand short girls 160 and lower really have a problem with guys not being like 195cm+, I never got why, are they trying compensate their insecurity being short by having a tall boyfriend.
standing at 180cm( I live in the dinaric alps region so 180 is not really that tall, more like slightly below average) I almost never got rejected by a girl my height or taller, they didnt even bring up height, but the short ones said to me "nah, youre to short", not literally in those words but you get my drift.
what are your experiences?
For you very short guys, even if you hit 5'7 or 5'8 you'll be fine
Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on December 15, 2014, 01:54:01 AMMy point was is that most women 5'6" and under will date a guy 5'7". Yes they want a tall man but they'll still date a man who's 5'7" or 5'8". Anything less than 5'6" isn't good not detrimental but not good.
No , they dont. Again, I used to think that exact thing but it was a lie. Women will choose tall men over short men. This idea that a woman who will date a 5ft7 or 8 man when she has a choice of 6ft men is ridiculous. We would have to have several other advantages over the guy 5ft 11 or 6ft.
What you are suggesting is they would rather date us ......................then be ALONE. Well yeah, if you put it that way then if we are their best choice available then they will date us.
We will date FAT women, even OBESE women if they are the best available to us.
5'11 Below average? Where do you live 
Quote from: TomD on December 16, 2014, 04:33:43 AMNo , they dont. Again, I used to think that exact thing but it was a lie. Women will choose tall men over short men. This idea that a woman who will date a 5ft7 or 8 man when she has a choice of 6ft men is ridiculous. We would have to have several other advantages over the guy 5ft 11 or 6ft.
What you are suggesting is they would rather date us ......................then be ALONE. Well yeah, if you put it that way then if we are their best choice available then they will date us.
We will date FAT women, even OBESE women if they are the best available to us.
Damm, you are such a pathetic loser, don't spill around your bull . Women only really care about height when a guy is 5'6 or shorter. Height is not as important as you all make it out to be.
Quote from: 123 on December 16, 2014, 08:48:28 AMDamm, you are such a pathetic loser, don't spill around your bullcrap. Women only really care about height when a guy is 5'6 or shorter. Height is not as important as you all make it out to be.
No you are a naive and uninformed man..he is right. We talking quality women and quality life we talking height.
We talking man looking women without make up?
Then yes height matters less then.
If that wasnt the case 50% of us would not have done this surgery.
Quote from: Slim_tim on December 16, 2014, 08:53:15 AM
No you are a naive and uninformed man..he is right. We talking quality women and quality life we talking height.
We talking man looking women without make up?
Then yes height matters less then.
If that wasnt the case 50% of us would not have done this surgery.
Ok, my bad then. I'll let you insecure losers among yourselves then, sorry for destroying your "reality".
No one cares if you are 5'8 or 6' but I guess you all know better. You guys will never be happy, don't do LL, it won't help any of you and you will just waste that doctors time. Better go and cry in a corner with the tall insecure morons who are 180cm+ and still feel discriminated because they are short. Then you can tell each other why you don't get any pussy at all.
Quote from: 123 on December 16, 2014, 09:00:29 AMOk, my bad then. I'll let you insecure losers among yourselves then, sorry for destroying your "reality".
No one cares if you are 5'8 or 6' but I guess you all know better. You guys will never be happy, don't do LL, it won't help any of you and you will just waste that doctors time. Better go and cry in a corner with the tall insecure morons who are 180cm+ and still feel discriminated because they are short. Then you can tell each other why you don't get any pussy at all.
Lol you are just as insecure as i am. Yes i will laugh in the corner when im 5'11 and removed heightism from my reality.
You seriously dont know how perception wise tall people are to short or average people?
Time to expand your awarness.
Quote from: 123 on December 16, 2014, 08:48:28 AMDamm, you are such a pathetic loser, don't spill around your bullcrap. Women only really care about height when a guy is 5'6 or shorter. Height is not as important as you all make it out to be.
Agreed. He wouldn't be the type of friends you would want to meet in person. Full of dark clouds and obstacles. People like this are only there to drag you down and remind you of your short-coming.
Here is a scenario.
Me: Hey, there are two chicks standing over there. I think we should hit on them.
Him: I feel kind of short today. Maybe today is not my day. Wait after I get LL.
Me: How about you just come with me? And I'll do all the talking.
Him: Actually, the one on the left looks kind of tall. Tall women would never like short me.
Me: How about you just put on some lifts?
... and as we're busy debating this, two other short guys went over and pick up those chicks.
Quote from: Slim_tim on December 16, 2014, 08:53:15 AM
No you are a naive and uninformed man..he is right. We talking quality women and quality life we talking height.
We talking man looking women without make up?
Then yes height matters less then.
If that wasnt the case 50% of us would not have done this surgery.
Yeah man, it sucks being short. But what can you do? You can just sit there and whine, or you can come out and make the best out of what you have. Life is not always perfect. There is always flaw and set-back. You choose to start life after your LL. But I'm starting and enjoying my life now and all the way up to my LL. LL is just an icing on the cake.
True, I don't have the life wisdom and am broke... even though I make $55k/year. But every day, I go out, on the subway, and if there is an opportunity, speak with one girl I find attractive. My record so far has been one quality contact per day on top of work, gym and school commitment.
Sorry to disappoint you. But I'm been following your comments for a while. You will be after LL as you are now. And your posts reflect the type of person you are. L****
Quote from: Smallguy on December 16, 2014, 09:11:26 AMAgreed. He wouldn't be the type of friends you would want to meet in person. Full of dark clouds and obstacles. People like this are only there to drag you down and remind you of your short-coming.
Here is a scenario.
Me: Hey, there are two chicks standing over there. I think we should hit on them.
Him: I feel kind of short today. Maybe today is not my day. Wait after I get LL.
Me: How about you just come with me? And I'll do all the talking.
Him: Actually, the one on the left looks kind of tall. Tall women would never like short me.
Me: How about you just put on some lifts?
... and as we're busy debating this, two other short guys went over and pick up those chicks.
Yeah man, it sucks being short. But what can you do? You can just sit there and whine, or you can come out and make the best out of what you have. Life is not always perfect. There is always flaw and set-back. You choose to start life after your LL. But I'm starting and enjoying my life now and all the way up to my LL. LL is just an icing on the cake.
True, I don't have the life wisdom and am broke... even though I make $55k/year. But every day, I go out, on the subway, and if there is an opportunity, speak with one girl I find attractive. My record so far has been one quality contact per day on top of work, gym and school commitment.
Sorry to disappoint you. But I'm been following your comments for a while. You will be after LL as you are now. And your posts reflect the type of person you are. L****
Yep because everything is black and white. And your comment is more valid than mine. Anything else on your mind mr.freud?
Lets change it up for some perspective shall we?
If a fat man complained about his weight you all would put him down saying "if it was not his weight" it be something else.
Lord and behold this gentlemen found the gym 6 months after and is now 1 year later in amazing shape and has NO let me repeat that NO complaints in his life. Simply this obstacle was his downfall not his entire being.
But you dont get that because you never think and think its like in the tabloids with people going overboard with plastic surgerys like a sheep you soak that in. And you use that way of thinking everytime someone legit complains in order make sense of it.
You dont know crap and you are probably of the older generation in that case i cant blame you for your ignorance.
How tall are you anyway?
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