For you very short guys, even if you hit 5'7 or 5'8 you'll be fine

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Quote from: Slim_tim on December 13, 2014, 07:26:00 AM
Can you compare a 20 year old you to a balding 30 year old you. Thats what im trying to get a across. Fk women they come and go.

fk women huh? Tell that to the OP lol. Anyway of course you cannot compare that age difference, but there are 30 year olds who get LL done it really doesn't matter. Either way I'm still young, below 30 so the age isn't an issue either.

The only problem here is my height, that's why I'm changing it end of story.

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Quote from: Slim_tim on December 13, 2014, 07:26:00 AM
Can you compare a 20 year old you to a balding 30 year old you. Thats what im trying to get a across. Fk women they come and go.

Women don't care if your balding or bald. Just shave your head and you'll look fine.

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Slimtim you've got your opinion of life and thats for you to have. As for me my life won't be over after thirty sure there's   that'll obviously be different than my 20s but so what? That's the way it goes  though I am exceptionally lucky in the genes department (apart from  ty height) all my family members are. There's only one man in either side of my family that went bald before his 50s. Far as getting LL for women that's a really sad reason to do it if that's what anyone does it for can't imagine their luck be any better after LL. If they blame all their failures on their height I imagine there's more scaring women away than his height.

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im not specifically talking about balding per se. I got a head full of hair just like my dad.

When i say "balding" 30 year old. I mean a worn out, emotionally and physically. Your body is also worn down after 10 years of god knows what.
The mind of optimism and taking the world by storm and just getting out there. Will start to fade, you get more family oriented which is fine by all means. But the reason i again mentioned this was because you said you would want this stem cell done in 10 years, you're currently 20 so you would be 30-35 by then.

Thats what i ment by life not being the same.

And you guys went off about me thinking it was all about women, or going bald specifically.

The change between 20 and 30 is HUGE. It's only 10 summers but within these...yeah you get the idea. And you are right absolutely that life does not end at 30 not even close. But that world of impulsivity, youth, love at first sight, and these other "youth" based things will go away when you hit 30. Atleast thats what dad keep telling me, basically everyday...life goes by quick, life goes by quick..suddenly you 40.      So im gonna take my dads word for it that crap is not the same when you hit a certain age. But he also said that the 30's was much better handled as i was saying before about maturity and stuff like that.

20's is like the movie. You live life very straight forward and movie like.
30's is like behind the scenes. It has all the spoilers of how the movie was constructed and its not authentic any more.

And its a new movie coming out called 20's.
But all you get too see is directors cut at 30.

But yeah..youth man.

And you being genetically gifted else where does not matter if you are not exotic looking. Everybody can get that h&m magazine cover look by clothes and the hideous mainstream haircuts that is shown these days. This does not mean that you perse are gentically gifted. You just combined tools of deceit /shoelifts /makeup /hair /clothes /status /self confidence /self image /height /plastic surgery etc.. but not to contradict myself. These tools if used for expression of who you are inside combined with a sense of knowing your potential can make you really beautiful. For real. Not artifical looks.

Having a polo shirt with jeans is "mainstream" attractive and you can base your physical apperance on that.  But real aesthetic beauty is Hard to get by. And it's all individual and personal, like some people have the genetics to look almost... ancient, static , timeless.  But yeah difference between your average tomboy and a really  "gifted" human outside of mainstream perception of manly "hotness".

also to add. Height could be the only reason she is not dating you 100%. Thats why shorter guys get more insecure because they think they must be hideous looking, or lacking some important social aspect/skill or any of these other "cunfidense" marks.

When by fact and this will hit the intellectual short guy hard. That it was because his bone was not long enough that he did not get THAT girlfriend. IM not sayin a girlfriend any fool can do that. But THAT girlfriend that you really liked or whatever. It hits you on another level beyond ridicule and self worth.

The problem becomes existential.

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Yeah I agree. 30 is still relatively young. By the time your like 50 is when things start to get shakey.

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Quote from: Slim_tim on December 13, 2014, 06:23:44 AMI seriously think i would vent by killing someone if after 2 LL surgeries some phaggy russian dude with glasses comes out with this stem cell bs.

And these 12 year old cky spolied brat kids will get it as christmas present. geez thanks mom now i can grow to 6'2 not deserving it yaayy.

Fk no.

i hope it comes out the day im dead. Then you can have it.

ROFL 

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Well that was fun. I read this entire thread and have several points to make.

Im kinda sad that your millennial generation seems just as confused and insecure as we Gen x'ers were in the 90s. 

As for turning 30: When I was 20 years of age the thought of turning 30 meant a wife, kids, house , suit briefcase. I spent much of my 20s living paycheck to paycheck having fun mixed in with being very concerned I would never meet a woman who would marry me nor would my career take off.

Being in your 20s is simultaneously the greatest and challenging time of my life.

When I was 28 my daughter was born and that was basically the end of the road for me in terms of my 'youth'. When you guys have kids it doesnt matter what age it is it will stiffen you up very quickly.

I can tell you that life goes on just as fun when you are 30 or 40. I will let you know how 50 is when I get there. The difference is we grow as people every day so what we find challenging at 20 is boring by 30 which is then boring by 40 and so on.

As for being 5ft 7 , I hover anywhere from 5ft6.5 at night after exercising all day to 5ft8 in the morning all stretched out.

My height average of 5ft 7 is considered 'normal' .........compared to  circus midgets or pygmies that is. I am taller than most women but a good 20% are taller and many are my size. 85% of grown men are taller than I am.

My wife is 5ft 2 and I was very fortunate she saw beyond my height.

Women find men attractive because of our height. Without it, we are not attractive in that way. Just like a woman who is fat. She will not be considered attractive to men in that regard. She can have lots of other qualities that COULD make up for it, but she would have to be quite a lady.

I have lived with ridicule from other men, and been ignored by many women because of my height. Like most of us on here, we are bright, attractive, articulate and presentable. We have all had multiple experiences of having all that chucked out the window because of our height.

Our height costs us in every way possible, whether we want to believe it or not. We have a much smaller group of women to choose from. We need to find those who dont think height matters in a man. We have less of a chance to get a promotion, win elections to public office or even something as simple as being taken seriously in a social situation. 

We in the US have advocates for Black folks. Advocates for women. Groups for Latinos. We got Native Indian  advocates .

There is nobody standing up for short folks -regardless of the fact our height aint our fault. Its not a character flaw. Its a genetic flaw. Height discrimination is one of the few remaining prejudices that is still allowed as fair game.

Of course I am going to have the operations. Even in my 40s I have 30 years or even 40 more years of being over 6ft to gain. You guys in your 20s have 50 or 60 years to live as medium to tall folks. Your damn right its worth it.

How do you put a price on 50-60 years of an easier way of life based on how others will percieve you? I know I cant.

I have spent my life simply denying that being short was a problem . I convinced myself that anyone with half a brain should see beyond it to my character. Its a lie. It does matter. Matters a lot more than we even realize.

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TomD

amazing words. I can almost taste the wisdom of your words with my eyes

I really like reading things from people who understand things properly.

when do you think you will get LL and where?

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Would that I could freeze myself or something until that stem cell therapy is viable but I'd rather see someone implant new growth plates. Not gonna wait 15+ years for that though I should do this surgery as fast as possible and then forget about it.

Got a friend who's 170CM on a good day and he actually does fine with the women.

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Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on December 13, 2014, 08:22:44 AMYeah I agree. 30 is still relatively young. By the time your like 50 is when things start to get shakey.

Please stop boxing yourselves in regarding age.  For starters i'm in my late 40s and am in the best shape of my life.  3 years ago I climbed Kilimanjaro and have done more the a couple of century bike rides the last couple of years (100 mile bike ride equivalent to marathon). The problem with associating rigid characteristics to age is that they become self fulfilling prophecies.  In my 20s I erroneously thought similarly to many on this thread.  That just led to needless anxiety as those milestones came around and worst of all impacted the sweetness of life.   Now I'm not trying to rewrite the laws of nature but man it's not like you go over a cliff on your 30th bday either.   You have some control of how fulfilling and active your life is at all ages don't forget that and if you find yourself being one of those people that use age as the excuse to stop you all I can say - poor excuse!!

In my life I've seen the gamut from 20 somethings ready for retirement homes to 90 somethings burning the midnight oil.  These are obvious extremes but don't lose the message in the dramatization.  I'll leave you with this example to bring home my point.  This past summer I found myself in a new city wanting to go for a group cycle ride.  I found a local club that did regular runs so I signed up for a 40 mile ride.  Everyone in the group was in their 30s -5 0s. The leader of this ride was this incredibly fit rider that spent most of his time waiting for us to catchup. About 3/4 of the way on the trip we stopped at his very beautiful house where he treated us to some food and beverages.  The house was filled with pictures of him and his family and from those pictures of him as a great grandfather it was immediately apparent that the man cleaning our clocks all morning was much older than all of us.  It turned out he was 77 and a serious athlete at any age.    This story isn't a one off there are many similar examples.