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Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 6:44 pm
#11

The biggest post LL squat I've seen is 150 pounds, so about 70kg.

I think even a modest total of 1000 pounds (including, say, a 140kg/310 squat and 180kg/395 deadlift) would be totally outside the realm of possibilities. Basically you will become crap at your hobby. If being tall is more important go for it, but I'll tell you now - kiss your powerlifting potential goodbye.

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Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 6:48 pm
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Quote from: Deads on January 18, 2016, 12:46:57 AMEveryone is different... But statistically, you'll have the best recovery if you stick to the 5cm mark.. If it's just a hobby and you don't need to be at an Olympic level of power lifting then you'll be fine.

I'm a hobbyist bodybuilder, and 5cm per portion seems realistic to me.


Don't play it down by saying "Olympic level". The average person with decent genetics, no LL who trains hard their entire life still won't reach Olympic level.

You will suck at powerlifting by even hobbyist standards if you do LL. A 150kg squat is not impressive and it's very unlikely you will able to get near that.

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Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 7:02 pm
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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 18, 2016, 06:48:13 PMDon't play it down by saying "Olympic level". The average person with decent genetics, no LL who trains hard their entire life still won't reach Olympic level.

You will suck at powerlifting by even hobbyist standards if you do LL. A 150kg squat is not impressive and it's very unlikely you will able to get near that.


Yeah... I know that 150kg is not impressive.. But its not bad for a 69kg person How realistic I am?. Anyway, more important to me as I said before is to know if after I am done with the process will I be able to walk and move like a normal person (taking the scenario in which no complications accure)

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Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 7:49 pm
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Cool. 150 at that weight is decent and shows a level of commitment for sure, and you'll out squat the average gym goer comfortably - but by powerlifting standards, it's really only just getting into intermediate kind of territory.

Considering that after a year most people aren't jogging, or even walking normally, yes people are likely to notice. Especially your gym brahs. long term - you will notice. Others might or might not depending how lucky you are with recovery and what they see you doing. When two years later you're still struggling to squat 100kg people will prob ask wtf happened

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Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 8:24 pm
#15

Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 18, 2016, 06:44:10 PMThe biggest post LL squat I've seen is 150 pounds, so about 70kg.

I think even a modest total of 1000 pounds (including, say, a 140kg/310 squat and 180kg/395 deadlift) would be totally outside the realm of possibilities. Basically you will become crap at your hobby. If being tall is more important go for it, but I'll tell you now - kiss your powerlifting potential goodbye.

I think that the difference between tibial and femoral lengthening is pretty substential when it comes to exercises like squats or leg press. Longer tibias will have little effect on your squat performance compared to femurs. My gym bro has very long femurs and is quit tall, he can barely squat 100kg´s due to his long femurs (he tends to loose his balance when going down), he has no difficulties benchning  140kg´s though, which is way more than I can do.

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Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 11:06 pm
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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 18, 2016, 07:49:57 PMCool. 150 at that weight is decent and shows a level of commitment for sure, and you'll out squat the average gym goer comfortably - but by powerlifting standards, it's really only just getting into intermediate kind of territory.

Considering that after a year most people aren't jogging, or even walking normally, yes people are likely to notice. Especially your gym brahs. long term - you will notice. Others might or might not depending how lucky you are with recovery and what they see you doing. When two years later you're still struggling to squat 100kg people will prob ask wtf happened


Do you know any guichet patients that did this kind of lengthening? Because if I am going femoral, I am doing only 4-5cm with guichet (even though I have a feeling in my head that he is not as good as he is presenting himself to be..)

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Posted on Jan 19, 2016, 1:47 am
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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 18, 2016, 06:48:13 PMDon't play it down by saying "Olympic level". The average person with decent genetics, no LL who trains hard their entire life still won't reach Olympic level.

You will suck at powerlifting by even hobbyist standards if you do LL. A 150kg squat is not impressive and it's very unlikely you will able to get near that.


Dude, settle down. Way to denigrate the guy by telling him his squat is 'average' and 'not impressive'.

I didn't play anything down. TIBIKE said that it was a hobby, so as long as he doesn't need to perform at a peak level then a small reduction in performance will be fine..

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Posted on Jan 19, 2016, 3:12 am
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^ Agreed. 150 Kg squat for 69 Kg bodyweight  is, as said, higher than your average gym-goer. As long as he's not into some intense strength circle he'll be fine with a small increment.

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Posted on Jan 19, 2016, 12:23 pm
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Quote from: Deads on January 19, 2016, 01:47:23 AMDude, settle down. Way to denigrate the guy by telling him his squat is 'average' and 'not impressive'.

I didn't play anything down. TIBIKE said that it was a hobby, so as long as he doesn't need to perform at a peak level then a small reduction in performance will be fine..


What I'm getting at is that at the moment his ceiling is high  - if he wanted to, he could build on that number. It's not impressive but it's a great foundation that probably took a few years of consistent work.

LL destroys that foundation beyond repair. It's very unlikely that he will return to 90% of that and squat ~135 - 140kg. Ability wise, for the next few years and probably the rest of his life, he will be at the beginner level, on par with guys that have been at the gym for a few months. That is NOT a small reduction in performance, it's a significant one.

The question he asked wasn't "Can I perform at an elite/Olympic level", it was "can I return to 90%", which in his case is basically saying "can I perform at an intermediate/decent level".

The answer is no, you probably will not be able to. You might be able to perform the movements, but your ability (at least in the squat, and possibly in the deadlift)  will be that of a beginner, and your ceiling for improvement will be significantly lower.

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Posted on Jan 19, 2016, 12:29 pm
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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 19, 2016, 12:23:42 PMWhat I'm getting at is that at the moment his ceiling is high  - if he wanted to, he could build on that number. It's not impressive but it's a great foundation that probably took a few years of consistent work.

LL destroys that foundation beyond repair. It's very unlikely that he will return to 90% of that and squat ~135 - 140kg. Ability wise, for the next few years and probably the rest of his life, he will be at the beginner level, on par with guys that have been at the gym for a few months.

The question he asked wasn't "Can I perform at an elite/Olympic level", it was "can I return to 90%", which in his case is basically saying "can I perform at an intermediate/decent level".

The answer is no, you probably will not be able to. You might be able to perform the movements, but your ability will be that of a beginner, and your ceiling for improvement will be significantly lower.


what is more important to me is if I will be able to walk normally if everything goes fine. I can ditch the heavy squats and deadlifts for being taller and normal (in terms of walking and moving around and even chasing the bus haha). About the number of years I have been training in the powerlifting world, it's been 1 year and a half.

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