Agree, it would be great if therapy can work. I can understand what he or any person here is going through dealing with their height. Personally, I think the problem with height is that it is associated with Manhood, that’s true where I live at least. It so hard to be treated or to be even looked at like a (less of a man) because of few Cms. It’s not like your fat and want to lose weight or add muscles or get a degree or get rich. That is something out of control & revolution of limb lengthening these years is tempting. Good doctors like Monegal, Pelay, and others play a major role in making the decision easier. Should we care how other view us? Well, that depends!
Some people thinking about these kind of surgeries are confident and have reached high professional and social levels. They are happy with the way they are, but always trying to improve qualities when they ‘can’.
Quote from: Dozer on January 21, 2016, 02:31:05 AMI actually know professional athlets who did LL to get advantage. Like one shortened his humerus to press more lol, and another one lengthened his tibias. Not sure how it went though, didn't ask the doc. But I may next time.
I think you're speculating too much though, Thatdude, are you even a LL patient? If not, where do you get all that information from? Just wondering. And if I get to squat 100 kgs 10 reps with proofs (I've lengthened 15 cms btw (7.5 - 7.5 tib-fem), and my max squat was 90kgs before LOL) will you delete your account? I mean if you're so sure, you should easily accept my challenge.
Dozer, I notice you disappeared after Thatdude accepted your challenge. It's been 3 months since you wrote this and you've been on the site as recently as this week. Should we conclude that you're not actually very hopeful that you'll be able to perform this feat?
Quote from: Quincy on April 21, 2016, 11:29:10 PMDozer, I notice you disappeared after Thatdude accepted your challenge. It's been 3 months since you wrote this and you've been on the site as recently as this week. Should we conclude that you're not actually very hopeful that you'll be able to perform this feat?
This.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 24, 2016, 01:46:33 AMI had BDD as a teenager/young adult so I can relate to the thought process. If my insecurity had have been height, maybe I would have considered LL. I would have ignored the risks and rationalised it away "no-one else is as committed as me, once I get this one thing done I'll finally be able to focus" etc etc. Seeing the kinds of results you get, if I was an athletic person and decided on LL, I would have really struggled mentally and probably been suicidal. This is a surgery designed for people who's quality of life is already really low, not middle class young men struggling with their egos. I think LL is an awful, awful decision ... It needs to be said because this place, like all other fringe forum is an echo chamber where people's delusions and mental illnesses get legitimised.
What is really awful is spending your life for 20, 30 years, sometimes even longer, with the clear consciousness that your current height is just not enough for you to be satisfied with your apperance. That you try to be as humble a person as you can be, but still feel in your deepest inner self that while you can accept many aspects of not being perfect, you can't accept this one thing, that there will always remaing a large chunk of deep disappointment in you because of your height. Try imagining this situation in your life...and then think again if LL is always, under any circumstances an "awful, awful decision"...only because you won't be able to powerlift at a good level? I'm sure you're aware that a lot of people are born with some sort of handicap that keeps them from performing athletic exercises, and will never be able to perform well at these. Do these people simply have awful, awful lives? Should they just kill themselves? Or should they find a way to live their lives with satisfaction?
^Even if you were to fix your height I'm sure you would find something else to obsess over. I used to think I had one major flaw, & if I could fix it I'd be fine. The reality is that I have lots and lots of flaws. I just wasn't aware of them/minimized them due to my tunnel vision. You will always be able to find something else wrong with yourself if you have the kind of personality to end up in this place.
Re: the handicapped, there's a big difference between being born that way and imposing it on yourself.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on July 03, 2016, 08:56:22 PM^Even if you were to fix your height I'm sure you would find something else to obsess over. I used to think I had one major flaw, & if I could fix it I'd be fine. The reality is that I have lots and lots of flaws. I just wasn't aware of them/minimized them due to my tunnel vision. You will always be able to find something else wrong with yourself if you have the kind of personality to end up in this place.
Re: the handicapped, there's a big difference between being born that way and imposing it on yourself.
Being a tall guy, I find it odd that you come here and say that height doesnt mean that much (even though you do admit that height is part of physical attraction and that heightism do exist).
It would be like me (coming from a wealthy family) going to a poor people's forums telling them how money doesnt buy happiness and that one can live happily in a one bedroom flat in the tiest part of town and not in a nice big appartment in the best place in town while the thought of moving to a rundown one bedroom flat in the tiest place in town from my nice big appartment in the best place of town didn't isnt and would never cross my mind.
You would have more credibility if you werent tall and werent suffering from BDD (As you said you are... Correct me on that point if I am wrong).
Btw, I am not thinking you dont have good intentions or anything.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on July 03, 2016, 08:56:22 PM^Even if you were to fix your height I'm sure you would find something else to obsess over. I used to think I had one major flaw, & if I could fix it I'd be fine. The reality is that I have lots and lots of flaws. I just wasn't aware of them/minimized them due to my tunnel vision. You will always be able to find something else wrong with yourself if you have the kind of personality to end up in this place.
Re: the handicapped, there's a big difference between being born that way and imposing it on yourself.
Well...this thread just taught me something about myself.
I chased money for the longest time expecting it would make me happy...it didn't.
So my mind switched to a different obsession, apparently.
Wise comments OBG and DIFM have made just became more clear for sure.
Good to understand that about myself lol. Glad I could share. We need a "feelings" section...
Quote from: CCMidwest on July 03, 2016, 09:45:50 PMWell...this thread just taught me something about myself.
I chased money for the longest time expecting it would make me happy...it didn't.
So my mind switched to a different obsession, apparently.
Wise comments OBG and DIFM have made just became more clear for sure.
Good to understand that about myself lol. Glad I could share. We need a "feelings" section...
It depends on what the scope of this surgery is for people... If it is in order to make you happy, you are in a road for failiure. This surgery is PURELY cosmetic. Nothing more and nothing less. Putting the risks aside, this surgery is for people who are discontent with their height.
This surgery is not life changing. You will be yourself just a little bit taller. If that will put you at peace with your body, so be it. Height (unless like really really short) doesnt have ANY EFFECTS on your life when it comes to career or sociability. About physical attraction, height is part of the package and should not be seen as anything more.
I agree that height is been completely glorified to beyond proportions in this but especially old forum.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on July 03, 2016, 09:53:05 PMIt depends on what the scope of this surgery is for people... If it is in order to make you happy, you are in a road for failiure. This surgery is PURELY cosmetic. Nothing more and nothing less. Putting the risks aside, this surgery is for people who are discontent with their height.
This surgery is not life changing. You will be yourself just a little bit taller. If that will put you at peace with your body, so be it. Height (unless like really really short) doesnt have ANY EFFECTS on your life when it comes to career or sociability. About physical attraction, height is part of the package and should not be seen as anything more.
I agree that height is been completely glorified to beyond proportions in this but especially old forum.
Agreed 100%
+1 LL can help you with your self esteem but it won't cure it just by itself.
Im shorter than average woman in my country yet i had no social problems whatsoever. Seriously half of the forum is thinking like /r/short.
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