Quote from: Alu on January 24, 2016, 12:48:44 AMSo I'm guessing you follow through with this:
Lol, I've see that guy squat heavy and it's an example of why you don't low bar squat with those proportions. And no I'll post a real pic without my face, no danger in that.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 24, 2016, 12:53:06 AMSpend your money & be the guinea pig then ... I hope in 2 years from now you come back & prove me wrong, but odds are you won't. Honestly ... the data suggests it's literally a 100-1 shot for you to squat ~130kg.
I think that if someone goes to the trouble of keeping a diary, they would love to show off their great recoveries ... if they happened. Since we never see anything, it's reasonable to conclude that they probably just don't exist. You can cling to the belief that lengthening less will ensure you have a great recovery if you want, but like I said ... you'd be a guinea pig.
Are you thinking about doing LL? Because you seem very against it.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 24, 2016, 12:57:07 AMAre you thinking about doing LL? Because you seem very against it.
He doesn't want to do it; he was here to sway us from doing it a couple weeks back.
Which begs the question: what's the continued presence here Dude? Does it have to do with the relation you might have with people who artificial have long femurs to torsos?
Quote from: Alu on January 24, 2016, 01:08:54 AMHe doesn't want to do it; he was here to sway us from doing it a couple weeks back.
Which begs the question: what's the continued presence here Dude? Does it have to do with the relation you might have with people who artificial have long femurs to torsos?
I had BDD as a teenager/young adult so I can relate to the thought process. If my insecurity had have been height, maybe I would have considered LL. I would have ignored the risks and rationalised it away "no-one else is as committed as me, once I get this one thing done I'll finally be able to focus" etc etc. Seeing the kinds of results you get, if I was an athletic person and decided on LL, I would have really struggled mentally and probably been suicidal. This is a surgery designed for people who's quality of life is already really low, not middle class young men struggling with their egos. I think LL is an awful, awful decision ... It needs to be said because this place, like all other fringe forum is an echo chamber where people's delusions and mental illnesses get legitimised.
Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 24, 2016, 01:46:33 AMI had BDD as a teenager/young adult so I can relate to the thought process. If my insecurity had have been height, maybe I would have considered LL. I would have ignored the risks and rationalised it away "no-one else is as committed as me, once I get this one thing done I'll finally be able to focus" etc etc. Seeing the kinds of results you get, if I was an athletic person and decided on LL, I would have really struggled mentally and probably been suicidal. This is a surgery designed for people who's quality of life is already really low, not middle class young men struggling with their egos. I think LL is an awful, awful decision ... It needs to be said because this place, like all other fringe forum is an echo chamber where people's delusions and mental illnesses get legitimised.
I dont know what your height is, but being short sucks... It really does... I know that I am inflating the issue (being 171-172cm) but I can't stand to read the stuff about "guys below 5'10-5'9... It hurts...It hurts alot
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 24, 2016, 02:45:00 AMI dont know what your height is, but being short sucks... It really does... I know that I am inflating the issue (being 171-172cm) but I can't stand to read the stuff about "guys below 5'10-5'9... It hurts...It hurts alot
Honestly, if you're being hurt by comments made on the internet, which always speaks in hyperbolic and overgeneralizing terms, and that is the sole reason why you are considering LL...Don't do it. This isn't an issue about whether you are short or not, which considering that you're only 171 in Isreal (I think that's where you live) you're killing yourself over an inch. Don't live your life, or let it be influenced by vicarious means.
Quote from: Alu on January 24, 2016, 03:28:39 AMHonestly, if you're being hurt by comments made on the internet, which always speaks in hyperbolic and overgeneralizing terms, and that is the sole reason why you are considering LL...Don't do it. This isn't an issue about whether you are short or not, which considering that you're only 171 in Isreal (I think that's where you live) you're killing yourself over an inch. Don't live your life, or let it be influenced by vicarious means.
I just want to be average. I dont want to be tall... I dont want my height to play any role in my life. That's why I am being conservative
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 24, 2016, 03:49:06 AMI just want to be average. I dont want to be tall... I dont want my height to play any role in my life. That's why I am being conservative
That's understandable. I'm not arguing the advantages of being taller or average, nor do I have any incentive to dissuade you, but if all that's getting to you is the comments made on the internet, then I'd take a huge step back, avoid the forums for awhile, try therapy, and see what happens from there.
Quote from: Alu on January 24, 2016, 03:54:44 AMThat's understandable. I'm not arguing the advantages of being taller or average, nor do I have any incentive to dissuade you, but if all that's getting to you is the comments made on the internet, then I'd take a huge step back, avoid the forums for awhile, try therapy, and see what happens from there.
I dont suffer from insecurities.. I have alot of friends, dated women, I study medicine (I am supposed to finish this july)... It's just that it has something to do with me. A feeling I have in me that my height plays a role in my life that it shouldn't have. This is why I want only 4-5cm to my height. I dont want to get advanteges from a thing that is not a part of me, yet I dont also to be at a disatvantege
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 24, 2016, 04:01:02 AMI dont suffer from insecurities.. I have alot of friends, dated women, I study medicine (I am supposed to finish this july)... It's just that it has something to do with me. A feeling I have in me that my height plays a role in my life that it shouldn't have. This is why I want only 4-5cm to my height. I dont want to get advanteges from a thing that is not a part of me, yet I dont also to be at a disatvantege
See that can be addressed in therapy. I'm just saying you should, along with every single person in this forum, try to seek mental help. Trust me, I'm no hypocrite. I wouldn't be recommending it if it hasn't in some form worked. I can't guarantee it will work 100% to everyone, (for me personally I at least got out of that socially-seclusion that I placed myself in) but I can say that all of us here need to take a step back from this echo-chamber and at least try to see things differently. If not for the sake of saving yourself thousands of dollars, time, pain, and possible athleticism, then at least for the sake of ensuring that you fully think all the consequences that can follow if you go through with it.
LL is a last resort.
Important Note: I wouldn't be so dissuasive when it comes to LL for people if this surgery wasn't as high-risk and time consuming and expensive. I also wouldn't be so dissuasive if people didn't seem so self-degrading towards their value in this world because of lack of height (especially if you're just ever so shy of average).
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