How realistic I am?

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 19, 2016, 12:29:54 PMwhat is more important to me is if I will be able to walk normally if everything goes fine. I can ditch the heavy squats and deadlifts for being taller and normal (in terms of walking and moving around and even chasing the bus haha). About the number of years I have been training in the powerlifting world, it's been 1 year and a half.

So long as you understand what the trade off really is.

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 19, 2016, 12:34:07 PMSo long as you understand what the trade off really is.

That's the thing. If for example I will have extreme chicken legs I will have to reconsider. If I will look normal with somewhat long legs I can live with that. If I will be able to function as a normal non athletic person I know for sure that I can live happily ever after

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 19, 2016, 12:23:42 PMWhat I'm getting at is that at the moment his ceiling is high  - if he wanted to, he could build on that number. It's not impressive but it's a great foundation that probably took a few years of consistent work.

LL destroys that foundation beyond repair. It's very unlikely that he will return to 90% of that and squat ~135 - 140kg. Ability wise, for the next few years and probably the rest of his life, he will be at the beginner level, on par with guys that have been at the gym for a few months. That is NOT a small reduction in performance, it's a significant one.

The question he asked wasn't "Can I perform at an elite/Olympic level", it was "can I return to 90%", which in his case is basically saying "can I perform at an intermediate/decent level".

The answer is no, you probably will not be able to. You might be able to perform the movements, but your ability (at least in the squat, and possibly in the deadlift)  will be that of a beginner, and your ceiling for improvement will be significantly lower.

You basically communicated the same thing as me.. Just in a more dramatic drawn out way.

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Quote from: Deads on January 19, 2016, 01:37:14 PMYou basically communicated the same thing as me.. Just in a more dramatic drawn out way.

In a more accurate way. I hate the way athletic damage is phrased here. Saying "so long as you don't wanna be an elite athlete don't worry" implies that while you wont be Elite, you could still perform at say the state level - or be above average.  No - if you do LL you won't be able to be any kind of athlete. You will be significantly less athletic than the average person that has any kind of ability. Performance wise it's closer to having your leg amputated than something that might *actually* only detract 5 - 10% off your performance, like an acl tear.

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I actually know professional athlets who did LL to get advantage. Like one shortened his humerus to press more lol, and another one lengthened his tibias. Not sure how it went though, didn't ask the doc. But I may next time.

I think you're speculating too much though, Thatdude, are you even a LL patient? If not, where do you get all that information from? Just wondering. And if I get to squat 100 kgs 10 reps with proofs (I've lengthened 15 cms btw (7.5 - 7.5 tib-fem), and my max squat was 90kgs before LOL) will you delete your account? I mean if you're so sure, you should easily accept my challenge.

Btw, lengthening your tibias should have about zero effect on your squat perfomance, so if you're so concerned about it, you could do external tibias. For just 4 cms that's actually a good idea, it's also cheap.

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Quote from: Dozer on January 21, 2016, 02:31:05 AMI actually know professional athlets who did LL to get advantage. Like one shortened his humerus to press more lol, and another one lengthened his tibias. Not sure how it went though, didn't ask the doc. But I may next time.

I'd love to see what their performance is like

QuoteI think you're speculating too much though, Thatdude, are you even a LL patient? If not, where do you get all that information from? Just wondering. And if I get to squat 100 kgs 10 reps with proofs (I've lengthened 15 cms btw (7.5 - 7.5 tib-fem), and my max squat was 90kgs before LOL) will you delete your account? I mean if you're so sure, you should easily accept my challenge.

Btw, lengthening your tibias should have about zero effect on your squat perfomance, so if you're so concerned about it, you could do external tibias. For just 4 cms that's actually a good idea, it's also cheap.

I've got it from going through a number of diaries and seeing no recoveries that resemble decent athleticism/strength, with the one exception of shyshys leg press/sprints. All we tend to see is a bunch of awkward running and jogging - often, jogging that can only be done for a few minutes before having to stop if you read what patients are saying.

I would love to see it! 100kgx10 would be easily the most impressive post LL squat anyone has seen. I'd have to take your word that you did only squat 90kg pre LL, but regardless, if you lengthened it'd set a new standard. Squats must barbell, to parralel. I won't delete my account, I'll put whatever you want in my signature though.

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Quote from: aspirant185 on January 17, 2016, 11:33:14 PMDon't you think that Leo Messi wouldnt like to be 4-5 cm taller ?

Not every short person in this world wants to be taller. Please don't generalize such a huge number of people.

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Quote from: Dozer on January 21, 2016, 02:31:05 AMAnd if I get to squat 100 kgs 10 reps with proofs (I've lengthened 15 cms btw (7.5 - 7.5 tib-fem), and my max squat was 90kgs before LOL) will you delete your account? I mean if you're so sure, you should easily accept my challenge

Btw are you actually squatting in that range at the moment? Or are you just assuming you could do it?

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 23, 2016, 09:34:47 PMBtw are you actually squatting in that range at the moment? Or are you just assuming you could do it?

I believe he is assuming.If he even claims that he can do it he just cant proof it(altough he wont be able to do it).He is not even sharing his photos right now lol.
Btw im easily accepting your challenge,do it and i wont just delete my account i will burn my pc.
LL ruins your body after a certain limit.

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Quote from: Peaceout on January 23, 2016, 11:01:20 PMI believe he is assuming.If he even claims that he can do it he just cant proof it(altough he wont be able to do it).He is not even sharing his photos right now lol.
Btw im easily accepting your challenge,do it and i wont just delete my account i will burn my pc.
LL ruins your body after a certain limit.

What is the limit though? Because as I said, I "only" want to do 4-5cm