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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 8:06 am
#21

Quote from: biggerdreams on October 08, 2017, 07:39:55 AMLast time I checked we we're movie stars and it isn't 1990...


Thank you Captain Obvious  I was wrong

I could have chosen a completely unknown guy to illustrate my point (face being a more important asset that average height) but my experience here tells me what would have happened: "No, you are lying... Under 5'9 no girl will look at you EVER... I am a handsome blue eyed muscular wealthy and winged 5'8 and I fail at clubs... if you are 6'2 you will have hundreds of girls even if you are fat and ugly..." Incelism is at its highest these days, brah.

You can change Tom Cruise for Zac Efron or Gael García Bernal if the timestamp is important for you.

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 8:19 am
#22

I don't endorse people getting LL for women, but I don't judge since I don't find my motives much better either, but let me ask you all, are you people insane?

What is with this "you won't get a decent women unless you are above...", "women dating men under 5'8 have ulterior motives", "when it comes to dating, height comes first"?!?!

Let me break it down for you all, FACE WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347207000565

You success with women won't increase after limb lengthening surgery if your face is below average, so keep that in mind if your only goal for getting LL is women. If you are not successful with women now, not much will change after LL. Sorry to tell you, but it is not your height that is holding you back.

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 8:21 am
#23

While face is clearly more important and that is well established, height remains an essential factor in determining whether a woman finds an individual attractive.

Also the man you posted is wealthy and a celebrity consequently without those two things he is completely useless.

Women are repulsed by short men without status and money.

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 8:28 am
#24

Quote from: MrHandsome on October 08, 2017, 08:21:23 AMWhile face is clearly more important and that is well established, height remains an essential factor in determining whether a woman finds an individual attractive.

Also the man you posted is wealthy and a celebrity consequently without those two things he is completely useless.

Women are repulsed by short men without status and money.


Are you referring to Tom Cruise?

If you believe that women are repulsed by good looking short men with no status/fame, you are beyond salvaging. Just got for LL, brother, and let's hope you will feel better about yourself in the future.

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 8:43 am
#25

Quote from: lldude on October 08, 2017, 08:19:54 AMI don't endorse people getting LL for women, but I don't judge since I don't find my motives much better either, but let me ask you all, are you people insane?

What is with this "you won't get a decent women unless you are above...", "women dating men under 5'8 have ulterior motives", "when it comes to dating, height comes first"?!?!

Let me break it down for you all, FACE WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347207000565

You success with women won't increase after limb lengthening surgery if your face is below average, so keep that in mind if your only goal for getting LL is women. If you are not successful with women now, not much will change after LL. Sorry to tell you, but it is not your height that is holding you back.

I think one choose to do surgery first of all to defeat his body dysphoria.Dating should be way secondary
Now speaking of women,it is true that they prefer an average (both face and height) guy on a good looking short guy.I have seen it a lot of times,it is well documented.
Woment want to feel safe and protected and they associate this with height.It is stupid(because a short muscular guy could be way stronger than a tall skinny guy) but it is the harsh truth.
If you're very ugly,it is obvious that LL won't improve anything.
But if you are average looking,there will be improvements.Figure out if you're short and good looking.
This is the situation and personally I agree with user Bodybuilder and others

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 9:14 am
#26

Quote from: The Dreamer on October 08, 2017, 08:43:13 AMNow speaking of women,it is true that they prefer an average (both face and height) guy on a good looking short guy.I have seen it a lot of times,it is well documented.


I have seen the opposite, unless you are talking of a really, really short guy. And... "documented"? I'm curious, what do you mean with "documented"?

As a contribution to lldude's article:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11833-the-face-not-the-body-attracts-a-mate/#.VXSngUagy8g

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 9:30 am
#27

Quote from: Ozymandias on October 08, 2017, 09:14:36 AMI have seen the opposite, unless you are talking of a really, really short guy. And... "documented"? I'm curious, what do you mean with "documented"?

As a contribution to lldude's article:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11833-the-face-not-the-body-attracts-a-mate/#.VXSngUagy8g

I read your article.It is clearly stated that among the partecipants of the study "some saw ony the face" and "some saw only the body". It is obvious that when women will see ONLY the face,they will choose the better one.
But in real life this won't happen since we value face+body.
It is clearly an useless study since when men/women choose their partner,they have an overall opinion on both body and face.
Height is synonymous of masculinity and protection.Women seek that since they feel beauty is a female prerogative.It is an ancestral thought
With "documented" i mean also the infinite Youtube videos which are more reliable than those " studies ".
Look at them,usually guys ask them which one prefer,also often ask them if they would prefer a short handsome guy or a tall average guy.The majority says the second one
But I don't need youtube videos for knowing that,I see this everyday in my life's experience
Edit: here a link of an opposite study www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2557540/Height-DOES-matters-Women-want-men-taller-make-feel-protected-feminine.html
There are tons of studies like this,way more reliable than the less half page that you've linked

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 9:40 am
#28

We all know that height matters to a certain extent but there are also other factors you have to consider too. You shouldn't do this surgery just for women thinking you're going to get a lot more girls  as not much will change. Getting rid of height dysphoria should be the main reason to do ll.

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 10:09 am
#29

Quote from: The Dreamer on October 08, 2017, 09:30:24 AMI read your article.It is clearly stated that among the partecipants of the study "some saw ony the face" and "some saw only the body". It is obvious that when women will see ONLY the face,they will choose the better one.
But in real life this won't happen since we value face+body.
It is clearly an useless study since when men/women choose their partner,they have an overall opinion on both body and face.
Height is synonymous of masculinity and protection.Women seek that since they feel beauty is a female prerogative.It is an ancestral thought
With "documented" i mean also the infinite Youtube videos which are more reliable than those " studies ".
Look at them,usually guys ask them which one prefer,also often ask them if they would prefer a short handsome guy or a tall average guy.The majority says the second one
But I don't need youtube videos for knowing that,I see this everyday in my life's experience
Edit: here a link of an opposite study www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2557540/Height-DOES-matters-Women-want-men-taller-make-feel-protected-feminine.html
There are tons of studies like this,way more reliable than the less half page that you've linked


Wow, you found a study that proves that height matters. Impressive!

Sadly, nobody is discussing that height matters. We all know that, and that's why we are planning to break our legs, for fks sake. We are saying that a "shortish" man (not a midget) with a beautiful face usually have more success with ladies than a ugly, average height guy.

The article does not address that question, as far as I know (I have to admit that I didn't read it carefully because I'm not very fond of British tabloids... Actually, I would be really skeptical of anything coming from such a "source")

However, I found this interesting:

QuoteIn contrast, nearly half of the women – 48.9 per cent – wanted to date only men taller than they are.


So more than half of women would actually date a man shorter than they are?  I was wrong

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Posted on Oct 8, 2017, 2:15 pm
#30

Quote from: Ozymandias on October 08, 2017, 07:30:02 AMI was wrong

Tell that to this 5'7 guy called the "sxxiest Man Alive" just because of his face.

"Hey Tom, you had much less successes with women that an average looking tall guy, right?"

I was wrong

It is really stupid to compare Cruz with an average man.
Still, the najority of women refer to him as short and he would be considered much better if he was at least average height.

Finally, Hollywood in the first years promoted Cruz for 5.10-11 height before it was knows he is short.
That's a proof of how important is height even to a handsome and famous man.

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