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Quote from: Body Builder on October 08, 2017, 02:15:52 PMIt is really stupid to compare Cruz with an average man.
Still, the najority of women refer to him as short and he would be considered much better if he was at least average height.

Finally, Hollywood in the first years promoted Cruz for 5.10-11 height before it was knows he is short.
That's a proof of how important is height even to a handsome and famous man.

Who the hell is "Cruz"?

Whatever. You are again changing the subject. No one is discussing that height is important for a man, no matter if he is a celebrity or not. We are discussing face being a more important asset than height, or viceversa.

Be honest: do you think that Cruise would have achieved his sex symbol status if he was an average height (or even tall) man with an average face?

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I have not read this thread but I bet there is one post by Body Builder where he says that height is absolutely super important to all women.

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Quote from: lldude on October 08, 2017, 08:19:54 AMI don't endorse people getting LL for women, but I don't judge since I don't find my motives much better either, but let me ask you all, are you people insane?

What is with this "you won't get a decent women unless you are above...", "women dating men under 5'8 have ulterior motives", "when it comes to dating, height comes first"?!?!

Let me break it down for you all, FACE WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347207000565

You success with women won't increase after limb lengthening surgery if your face is below average, so keep that in mind if your only goal for getting LL is women. If you are not successful with women now, not much will change after LL. Sorry to tell you, but it is not your height that is holding you back.

I agree. But my point is that there are even beautiful girls that dont care about either. I imagine its extremely rare and maybe I have the worst luck ever but the guy this girl is dating is about 5'5, below average face, and lives with his parents. However, he does have one thing going for him, hes extremely religious.

And so is she and she was looking for that type of man and found him. So I guess there are other factors involved.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on October 08, 2017, 03:40:27 PMI have not read this thread but I bet there is one post by Body Builder where he says that height is absolutely super important to all women.

Lol. Spot on.

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In movies it's sometimes better to have short actors because they can fit into the scene and shot. But in real life being short is unequivocally not preferred.

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The benefit of being a man is that you can impress woman with your personality. This however requires that you look at least normal and this includes the height, meaning you should be at least 168cm.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on October 08, 2017, 03:40:27 PMI have not read this thread but I bet there is one post by Body Builder where he says that height is absolutely super important to all women.

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Quote from: Ozymandias on October 08, 2017, 03:16:13 PMWho the hell is "Cruz"?

Whatever. You are again changing the subject. No one is discussing that height is important for a man, no matter if he is a celebrity or not. We are discussing face being a more important asset than height, or viceversa.

Be honest: do you think that Cruise would have achieved his sxx symbol status if he was an average height (or even tall) man with an average face?

No.
But he wouldn't achieve it either if women knew from the biginning that he is a less than 5.7 tall man.
Short men never become sex symbols. The same with fat women.

@Iwannabetaller: I'd have been stupid to broke my legs and plan to broke them again if I didn't believe that height is the most important factor in a man's appearance.
After all I have a good face and 48 cm arms and still many average facialy and bodily but tall men I know have more successes than me with women without great effort.
This is the best proof for me of the great importance of height.

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Quote from: tallertree on October 08, 2017, 09:41:31 PMThe benefit of being a man is that you can impress woman with your personality. This however requires that you look at least normal and this includes the height, meaning you should be at least 168cm.

168cm? You must be joking. The minimum these days is about 173cm or 175cm depending on the country.

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 08, 2017, 11:42:57 PMNo.
But he wouldn't achieve it either if women knew from the biginning that he is a less than 5.7 tall man.
Short men never become sxx symbols. The same with fat women.

@Iwannabetaller: I'd have been stupid to broke my legs and plan to broke them again if I didn't believe that height is the most important factor in a man's appearance.
After all I have a good face and 48 cm arms and still many average facialy and bodily but tall men I know have more successes than me with women without great effort.
This is the best proof for me of the great importance of height.

Tom Cruise is only considered attractive because of his money and fame. Without those two entities Mr. Cruise would not be considered attractive to women. Especially in modern times.

Being a short man under 175cm is comparable to being a fat woman in modern society. Also please keep in mind that fat women are treated like   in the workplace as are short man. There are so many apparent similarities between the two body types that it is apt to say that they are both commensurate.