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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on October 09, 2017, 01:06:27 PMYou are not 5'7''. How can you even know? How can you tell a man who really has that height that he has it extremely hard when you have never lived his life?

You're asking alway the same question.
It is not like if you're above 5'7,you can't see that.You don't have to be in that body.You see this from your daily experience.Assuming similar personality and appearance, 170 cm guys usually have a harder time than 175 cm guys that have more problems than 180 cm guys and so on.
No one said 5'7 guys can't have dates
Stop being so fatalistic

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Quote from: The Dreamer on October 09, 2017, 01:44:15 PMYou're asking alway the same question.
It is not like if you're above 5'7,you can't see that.You don't have to be in that body.You see this from your daily experience.Assuming similar personality and appearance, 170 cm guys usually have a harder time than 175 cm guys that have more problems than 180 cm guys and so on.
No one said 5'7 guys can't have dates
Stop being so fatalistic

You are the fatalistic one - you say that a huge group of people, most of who you don't even know, have it extremely hard. You simply cannot make that judgement from your own position. What if I told you "from my own daily experience, jews are deceiving, dishonest liars". Would that make it objectively true?

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 08, 2017, 11:42:57 PMNo.
But he wouldn't achieve it either if women knew from the biginning that he is a less than 5.7 tall man.

Yes, he would. He never appeared tall in movies anyway.

Quote from: Body Builder on October 08, 2017, 11:42:57 PM
Short men never become sxx symbols. The same with fat women.

Short men do become sxx symbols. You are insane if you believe otherwise.
Zac Efron 5'7
James Dean 5'7
Marlon Brando 5'8


Quote from: MrHandsome on October 08, 2017, 11:59:44 PMTom Cruise is only considered attractive because of his money and fame. Without those two entities Mr. Cruise would not be considered attractive to women. Especially in modern times.

Yeah, yeah, he is soooo mediocre.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on October 09, 2017, 03:36:14 PMYou are the fatalistic one - you say that a huge group of people, most of who you don't even know, have it extremely hard. You simply cannot make that judgement from your own position. What if I told you "from my own daily experience, jews are deceiving, dishonest liars". Would that make it objectively true?

I was less than 5.7 and now 5.9, so from what you say I could know what happens between short an average men, right?
Wrong and you know why?
Because what I live the last 5 years that I finished LL is exactly what I saw when I was short with average height men and I always knew what is about to live as an average or a tall guy even if I was short.
And now that I am average I already know and see how good is the life of a tall man and thats why I want so much to do another LL.

So there is no reason to be something to see how it is, unless you have a denial complex.
But even if you still believe that if someone is not in a certain condition he couldn't know how it is, I was in that condition and I know so from what you said I am the most suitable to write about that.
And yes, living as a short man creates many social problems and especially on dating it is really bad.
If someone does not believe that but he thinks about LL then he is lying to himself.
After all, if height was not so important we wouldn't have done something so extreme to change it.

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Quote from: lldude on October 09, 2017, 03:57:16 PMYes, he would. He never appeared tall in movies anyway.

Short men do become sxx symbols. You are insane if you believe otherwise.
Alain Delon 5'9
James Dean 5'7
Marlon Brando 5'8


Yeah, yeah, he is soooo mediocre.

5.9 and 5.8, even 5.7 was not short for 60's.
And from hundreds of actors who became sex symbols you could only recall one who was 5.7, even half a century before.
And finally, the thing that a short man should have a so good face like Tom Cruize's to be successful with women while a tall man who has a simply not ugly face and a built body can have the same and more successes proves how imoortant is height.
If you are like Tom Cruize then ok, you'll have successes with women (not so many as a good looking tall man though) but 99,99 of short men are not.
And that's why they have a great disadvantage on dating.

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Anyone who would take life advice from someone into bodybuilding isn't thinking clearly. People who lift weights as an obsessive hobby are some of the most insecure people on the planet as their whole existence is based on how other dudes look at their muscles. Listening to bodybuilder about how women are is like taking diet advice from Rosie O'Donnell.

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I think the point of arguing height is important in dating and everything else in for men on a leg lengthening forum is probably redundant. When I read some of the posts, I hear exactly the same things that taller guys told me about why they had more success with women. They would say things like "be nice and talk to them". "There are short guys who do well with women". "Its not about height". Well we can't know what its like to have a disadvantage we don't have.

I think its also important to recognize that if you have a long-standing group of friends, it may be possible to date high-quality girls even if you are shorter. I've seen this. But I just can't get over this feeling that she's going to feel that she can do better someday and then what? Like body builder said before - he dated hotter girls before LL. I dated quite a few girls before LL. Even though some of them were nice, every single one except for one mentioned my height in some respect.

And also, the protection thing bodybuilder is talking about is true - it's hard-wired into both sxxes and we like what we like (attraction is not a choice). Yes society is evolved but biology doesn't evolve that fast. I think it also has to do with what the girl's fathers height were. If you are shorter, start asking the girls you date what their father's heights were, more often then not, it was average or slightly smaller. I think it has more to do with these girls knew even those these men were smaller, they were successful in protecting them and realized its not about size.

And the guy above is obviously a troll look at his insignia and post history.

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Oh yeah, I'm the troll when you guys are in here having a "No woman will ever find me attractive until I have stilts for legs and walk funny" pity party circle jerk.

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 09, 2017, 04:17:29 PM5.9 and 5.8, even 5.7 was not short for 60's.
And from hundreds of actors who became sxx symbols you could only recall one who was 5.7, even half a century before.

The list is long brother:
Mark Wahlberg 5'7
Jame McAvoy 5'7
Robert Downey Jr 5'8 (he is probably a member of this forum )
Gael Garcia Benal 5'7
...and many more
Quote from: Body Builder on October 09, 2017, 04:17:29 PM
And finally, the thing that a short man should have a so good face like Tom Cruize's to be successful with women while a tall man who has a simply not ugly face and a built body can have the same and more successes proves how imoortant is height.
If you are like Tom Cruize then ok, you'll have successes with women (not so many as a good looking tall man though) but 99,99 of short men are not.
And that's why they have a great disadvantage on dating.

I agree with you here; unfortunately, sometimes you will have to compensate your short height with something else (you don't have to be as beautiful as Tom Cruise thoug;h; it was just an example).

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Quote from: Big Daddy on October 09, 2017, 04:54:57 PMAnyone who would take life advice from someone into bodybuilding isn't thinking clearly. People who lift weights as an obsessive hobby are some of the most insecure people on the planet as their whole existence is based on how other dudes look at their muscles. Listening to bodybuilder about how women are is like taking diet advice from Rosie O'Donnell.

Ehmm if People feel bad and you dont like them Why do you Go to a forum and waste your time on putting them down.
Do you also go on nose job , boobjob, hair transplant forum and waste your time ?