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Quote from: lldude on October 09, 2017, 05:35:29 PMThe list is long brother:
Mark Wahlberg 5'7
Jame McAvoy 5'7
Robert Downey Jr 5'8 (he is probably a member of this forum )
Gael Garcia Benal 5'7
...and many more
I agree with you here; unfortunately, sometimes you will have to compensate your short height with something else (you don't have to be as beautiful as Tom Cruise thoug;h; it was just an example).

All those actors are from the 90s modern day actors need to be about 5'9 which is the cutoff these days.

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Quote from: jojo on October 09, 2017, 06:52:42 PM
Ehmm if People feel bad and you dont like them Why do you Go to a forum and waste your time on putting them down.
Do you also go on nose job , boobjob, hair transplant forum and waste your time ?

Those surgeries are really minor compared to ll, that's why he probably comes here instead of going to those old forums.

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Quote from: jerkey on October 09, 2017, 05:01:15 PMI think the point of arguing height is important in dating and everything else in for men on a leg lengthening forum is probably redundant. When I read some of the posts, I hear exactly the same things that taller guys told me about why they had more success with women. They would say things like "be nice and talk to them". "There are short guys who do well with women". "Its not about height". Well we can't know what its like to have a disadvantage we don't have.

I think its also important to recognize that if you have a long-standing group of friends, it may be possible to date high-quality girls even if you are shorter. I've seen this. But I just can't get over this feeling that she's going to feel that she can do better someday and then what? Like body builder said before - he dated hotter girls before LL. I dated quite a few girls before LL. Even though some of them were nice, every single one except for one mentioned my height in some respect.

And also, the protection thing bodybuilder is talking about is true - it's hard-wired into both sxxes and we like what we like (attraction is not a choice). Yes society is evolved but biology doesn't evolve that fast. I think it also has to do with what the girl's fathers height were. If you are shorter, start asking the girls you date what their father's heights were, more often then not, it was average or slightly smaller. I think it has more to do with these girls knew even those these men were smaller, they were successful in protecting them and realized its not about size.

And the guy above is obviously a troll look at his insignia and post history.

I agree, pointing out that height is important is not going to accomplish anything here. We all know it's important so there's no need to point it out constantly.

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Quote from: jerkey on October 09, 2017, 05:01:15 PMI think the point of arguing height is important in dating and everything else in for men on a leg lengthening forum is probably redundant. When I read some of the posts, I hear exactly the same things that taller guys told me about why they had more success with women. They would say things like "be nice and talk to them". "There are short guys who do well with women". "Its not about height". Well we can't know what its like to have a disadvantage we don't have.

I think its also important to recognize that if you have a long-standing group of friends, it may be possible to date high-quality girls even if you are shorter. I've seen this. But I just can't get over this feeling that she's going to feel that she can do better someday and then what? Like body builder said before - he dated hotter girls before LL. I dated quite a few girls before LL. Even though some of them were nice, every single one except for one mentioned my height in some respect.

And also, the protection thing bodybuilder is talking about is true - it's hard-wired into both sxxes and we like what we like (attraction is not a choice). Yes society is evolved but biology doesn't evolve that fast. I think it also has to do with what the girl's fathers height were. If you are shorter, start asking the girls you date what their father's heights were, more often then not, it was average or slightly smaller. I think it has more to do with these girls knew even those these men were smaller, they were successful in protecting them and realized its not about size.

And the guy above is obviously a troll look at his insignia and post history.

My gf's father's height is 6'1 so here is your theory going down the drain (like all stuff said here).
 


Do you guys know what women also like? Chizeled jawline... I bet all the milions of guys who don't have chizeled jaw are having a hard time with women... You guys should check the reddit/incel... It's full of tall fellas who blame all their misery for the lack of a chizeled jawline.

I sincerly think that the vast majority of guys here suffer from some sort of Aspergers... This white and black thinking, not being able to look at things without absolutes is a major symptom of Aspergers...

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Quote from: MrHandsome on October 09, 2017, 07:23:57 PMAll those actors are from the 90s modern day actors need to be about 5'9 which is the cutoff these days.

Hollywood can make anyone a sex symbol if it wants to. There's no height cutoff in the entertainment world.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on October 09, 2017, 09:09:40 PMMy gf's father's height is 6'1 so here is your theory going down the drain (like all stuff said here).
 


Do you guys know what women also like? Chizeled jawline... I bet all the milions of guys who don't have chizeled jaw are having a hard time with women... You guys should check the reddit/incel... It's full of tall fellas who blame all their misery for the lack of a chizeled jawline.

I sincerly think that the vast majority of guys here suffer from some sort of Aspergers... This white and black thinking, not being able to look at things without absolutes is a major symptom of Aspergers...

Tibike as you claim you are a 5.7 man in Italy who feels about average height, has plenty of gfs etc etc.
Everything you say is on the contrast of what I see in my everyday life and from what my experience taught me.
So either you are lying or you are the exception to all rules.
In both circumstances, what you say are the exception and not the rule so we are not having any asperger syndrome but we are very honest and dont live in denial.

I will be one of the few people that, if things go ok with my second LL, have lived as short, average and almost tall (because 1.81-2 imo is definitely more than average and close to tall) so I would have the clearest view of what is going on with height and the imoortance of it.
From now, what I see is exactly what I thought when I was short and I'd never trade the 7.5cm I gained even for 1 million dollars as they were completely life changing. But still they are not enough to don't have a drawback on height, not crucial for the majority of women but still drawback.
When I'll become 1.82 I'll write if this gain was really lifechanging like my first LL. My experience says that an 1.82 man compared to an 1.75 has a way easier job on dating most of all but and his everyday life (how people perceive him, the respect he receives etc) too .

So I will be one of the few examples of the exactly same person living as short, average and (almost) tall.
After my second LL I am sure that I will be the one of most suitable persons to talk about the significance of height, as my life will be a living example of all these.

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Hey Bodybuilder, which state do you live in? Are you gonna do arm lengthening too with femurs?

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Quote from: jerkey on October 09, 2017, 10:39:50 PMHey Bodybuilder, which state do you live in? Are you gonna do arm lengthening too with femurs?

I live in South europe. I won't mention my country.
And of course not. I've written again that I am completely against AL as I believe it is necessary only for dwarves.

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 07, 2017, 06:33:51 PMYves if you think that because one girl is not superficial about height the majority of women are like that then you'll soon hurt again from another girl.

Height is the number 1 factor in a man's appearance. When a woman talks to her friends about a new guy the first they are asking is if he is tall. Not handsome, not built, not dark or blonde, tall.
So it is very important and that won't change from one girl's choice.

I don't agree. The No.1 factor, I think, is his face. I've seen way too many tall guys get bad reviews from girls because of their not so good faces.
Second, when a woman talks about her crush, her girlfriends usually ask "is he smart" first up. Then comes, what does he do? and THEN comes what does he look like

Maybe we have different experiences, but I've closely noticed how girls talk about guys, and this is often how it is. Height comes in only if the guy's really tall (a plus) or really short (a minus)

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 08, 2017, 12:38:57 AMFace is more important than height only if you are above average.
If you are short then even if you look like Adones you'll still have much less successes that an average looking tall guy.
Women want to feel protected, not to be with men like Ken the doll. Thus they want tall and big guys even if they are not very handsome. Being masculine and have a big body is enough.
Having a good face is of course important but not more than being taller than average.

Again, I respectfully disagree. My senior in college was 6'2", and he dated 1 girl in his final year. I dated 2 girls in my final year, both of who were MUCH more attractive than his girl.
He had an average face and an average personality.
Not to sound arrogant, but I have an above average face and an above average personality.
What's more, this same senior got rejected 2 times before getting this girl he settled down with in his final year, so you can't put his bad luck down to a lack of trying, cause he did try.

Don't mistake me, I'm 100% going to do my LL, but all I'm trying to point out here is: 1) it's not a panacea for all your ills and 2) height isn't the be all and end all of your problems, it's just one of them. But because we tend to think of it so often, we blame everything on it.