Quote from: Body Builder on October 25, 2020, 11:37:41 PMYou are free to believe in alternatives and live your life miserably for many years waiting for some miracle that will get you tall with a pill or injection or something like that.
That's just pure unadulterated rat ŝhit coming from this fruitcake....
Just cause some of us here would love to see a better, superior alternative to the contemporary barbaric elective that's currently going around at $100k with sum additional $$$ (another 50k) for emergency contingencies just to fking even have a 90% chance of undergoing the whole damn ordeal smoothly unscathed (since that's what the pros are charging) which is based on an almost 100 years old ancient science makes us crazy delusional lunatics best consigned to an asylum according to this fruitcake lmao!
I don't know about others but I'm only 22 years old and thus prudently can afford to wait at the very least 10 years for a superior alternative to emerge, based on tangible concrete evidence from my perusal of the current technological trajectory of the biological sciences which includes stem cells, bones and cartilages I can assuredly say we have the technology right now, currently available to treat short height but for obvious reasons won't get manifested because of the complete and utter bantherpiss ŝhitte of a culture/society in the west especially the US where most of these researches would've taken place.
My only hope is capitalism and tangentially related r&d development to height growth like stem cells, bioprinting, cartilage implantation all of which is feasible right now that'll usher in the secret to growing taller proportionally without any limits and also without harming anything in the human body basically recreating the growth spurt period while maintaining the unclosed growth plate however long someone desires.
Only luddites that doesn't even understand how science works let alone even have the mental capacity to appreciate it to any meaningful degree would deem my choice as being crazy/stupid/delusional or egregiously equate my foresight as being merely composed of blind faith in a miracle silver bullet in some god knows how long distant future.
Quote from: extremis on October 18, 2018, 03:27:07 AMThis thread is for the skeptics (one of whom is particularly egregious) on this board who believe that traditional distraction osteogenesis using an Ilizarov frame or magnetic nails is the only procedure we're likely to see for effective limb lengthening in our lifetime or within the next 20 (or whatever ridiculous, inflated number) years.
Those of you who have seen me post on this board before have most likely seen me say time and again that we're no further than 10 years away from a safer, more effective procedure that could allow for even more growth than distraction osteogenesis with much greater (if not total) retention of physical abilities, particularly athletic ability. The last time I discussed this on this board was a few months ago now (I haven't posted in a while), and I had one back-and-forth with what is possibly the most fervent skeptic on this board that terminated with that individual essentially dismissing my claims regarding the imminent creation of such a technique as a fantasy or product of hopeful delusions.
I responded to this by informing that poster that they were a scientific illiterate and do not understand the way scientific progress works, or the magnitude of the increase in the rate of scientific discovery and advancement in the information age. Well, being an enthusiast and hobbyist of several biomedical fields, I constantly keep myself up-to-date with recent scientific advancements and discoveries in those same fields. And, earlier this week while I was browsing my sources, I happened upon these very interesting morsels:
https://physicsworld.com/a/handheld-biopen-prints-human-cartilage/
QuoteHandheld biopen prints human cartilage
04 Oct 2018
A handheld “biopen” capable of 3D printing cartilage tissue could for the first time be used during surgery to treat cartilage injuries and osteoarthritus. The extrusion-based device, which prints live stem cells embedded in a hydrogel material, produces constructs that look and behave just like natural articular tissue (Biofabrication 10 045006).
“This is in stark contrast to conventional reparative cartilage made of fibrocartilage, which is very different in structure to physiological cartilage, inferior in quality and not durable,” say the researchers, a multidisciplinary team that includes surgeons, biologists, physicists and engineers. “Our technique and the scaffolds we are able to produce provide much hope for treating patients suffering from cartilage injuries and osteoarthritis.”
While some success has been reported for surgical treatments that exploit engineered cartilage tissue, existing procedures require two separate operations: one to remove the damaged tissue, and another to replace the tissue once it is repaired. What’s more, surgeons report a high failure rate – partly because pre-fabricated scaffolds might not perfectly match the defect, and partly because the implanted tissue is not similar enough to natural cartilage to survive for long inside the body.
Note that this is WITHOUT major attention being paid to the field of cartilage tissue engineering. Furthermore, this article actually serves as a follow-up to this other article:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biopen-speeds-up-stem-cell-repair/
QuoteBiopen speeds up stem-cell repair
20 Mar 2018
As 3D printing technology evolves and advances, we are getting ever closer to the goal of being able to implant 3D printed tissues inside the body. At present, 3D printed cells must first be cultivated and then allowed to grow into viable tissue – which normally takes a few days. But a new instrument, dubbed the biopen, could help to speed up this process. The biopen, developed by researchers in Australia, could allow surgeons to repair damaged bone and cartilage by “drawing” new cells directly onto bone during surgery and then filling in any damaged areas.
I've taken the liberty of bolding and underlining something particularly interesting about these two articles. Notice what it is? The second article, which is about the original release of the Biopen, was published on March 20th of this year, while the first one, which details successful forays into cartilage printing using the Biopen (and even upcoming attempts to surgically implant the tissue) was published this month, roughly 7 months later.
Then there's this:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181010105531.htm
QuoteWith today's technology, we can 3-D-print sculptures, mechanical parts, prosthetics, even guns and food. But a team of University of Utah biomedical engineers have developed a method to 3-D-print cells to produce human tissue such as ligaments and tendons, a process that will greatly improve a patient's recovery. A person with a badly damaged ligament, tendon, or ruptured disc could simply have new replacement tissue printed and ultimately implanted in the damaged area, according to a new paper published in the Journal of Tissue Engineering, Part C: Methods.
The paper, for the scientifically-inclined:
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ten.tec.2018.0184
So it's now possible to 3D print connective tissue such as ligaments and tendons, which are among the soft tissue that is distended and damaged by distraction osteogenesis (ultimately resulting in loss of physical ability). The paper was published on September 14th of this year. This again follows up on the Biopen article from months before, as well as several other research papers involving printed biological tissue that have been published throughout this year.
And again I repeat that all this progress comes without any special attention paid to the field of tissue engineering. This is a natural progression. So, as I've always said, there's nothing absurd about asserting that a non-crippling, safer, better alternative to distraction osteogenesis could be as close as 10 years away, probably more like 7 or 8 if height increase had as much impetus from the (overwhelmingly male) community of short statured people who want to be taller as androgenic alopecia gets from men/women who are balding or weight loss procedures get from overweight people.
Stuff like this is the reason why bullsh*t copes like "therapy" and "acceptance" (i.e. resignation) should NEVER be suggested as "solutions" to height dysphoria or any problems involving a person's height. The community ought to be encouraging short people who have experienced heightism and/or are otherwise unhappy with their height to make as much money as they possibly can so we can all come together and help FUND research like this, so that we can ALL have a solution that doesn't involve excruciating pain and risk of being permanently crippled a la unicorn from this board.
ZUCC420, you don't get it. No one is against research to find ways to get taller without surgery. But we have some not-so-bright-bulbs who rely on unproven techniques that are ineffective, leads to scams, and very dangerous.
They keep referring to this website on LSJL as a viable alternative to CLL surgery: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/lsjl/
What is LSJL? LSJL is Lateral Synovial Joint Loading.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/lsjl/what-is-lsjl-t941.html (go to post #2)
Is a way of inducing growth, through adding weight (loading) the epiphyses (the ends of the bone, the green rectangle in the image) rather than the diaphysis (the red rectangle, where most adolescent growth comes from).
It talks about placing pressure on your bone ends, like tightly wrapping rubber straps around there, even placing a metal C-clamp or banging it with a hammer many times over. Obviously BS, so the more brighter bulbs realize this and are exposing the truth.
Be careful who you call fruitcake.
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 26, 2020, 02:53:33 AMZUCC420, you don't get it. No one is against research to find ways to get taller without surgery. But we have some not-so-bright-bulbs who rely on unproven techniques that are ineffective, leads to scams, and very dangerous.
I don't know if you're blind or something but that bodybuilder gives the impression that he's against it whenever he opens his fruitcakey mouth spewing illiterate unscientific ŝhite in this forum, no need to be his lackey and defend him when it's clearly unjustified in this case.
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 26, 2020, 02:53:33 AMBe careful who you call fruitcake.
I'll call anyone whatever the fũck I want matey. ALso I'm gonna repost what I've said coz u fũcken ruined it.
Quote from: Body Builder on October 25, 2020, 11:37:41 PMYou are free to believe in alternatives and live your life miserably for many years waiting for some miracle that will get you tall with a pill or injection or something like that.
That's just pure unadulterated rat ŝhit coming from this fruitcake....
Just cause some of us here would love to see a better, superior alternative to the contemporary barbaric elective that's currently going around at $100k with sum additional $$$ (another 50k) for emergency contingencies just to fking even have a 90% chance of undergoing the whole damn ordeal smoothly unscathed (since that's what the pros are charging) which is based on an almost 100 years old ancient science makes us crazy delusional lunatics best consigned to an asylum according to this fruitcake lmao!
I don't know about others but I'm only 22 years old and thus prudently can afford to wait at the very least 10 years for a superior alternative to emerge, based on tangible concrete evidence from my perusal of the current technological trajectory of the biological sciences which includes stem cells, bones and cartilages I can assuredly say we have the technology right now, currently available to treat short height but for obvious reasons won't get manifested because of the complete and utter bantherpiss ŝhitte of a culture/society in the west especially the US where most of these researches would've taken place.
My only hope is capitalism and tangentially related r&d development to height growth like stem cells, bioprinting, cartilage implantation all of which is feasible right now that'll usher in the secret to growing taller proportionally without any limits and also without harming anything in the human body basically recreating the growth spurt period while maintaining the unclosed growth plate however long someone desires.
Only luddites that doesn't even understand how science works let alone even have the mental capacity to appreciate it to any meaningful degree would deem my choice as being crazy/stupid/delusional or egregiously equate my foresight as being merely composed of blind faith in a miracle silver bullet in some god knows how long distant future.
Quote from: extremis on October 18, 2018, 03:27:07 AMThis thread is for the skeptics (one of whom is particularly egregious) on this board who believe that traditional distraction osteogenesis using an Ilizarov frame or magnetic nails is the only procedure we're likely to see for effective limb lengthening in our lifetime or within the next 20 (or whatever ridiculous, inflated number) years.
Those of you who have seen me post on this board before have most likely seen me say time and again that we're no further than 10 years away from a safer, more effective procedure that could allow for even more growth than distraction osteogenesis with much greater (if not total) retention of physical abilities, particularly athletic ability. The last time I discussed this on this board was a few months ago now (I haven't posted in a while), and I had one back-and-forth with what is possibly the most fervent skeptic on this board that terminated with that individual essentially dismissing my claims regarding the imminent creation of such a technique as a fantasy or product of hopeful delusions.
I responded to this by informing that poster that they were a scientific illiterate and do not understand the way scientific progress works, or the magnitude of the increase in the rate of scientific discovery and advancement in the information age. Well, being an enthusiast and hobbyist of several biomedical fields, I constantly keep myself up-to-date with recent scientific advancements and discoveries in those same fields. And, earlier this week while I was browsing my sources, I happened upon these very interesting morsels:
https://physicsworld.com/a/handheld-biopen-prints-human-cartilage/
QuoteHandheld biopen prints human cartilage
04 Oct 2018
A handheld “biopen” capable of 3D printing cartilage tissue could for the first time be used during surgery to treat cartilage injuries and osteoarthritus. The extrusion-based device, which prints live stem cells embedded in a hydrogel material, produces constructs that look and behave just like natural articular tissue (Biofabrication 10 045006).
“This is in stark contrast to conventional reparative cartilage made of fibrocartilage, which is very different in structure to physiological cartilage, inferior in quality and not durable,” say the researchers, a multidisciplinary team that includes surgeons, biologists, physicists and engineers. “Our technique and the scaffolds we are able to produce provide much hope for treating patients suffering from cartilage injuries and osteoarthritis.”
While some success has been reported for surgical treatments that exploit engineered cartilage tissue, existing procedures require two separate operations: one to remove the damaged tissue, and another to replace the tissue once it is repaired. What’s more, surgeons report a high failure rate – partly because pre-fabricated scaffolds might not perfectly match the defect, and partly because the implanted tissue is not similar enough to natural cartilage to survive for long inside the body.
Note that this is WITHOUT major attention being paid to the field of cartilage tissue engineering. Furthermore, this article actually serves as a follow-up to this other article:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biopen-speeds-up-stem-cell-repair/
QuoteBiopen speeds up stem-cell repair
20 Mar 2018
As 3D printing technology evolves and advances, we are getting ever closer to the goal of being able to implant 3D printed tissues inside the body. At present, 3D printed cells must first be cultivated and then allowed to grow into viable tissue – which normally takes a few days. But a new instrument, dubbed the biopen, could help to speed up this process. The biopen, developed by researchers in Australia, could allow surgeons to repair damaged bone and cartilage by “drawing” new cells directly onto bone during surgery and then filling in any damaged areas.
I've taken the liberty of bolding and underlining something particularly interesting about these two articles. Notice what it is? The second article, which is about the original release of the Biopen, was published on March 20th of this year, while the first one, which details successful forays into cartilage printing using the Biopen (and even upcoming attempts to surgically implant the tissue) was published this month, roughly 7 months later.
Then there's this:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181010105531.htm
QuoteWith today's technology, we can 3-D-print sculptures, mechanical parts, prosthetics, even guns and food. But a team of University of Utah biomedical engineers have developed a method to 3-D-print cells to produce human tissue such as ligaments and tendons, a process that will greatly improve a patient's recovery. A person with a badly damaged ligament, tendon, or ruptured disc could simply have new replacement tissue printed and ultimately implanted in the damaged area, according to a new paper published in the Journal of Tissue Engineering, Part C: Methods.
The paper, for the scientifically-inclined:
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ten.tec.2018.0184
So it's now possible to 3D print connective tissue such as ligaments and tendons, which are among the soft tissue that is distended and damaged by distraction osteogenesis (ultimately resulting in loss of physical ability). The paper was published on September 14th of this year. This again follows up on the Biopen article from months before, as well as several other research papers involving printed biological tissue that have been published throughout this year.
And again I repeat that all this progress comes without any special attention paid to the field of tissue engineering. This is a natural progression. So, as I've always said, there's nothing absurd about asserting that a non-crippling, safer, better alternative to distraction osteogenesis could be as close as 10 years away, probably more like 7 or 8 if height increase had as much impetus from the (overwhelmingly male) community of short statured people who want to be taller as androgenic alopecia gets from men/women who are balding or weight loss procedures get from overweight people.
Stuff like this is the reason why bullsh*t copes like "therapy" and "acceptance" (i.e. resignation) should NEVER be suggested as "solutions" to height dysphoria or any problems involving a person's height. The community ought to be encouraging short people who have experienced heightism and/or are otherwise unhappy with their height to make as much money as they possibly can so we can all come together and help FUND research like this, so that we can ALL have a solution that doesn't involve excruciating pain and risk of being permanently crippled a la unicorn from this board.
Quote from: ZUCC420 on October 26, 2020, 04:06:48 AMI don't know if you're blind or something but that bodybuilder gives the impression that he's against it whenever he opens his fruitcakey mouth spewing illiterate unscientific ŝhite in this forum, no need to be his lackey and defend him when it's clearly unjustified in this case.
The one who is spewing illiterate unscientific ŝhite in this forum is O_99, who is posting links from the LSJL that talks about stupid ŝhite like banging a hammer against your tibia like 600 times a day to elongate it. BodyBuilder and many other people are against that ŝhite, which is the part you don't get.
That LSJL also talks about squeezing a metal C-clamp around your bones, wrapping a tight rubber strap around your bones, and doing stretching exercises to get taller as it were a viable alternative to CLL.
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 26, 2020, 04:30:45 AMThe one who is spewing illiterate unscientific ŝhite in this forum is O_99, who is posting links from the LSJL that talks about stupid ŝhite like banging a hammer against your tibia like 600 times a day to elongate it. BodyBuilder and many other people are against that ŝhite, which is the part you don't get.
That LSJL also talks about squeezing a metal C-clamp around your bones, wrapping a tight rubber strap around your bones, and doing stretching exercises to get taller as it were a viable alternative to CLL.
It sounds like more dangerous than CLL 
If people are looking for this option to save money, I will try hard to understand them. However, if one is looking for this for the safer way than CLL, I will just say wow!!!
ZUCC420 - please post the research papers that support your claim that we have the technology right now? I know of no mouse models, or any model species experiments, let alone humans in which shows realistic potential for height growth.
Any technology after animal models would reauire phase trials which would take at least 5 years, most likely considerably longer. There would still remain the unknown long term side effects after that.
Theories in biosciences are very easy to generate and conceptually it is a very easy subject. What is difficult is predicting the efficacy and sequela of any treatment.
Costs of any such treatments will make contemporary technologies look cheap.
Quote from: ZUCC420 on October 26, 2020, 01:40:44 AMThat's just pure unadulterated rat ŝhit coming from this fruitcake....
Just cause some of us here would love to see a better, superior alternative to the contemporary barbaric elective that's currently going around at $100k with sum additional $$$ (another 50k) for emergency contingencies just to fking even have a 90% chance of undergoing the whole damn ordeal smoothly unscathed (since that's what the pros are charging) which is based on an almost 100 years old ancient science makes us crazy delusional lunatics best consigned to an asylum according to this fruitcake lmao!
I don't know about others but I'm only 22 years old and thus prudently can afford to wait at the very least 10 years for a superior alternative to emerge, based on tangible concrete evidence from my perusal of the current technological trajectory of the biological sciences which includes stem cells, bones and cartilages I can assuredly say we have the technology right now, currently available to treat short height but for obvious reasons won't get manifested because of the complete and utter bantherpiss ŝhitte of a culture/society in the west especially the US where most of these researches would've taken place.
My only hope is capitalism and tangentially related r&d development to height growth like stem cells, bioprinting, cartilage implantation all of which is feasible right now that'll usher in the secret to growing taller proportionally without any limits and also without harming anything in the human body basically recreating the growth spurt period while maintaining the unclosed growth plate however long someone desires.
Only luddites that doesn't even understand how science works let alone even have the mental capacity to appreciate it to any meaningful degree would deem my choice as being crazy/stupid/delusional or egregiously equate my foresight as being merely composed of blind faith in a miracle silver bullet in some god knows how long distant future.
Note that this is WITHOUT major attention being paid to the field of cartilage tissue engineering. Furthermore, this article actually serves as a follow-up to this other article:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biopen-speeds-up-stem-cell-repair/
I've taken the liberty of bolding and underlining something particularly interesting about these two articles. Notice what it is? The second article, which is about the original release of the Biopen, was published on March 20th of this year, while the first one, which details successful forays into cartilage printing using the Biopen (and even upcoming attempts to surgically implant the tissue) was published this month, roughly 7 months later.
Then there's this:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181010105531.htm
The paper, for the scientifically-inclined:
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ten.tec.2018.0184
So it's now possible to 3D print connective tissue such as ligaments and tendons, which are among the soft tissue that is distended and damaged by distraction osteogenesis (ultimately resulting in loss of physical ability). The paper was published on September 14th of this year. This again follows up on the Biopen article from months before, as well as several other research papers involving printed biological tissue that have been published throughout this year.
And again I repeat that all this progress comes without any special attention paid to the field of tissue engineering. This is a natural progression. So, as I've always said, there's nothing absurd about asserting that a non-crippling, safer, better alternative to distraction osteogenesis could be as close as 10 years away, probably more like 7 or 8 if height increase had as much impetus from the (overwhelmingly male) community of short statured people who want to be taller as androgenic alopecia gets from men/women who are balding or weight loss procedures get from overweight people.
Stuff like this is the reason why bullsh*t copes like "therapy" and "acceptance" (i.e. resignation) should NEVER be suggested as "solutions" to height dysphoria or any problems involving a person's height. The community ought to be encouraging short people who have experienced heightism and/or are otherwise unhappy with their height to make as much money as they possibly can so we can all come together and help FUND research like this, so that we can ALL have a solution that doesn't involve excruciating pain and risk of being permanently crippled a la unicorn from this board.
If your only hope is capitalism then you are a pure idiot only for that. Because everything in capitalism is for the profit. So even if they find an easy alternative for LL it will be much more expensive because it would be much easier/safer. So thinking that capitalism will invent something safer than LL and cheaper too (because you mentioned money as a drawback of LL) is a joke.
So you are a 22yo kid with big mouth and delusions. Nothing will change in LL in 10 years because we are not even close to something else and 10years are too few for doing something so big like altering the height of adults without a surgery. The best it happened since 50s when LL was invented (in communism btw!) was magnetic nails on 2011.
So, 60 years for something that still needs surgery and it is more invasive than Ilizarov (but much better in terms of having everything secret).
So stupid little kid, you can wait as much as you want. You can even hammer your head to maybe become taller. But the truth is that we don't have any real alternative to LL, even in an experimental stage, so stop saying delusional bs and insulting people that did LL (I did it on your age btw and at that years till your 40s are the height important, not when you are middle aged) because they weren't delusional cowards but wanted to get rid of their short height once and for all.
Stryder spoke to you much better than he should, like I did on the first time, but leting a kid insulting me by saying delusional bs and criticize me as a fruitcake is too much for a second time.
So, hammer your bones as much as you want or waitnfor injections to become 6ft in a few days. Till then see your life passing by and lose some of your best years being miserable and almost invisible to the opposite gender waiting for miracles. It is your choice.
But you are too little to judge an LLer of doing whatever it took to get rid of his short stature. And trust me, most of us are so happy with our choice and that choice made us much better persons and especially made our characters much harder. Because after you doing something that hard to make your life better (or even to make you accept yourself better) then nothing can stop you to achieve your dreams.
LL is trully lifechanging in so many ways that naive kids like you who want to become taller just by a pill or an injection will neven understand.
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 25, 2020, 05:26:00 PMI think you're in the wrong discussion forum, O_99. This is about limb lengthening surgery.
Oh, the (not bright bulb at all) replied.
Quote from: O_99 on October 25, 2020, 02:21:38 PMIt says "Limb Lengthening Forum" not "Limb Lengthening Surgery Forum".
Let me put it this way; If a non/less invasive method to become taller appears, for example with stem cell therapy/minimally invasive laser osteoctomy or something and clinics start offering the procedure, do you think anyone here will talk about the traditional nail-implant-painful-risky-permanently-damaging lengthening surgery?
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 25, 2020, 05:26:00 PMYour signature says "Looking for an alternative".
Ha!
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 25, 2020, 05:26:00 PMYour posts are about advocating very unlikely alternative limb lengthening speculations without surgery that have no scientific evidence or proof, and at best will take at least a few decades to even determine if it is somewhat feasible.
Do you have a magic crystall ball and can see the future?
No.
Making predictions about the future is silly, especially when it comes to scientific advancements.
Quote from: Stryder2021 on October 25, 2020, 05:26:00 PMYou should just stay with that LSJL.info website, that's where you belong.
Even if this forum was about Limb Lengthening Surgery, the question posted is about non-invasive methods and categorized <Off-Topic> sub-board. So if you don't like this type of discussions you can ignore them and stay out. Stick with your Stryde nail and 2021. No one really cares.
Quote from: Body Builder on October 25, 2020, 05:48:50 PMSo you don't know if lsjlb works?
Well done, you kind of got it after I have written it 11 times. Progress.
You can search for the scientific facts/principles on which this method is based (microfractures, like LIPUS technology, etc). I don't have to provide them because I'm not claiming that it works.
I'm not telling anyone to do LSJL, I shared the links, people here are not kids, they can decide themselves if they're going to try it out or no. Saying it's more dangerous than the surgery is ridiculous.
Quote from: Body Builder on October 25, 2020, 05:48:50 PMThat means you don't have the iq level to understand that by hiting your bone with a hammer you can't get taller.
This is funny. You've made predicitions about the future for LLS alternatives like you're the Master of Medicine and Biology, have claimed that modern foods cause men to have smaller frames and women less curves, many of your posts are full of ignorance and close mindedness (as many people have told you in the past too), and you're talking about IQs? Is this a joke or what?
The rest of your post is a troll-sillyness mix (not that the others were notable) and is not worth paying attention too.
Quote from: O_99 on October 26, 2020, 09:40:54 AMOh, the (not bright bulb at all) replied.
Ha!
Do you have a magic crystall ball and can see the future?
No.
Making predictions about the future is silly, especially when it comes to scientific advancements.
Even if this forum was about Limb Lengthening Surgery, the question posted is about non-invasive methods and categorized <Off-Topic> sub-board. So if you don't like this type of discussions you can ignore them and stay out. Stick with your Stryde nail and 2021. No one really cares.
Well done, you kind of got it after I have written it 11 times. Progress.
You can search for the scientific facts/principles on which this method is based (microfractures, like LIPUS technology, etc). I don't have to provide them because I'm not claiming that it works.
I'm not telling anyone to do LSJL, I shared the links, people here are not kids, they can decide themselves if they're going to try it out or no. Saying it's more dangerous than the surgery is ridiculous.
This is funny. You've made predicitions about the future for LLS alternatives like you're the Master of Medicine and Biology, have claimed that modern foods cause men to have smaller frames and women less curves, many of your posts are full of ignorance and close mindedness (as many people have told you in the past too), and you're talking about IQs? Is this a joke or what?
The rest of your post is a troll-sillyness mix (not that the others were notable) and is not worth paying attention too.
So lsjbl bl is based on science? Ok, thats what I wanted to hear, that you don't know if it works or not.
Any mentally capable person would have known that hammering your bone won't make you taller, low iq naives like you however are not sure and they are willing to hammer themselves to see if it works or not.
Next step to drawn under the water with a huge rock for 1 hour to see if they'll breathe like a fish or not.
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